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June 20, 2018, 02:24:20 PM |
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Well, at least somebody is trying to hold "The bottom" up... . (Mic post some good pic)  Confirmed. Bottom is being held up.  Sometimes I feel like my biggest contribution to this thread is butt pictures, but I guess that's good enough. We are really in the bottom indeed! i like what's on the inner side loool XD. really looking forward to see Bitcoin back again at it's 10k mark atleast.
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"In a nutshell, the network works like a distributed
timestamp server, stamping the first transaction to spend a coin. It
takes advantage of the nature of information being easy to spread but
hard to stifle." -- Satoshi
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infofront (OP)
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June 20, 2018, 02:26:12 PM |
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Bitcoin started a divergence with its fair value in March. It is currently listed as having a Price to Earnings equivalent of 6.78.  How is the fair value calculated?
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wayna
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June 20, 2018, 02:39:36 PM |
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No, Bitcoin Won't Use Up All The World's EnergyBitcoin using too much energy is thus pure FUD as it originates in the sectors that will lose more or be disrupted most by the blockchain, the latest being the Bank for International Settlements (BIS), a core piece of the global banking infrastructure. Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies also potentially replace gold as an international asset of last resort and it is said the energy expended raping the earth for the precious gold monetary relic is five times that expended on bitcoin. Even if it was a 1:1, the replacement of gold by bitcoin would surely be an environmental good. https://www.forbes.com/sites/investor/2018/06/18/no-bitcoin-wont-use-up-all-the-worlds-energy/ Interesting point here. I was wondering how much the current bank system demands in terms of energy consumption. It's true that the bank system offers a lot of services but do we really need all this stuff? Considering ATMs, servers, offices, premises and so on, I would say running the Bitcoin system is not that bad. It's also interesting the fact associated with the environmental exploitation of metals that are linked with the old system. I wouldn't say Bitcoin system is the final solution to energy problems but, c'mon, the current money system definitely isn't more efficient than the crypto's one. Environmentalists point the finger against Bitcoin while they still use and benefit from the bank system. I mean, the real problem lays at the base, certainly not at the blockchain technology. Has anyone already posted this? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TIma781rLFjr-dqeJmL2KN06OpoRkSsj/viewIt's 2014 research so some numbers should be adjusted, but still ps it's also the source of this image that is going around lately on social networks and stuff  Thank you for posting this resource. I will check it out. One day I read an article about a pro-environment guy (I have nothing against this) claiming the Bitcoin infrastructure would have been eager of energy, a total waste of resources. Totally wrong or at least unfair considering environmental issues existed even before cryptos and everything nowadays runs on the Internet infrastructure.
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June 20, 2018, 02:41:31 PM |
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Bitcoin
Starting from mined precious metals
Metals to produce valuable technology
Technology to utilize energy and peer to peer networks
Networks layered with mathematics to decentralize and share information
Information across vast distances and industry
Bringing real currency - Bitcoin, to the world
Keep your dollar
That was the worst attempt at pumping shitcoins I've ever seen. You probably made the price go down typing that.
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wayna
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June 20, 2018, 02:45:06 PM |
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Well, at least somebody is trying to hold "The bottom" up... . (Mic post some good pic)  Confirmed. Bottom is being held up.  Sometimes I feel like my biggest contribution to this thread is butt pictures, but I guess that's good enough. We are really in the bottom indeed! i like what's on the inner side loool XD. really looking forward to see Bitcoin back again at it's 10k mark atleast. That's interesting... I mean not only the image  How would you say that we have already reached the bottom?
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June 20, 2018, 02:51:44 PM |
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Well, at least somebody is trying to hold "The bottom" up... . (Mic post some good pic)  Confirmed. Bottom is being held up.  Sometimes I feel like my biggest contribution to this thread is butt pictures, but I guess that's good enough. We are really in the bottom indeed! i like what's on the inner side loool XD. really looking forward to see Bitcoin back again at it's 10k mark atleast. That's interesting... I mean not only the image  How would you say that we have already reached the bottom? Just look at the picture. No, really, after staring at it for a while, you will understand we have surely found THE bottom.
