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Could the $400 Million Liquidation have been an elaborate whale trick to create synthetic Put option for 0 premium abusing OkEX socialized loss and liquidation system ?

Imagine this :

• With one account, accumulate little by little a large long position, filling the asks of multiple of your own other accounts in order to stay discreet on the leaderboard. You are then hedged with both Long and Short positions at the exact same price.
• Once you are big enough, push the leverage to the max on the one big position by withdrawing BTC and transfering them to your hedge short accounts.
• Eventually, the over-leveraged big position get liquidated on next significant move down. Obviously since the position is so big, the order at bankruptcy price stays unfilled, especially since when BTC dumps, it dumps fast.
• Starting from there, you are left with your accounts on short position. Two things can happen :
   * The price go back up to your liquidation wall. Then before it gets eaten, you buy into it with your shorts. You then exit all your positions at breakeven (minus transaction fees) since the profit from your short is then at the same price than your bankruptcy price on your long.
   * The price go down : that's when it gets interesting. Your short keep giving you profit while the loss you were supposed to have with your long hedge is paid with socialized loss (since you can't lose more than what you have on one account) in the form on an unfilled liquidation, and the difference between the liquidation price and the settlement price being paid by socializing losses/insurance funds.

So in short, if someone did this, he would profit as long as BTC goes below 8020 (the wall's liquidation price), and if BTC goes over that he loses 0 (only transaction fees).

So basically a put option, except if someone really did this, he would have paid 0 premium for them.

Am I being conspirationist here or could this have been possible ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/93k2h9/could_the_400_million_liquidation_have_been_an


Yeah we know how this works, we know who works it too, you would also need a team of shills to assist you in your industry

they will not see what is going to happen until it is on their doorstep

do not look behind you, thats how close it is  Grin


I imagine for these corrupt schmucks its like that trapped feeling you get when you think should i run or will that expose me

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Yes? What did this gentleman do?
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 I'm guessing he lost his driver's licence... Possibly for DUI.
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Could the $400 Million Liquidation have been an elaborate whale trick to create synthetic Put option for 0 premium abusing OkEX socialized loss and liquidation system ?
Imagine this :
• With one account, accumulate little by little a large long position, filling the asks of multiple of your own other accounts in order to stay discreet on the leaderboard. You are then hedged with both Long and Short positions at the exact same price.
• Once you are big enough, push the leverage to the max on the one big position by withdrawing BTC and transfering them to your hedge short accounts.
• Eventually, the over-leveraged big position get liquidated on next significant move down. Obviously since the position is so big, the order at bankruptcy price stays unfilled, especially since when BTC dumps, it dumps fast.
• Starting from there, you are left with your accounts on short position. Two things can happen :
   * The price go back up to your liquidation wall. Then before it gets eaten, you buy into it with your shorts. You then exit all your positions at breakeven (minus transaction fees) since the profit from your short is then at the same price than your bankruptcy price on your long.
   * The price go down : that's when it gets interesting. Your short keep giving you profit while the loss you were supposed to have with your long hedge is paid with socialized loss (since you can't lose more than what you have on one account) in the form on an unfilled liquidation, and the difference between the liquidation price and the settlement price being paid by socializing losses/insurance funds.
So in short, if someone did this, he would profit as long as BTC goes below 8020 (the wall's liquidation price), and if BTC goes over that he loses 0 (only transaction fees).
So basically a put option, except if someone really did this, he would have paid 0 premium for them.
Am I being conspirationist here or could this have been possible ?
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/93k2h9/could_the_400_million_liquidation_have_been_an
Yeah we know how this works, we know who works it too, you would also need a team of shills to assist you in your industry
they will not see what is going to happen until it is on their doorstep
do not look behind you, thats how close it is  Grin

I imagine for these corrupt schmucks its like that trapped feeling you get when you think should i run or will that expose me


Could rock bitcoin markets any thoughts?

