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Question: How much of your corn do you plan on cashing out in the next massive bull run?
None - 19 (19.8%)
1-10% - 11 (11.5%)
11-20% - 12 (12.5%)
21-30% - 15 (15.6%)
31-40% - 4 (4.2%)
41-50% - 10 (10.4%)
51-60% - 7 (7.3%)
61-70% - 5 (5.2%)
71-80% - 3 (3.1%)
81-90% - 2 (2.1%)
91-99% - 0 (0%)
100% - 8 (8.3%)
Total Voters: 96

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July 23, 2018, 10:06:19 PM

Just saw AGAIN the Carlos matos bitconeeeeect.... how funny was that Guy  Roll Eyes  Grin
funny but scammy. anyway he's still about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D14e-ZyhDa4 Day 6 Of My 40 Day Water Fasting Journey
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July 23, 2018, 10:09:14 PM

I spent the week going back through all of my btc-e transactions, the delivered coins that they sent me with e-mail confirmation. I got a screenshot of my wallet with the transaction plus signed a message with each currency they sent me.

Sent it all to the customer service folks at WEX. Received an e-mail that they were looking into it. It's only been a year.

Hopefully I can log in and pull off my NMC and be done with it. Maybe contribute to some NMC development.

Deposits working flawless Withdrawals disabled, sound familiar?
This Bear season is officially finished when the news hit the oldest exchange is lost once again.


Anyway on the positive development since  bitcoin asic's arrived (January 2013) hashrate grew much faster then price.



From where does this graph come?   It looks pretty interesting to juxtapose hashrate and BTC price, and probably there are other sites that compile similar data and show similar trend lines.
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July 23, 2018, 10:13:35 PM

Syscoin Going crazy again ?  Shocked  Roll Eyes
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July 23, 2018, 10:17:12 PM

Syscoin Going crazy again ?  Shocked  Roll Eyes

Most alts are being bled to death. This is usually a bad sign.
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July 23, 2018, 10:35:48 PM

Syscoin Going crazy again ?  Shocked  Roll Eyes

Most alts are being bled to death. This is usually a bad sign.
Syscoin to 96btc again? Roll Eyes

Which exchange will it show up for its amount now?
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-22/eu-parliament-study-central-bank-digital-currencies-will-reshape-competition-crypto

Private digital currencies are defined separately from central bank-issued digital currencies (CBDC), noting that the CBDCs differ by being based on a “conventional bilateral settlement with a trusted central party.”

A perhaps strange part of this article is that there is a presumption that bringing centralization to the table, will bring credibility to the crypto space - and the fact of the matter is that the main feature (rather than a bug) remains that bitcoin brings a lack of centralization, and therefore a lack of centralization is bitcoin's strength, rather than weakness.  Anyhow, some folks are likely to fall for this poor and diverted framing of the "problem" with crypto and to buy into centralized coins rather than into bitcoin, which will allow bitcoin's price to remain an actual good value, but only to those folks who really recognize the significant paradigm changing differentiating point of bitcoin.
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July 23, 2018, 10:51:46 PM
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The question is why would it ever drop to 0. Why would anyone ever let that happen? If they wont, which it is reasonable to assume that they wont, then wont this thing grow forever? What does this mean? Has someone figured out how to create a dooms day device built on game theory and censorship resistant computing? Even if it is not a dooms day device is this hinting at the idea that maybe game theory based dooms day devices could be created on block chains? This seems like a bigger thing than the game it's self.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-22/eu-parliament-study-central-bank-digital-currencies-will-reshape-competition-crypto

Private digital currencies are defined separately from central bank-issued digital currencies (CBDC), noting that the CBDCs differ by being based on a “conventional bilateral settlement with a trusted central party.”

A perhaps strange part of this article is that there is a presumption that bringing centralization to the table, will bring credibility to the crypto space - and the fact of the matter is that the main feature (rather than a bug) remains that bitcoin brings a lack of centralization, and therefore a lack of centralization is bitcoin's strength, rather than weakness.  Anyhow, some folks are likely to fall for this poor and diverted framing of the "problem" with crypto and to buy into centralized coins rather than into bitcoin, which will allow bitcoin's price to remain an actual good value, but only to those folks who really recognize the significant paradigm changing differentiating point of bitcoin.