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realr0ach
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June 20, 2018, 02:59:31 PM |
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You're claiming an imaginary, valueless token has a fair market value? And you're not only claiming that for bitcoin, but all 7000 altcoins ever created on that page, pretty much all of which will likely go to $0 followed by bitcoin itself? You might want to re-examine your methodology. How could something that doesn't even exist except in people's imaginations be considered to have a "fair market value"? The fair market value of anything based on artificial scarcity is obviously zero. Bitcoin is a withered husk of sunk cost fallacy. The tokens don't actually have some sort of intrinsic worth. The PE ratio is supposed to be for an actual business. A business is supposed to turn a profit for it's owners, but bitcoin's self adjusted mining is designed to trend towards break even in the aggregate. You're not a shareholder by holding one of the coins either because it doesn't grant you power over anything. It's like buying a coupon to a roller coaster that may or may not exist tomorrow. The words "PE Ratio" and "fair market value" do not apply to bitcoin at all.
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June 20, 2018, 03:05:49 PM |
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You're claiming an imaginary, valueless token has a fair market value? And you're not only claiming that for bitcoin, but all 7000 altcoins ever created on that page, pretty much all of which will likely go to $0 followed by bitcoin itself? You might want to re-examine your methodology. How could something that doesn't even exist except in people's imaginations be considered to have a "fair market value"? The fair market value of anything based on artificial scarcity is obviously zero. Bitcoin is a withered husk of sunk cost fallacy. The tokens don't actually have some sort of intrinsic worth. The PE ratio is supposed to be for an actual business. A business is supposed to turn a profit for it's owners, but bitcoin's self adjusted mining is designed to trend towards break even in the aggregate. You're not a shareholder by holding one of the coins either because it doesn't grant you power over anything. It's like buying a coupon to a roller coaster that may or may not exist tomorrow. The words "PE Ratio" and "fair market value" do not apply to bitcoin at all. Obviously you need to improve your financial education regarding the theory of currencies. I'd recommend some books, but it may be easier to start here: https://www.coinfairvalue.com/reference/ Good luck 
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June 20, 2018, 03:09:29 PM |
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Don't feed the trolls, please.
To be honest, most of us have been there, done that, but when a relative newcomer starts quoting roach, we still feel a word of warning might help.
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June 20, 2018, 03:19:24 PM |
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Obviously you need to improve your financial education regarding the theory of currencies. I'd recommend some books, but it may be easier to start here: https://www.coinfairvalue.com/reference/ Good luck  Unfortunately in this world now the only thing that counts is Perceived value. 
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June 20, 2018, 03:25:46 PM |
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You're claiming an imaginary, valueless token has a fair market value? And you're not only claiming that for bitcoin, but all 7000 altcoins ever created on that page, pretty much all of which will likely go to $0 followed by bitcoin itself? You might want to re-examine your methodology. How could something that doesn't even exist except in people's imaginations be considered to have a "fair market value"? The fair market value of anything based on artificial scarcity is obviously zero. Bitcoin is a withered husk of sunk cost fallacy. The tokens don't actually have some sort of intrinsic worth. The PE ratio is supposed to be for an actual business. A business is supposed to turn a profit for it's owners, but bitcoin's self adjusted mining is designed to trend towards break even in the aggregate. You're not a shareholder by holding one of the coins either because it doesn't grant you power over anything. It's like buying a coupon to a roller coaster that may or may not exist tomorrow. The words "PE Ratio" and "fair market value" do not apply to bitcoin at all. Obviously you need to improve your financial education regarding the theory of currencies. I'd recommend some books, but it may be easier to start here: https://www.coinfairvalue.com/reference/ Good luck  I think you need to improve your financial education when you don't understand the fair market value of an imaginary token based on artificial scarcity is zero. Especially when it's value is supposed to be derived from "decentralization", yet it's designed to centralize, thus having zero fundamentals on top of that.
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1/21000000 , the only math you need to know
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June 20, 2018, 03:26:52 PM |
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It sure will be nice when we get rolling again and the perpetrators of these little bartlets are completely lost in the noise.
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June 20, 2018, 03:46:19 PM |
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I went out with one of the Bartlett girls a long time back. She too was an entirely unpredictable sort - up one minute, down the next. So yes let's move swiftly on.
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June 20, 2018, 03:47:52 PM |
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up one minute, down the next.

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June 20, 2018, 04:04:47 PM |
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Good morning. 1h  D  #cryptouplift
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June 20, 2018, 04:29:53 PM |
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Roach, how come that page is requesting a payment of BTC to save it instead of asking you to post some physical silver?
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fabiorem
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June 20, 2018, 04:32:06 PM |
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Well, at least somebody is trying to hold "The bottom" up... . (Mic post some good pic)  Confirmed. Bottom is being held up.  Sometimes I feel like my biggest contribution to this thread is butt pictures, but I guess that's good enough. Actually, this is the best post in this thread, in the last two weeks.
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