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 I'm guessing he lost his driver's licence... Possibly for DUI.
Looks to me like he is saluting the flag.
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It's ludicrous how many companies still rely on SMS as a security layer. It's almost as bad as when you're asked to provide your D.O.B. as a login credential, like that isn't a matter of public record.
There are ridiculous security practices all over the place.  Using regular signatures for official documents, or for showing you accepted a packet from a delivery guy (honestly, how is he going to know if you doodle down a wrong signature?), the use of credit cards in the US, etc. .
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August 01, 2018, 10:44:59 PM
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As bitcoin price tumbles to extreme low prices that pretty much prove the central bankers right, this is how I spend my evenings.

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Could the $400 Million Liquidation have been an elaborate whale trick to create synthetic Put option for 0 premium abusing OkEX socialized loss and liquidation system ?
Imagine this :
• With one account, accumulate little by little a large long position, filling the asks of multiple of your own other accounts in order to stay discreet on the leaderboard. You are then hedged with both Long and Short positions at the exact same price.
~some conspiracy~
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/93k2h9/could_the_400_million_liquidation_have_been_an
~some conspiracy~
Could rock bitcoin markets any thoughts?


Do we get to see who was working with Star Xu

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/reddit-announces-data-breach-threatens-anonymity-users-n896686?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma
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Uh, yeah, if you want to be anonymous you don't use your real email addy!
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August 02, 2018, 12:38:14 AM

If I was a big risk taker I'd go all in bcash right now, then dump when Jbear shows up.  Tongue

dump. dump now.

...too early, you're not riled up enough. You will be full of blocksize debate right at the top. Smiley

In order to debate blocksize, somebody has got to be the topic starter. If it has not become clear to you by now, I shall state it plainly. Since flipping the switch about a year ago, I never initiate such conversations within this thread. I only pick up the mantle when I see obvious false claims.

Of course, you are the good guy.  You are here merely defending misinformation about bcash.

What a bunch of bullshit.  As if your supposed non-initiation of the topic (assuming it were true), would be justified in your motivation to participation in this thread to defend 1) off-topic conversations and 2) an actual ongoing attack on bitcoin...

Give me a fucking break...

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August 02, 2018, 01:53:57 AM

You know sentiment is bad when conversation grinds to a halt in this thread. Was everyone hoping for a rocket strait to the moon ever since 6200? Seems like this kind of a pull back is exactly what one would expect even if a bull market did begin around July 13th, no?
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 I'm guessing he lost his driver's licence... Possibly for DUI.
Looks to me like he is saluting the flag.

 Which flag does the "Supreme White Alliance" salute?
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August 02, 2018, 02:28:51 AM

Mueller is draining the swamp by going after corrupt Democrats.  Gotta catch em all.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pawz5z/robert-mueller-is-going-after-shady-democrats-now-too
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Probably voted for Obama and Hillary because they promised him free stuff.
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 I'm guessing he lost his driver's licence... Possibly for DUI.
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August 02, 2018, 03:10:10 AM

As bitcoin price tumbles to extreme low prices that pretty much prove the central bankers right, this is how I spend my evenings.



You're so funny
I think this is the common situation of many people current.
But I still believe in the future of blockchain technology and future BTC will grow again.
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First Lightning Network exchange live on testnet Smiley

https://sparkswap.com/
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First Lightning Network exchange live on testnet Smiley

https://sparkswap.com/

This is the tech that will change everything.
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First Lightning Network exchange live on testnet Smiley

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That is pretty neat.
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First Lightning Network exchange live on testnet Smiley

https://sparkswap.com/

Check. Your move legacy financial system.

https://youtu.be/3PzKzk_T-Ck

But bitcoins too volatile, it will never supplant the financial system. HA! Just wait until normies can buy tokens that represent anything they want (such as a broad basket of commodities) and pay anyone in the world with their asset because the lightning network will be able to handle swapping over to bitcoin and back into the recipients asset of choice in real time at the moment of payment while the wallet handles all of that automatically in the background! AHAHA the world is already ours, just not yet.
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