Actually as we post here trump is attacking the federal reserve for starting to raise interest rates and inflation, who know how many times, over the last 100 years and always after giving everyone cheap credit to create bubbles.


When people see it
BOOOOOOOM!!! Exposed  Cool Cool Cool Cool
and their central controlled crypto

This is what gives bitcoin its strength, value and eventual world dominance

Web 3.0 will create the regulation by the people for the people

decentralized platforms overtaking the world

already fully underway

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The question is why would it ever drop to 0. Why would anyone ever let that happen? If they wont, which it is reasonable to assume that they wont, then wont this thing grow forever? What does this mean? Has someone figured out how to create a dooms day device built on game theory and censorship resistant computing? Even if it is not a dooms day device is this hinting at the idea that maybe game theory based dooms day devices could be created on block chains? This seems like a bigger thing than the game it's self.

Meh. I see a giant bailout in the making.
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July 23, 2018, 10:58:03 PM

The question is why would it ever drop to 0. Why would anyone ever let that happen? If they wont, which it is reasonable to assume that they wont, then wont this thing grow forever?


If the almighty State-god can do that... printing money without any real value (and anchored in debt), and nobody complains about it (and some even praises it, in some cases), then cryptocurrencies can do the same, a thousand times over, and nobody will be able to complain as well.

Morality is made by example.
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July 23, 2018, 11:03:04 PM


The question is why would it ever drop to 0. Why would anyone ever let that happen? If they wont, which it is reasonable to assume that they wont, then wont this thing grow forever? What does this mean? Has someone figured out how to create a dooms day device built on game theory and censorship resistant computing? Even if it is not a dooms day device is this hinting at the idea that maybe game theory based dooms day devices could be created on block chains? This seems like a bigger thing than the game it's self.

Meh. I see a giant bailout in the making.

It is a totally fun idea but it’s also the economic equivalent of trying to break the second law of thermodynamics (ie not going to happen).

Your ROI on buying a later key will shrink to close to zero. It then becomes a game of chicken with the pot. People will get sick of not achieving a return on their investment and progressively give up. Others will get DDOSed and attacked. Mistakes will be made.  Eventually someone will win.  
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Your ROI on buying a later key will shrink to close to zero. It then becomes a game of chicken with the pot. People will get sick of not achieving a return on their investment and progressively give up. Others will get DDOSed and attacked. Mistakes will be made.  Eventually someone will win.  

But what if you wanted to specifically tailor the rules for the purposes of creating a black hole that would never die? What if you wanted to make weaponized game theory based on block-chain scripts? What if your motives were deleterious and your technique refined?
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July 23, 2018, 11:26:22 PM

What if your motives were deleterious and your technique refined?

What do you mean, "if"?
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What if your motives were deleterious and your technique refined?

What do you mean, "if"?

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July 24, 2018, 12:06:45 AM

Bcash on fire,

bcashers running around with head on fire

bcash being dumped

Alex Jones calls out Roger Ver

 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Yeah Roger bullshit getting called out, going ballistic

Roger Ver on Alex Jones (Super Funny!!!!)
https://youtu.be/UeGhG3Z_tsc?t=1140

That clip is more than 6 months old from February, and just to be more clear, a caller was attempting to call out Roger Ver, and Alex was quite confused about the whole situation in which it seemed that he (Alex) was getting Roger on his program to talk about bitcoin, and Roger got caught up in internal BTC politics and spent time attempting to pump Bcash and to denigrate bitcoin and to get Alex caught up into much more internal politics than Alex was prepared for.
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July 24, 2018, 12:13:28 AM

Eth at 0.058 is looking a bit limp wristed.  
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July 24, 2018, 12:43:34 AM

Eth at 0.058 is looking a bit limp wristed.  

I think ethereum and the rest of the alts are going to be in a bear market for awhile and will not follow the Bitcoin rocket this time.
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None of the major alts have ever endured a full crypto winter.  Even ETH launched at the bottom of the crypto winter and was straight uphill from there. Undoubtedly this has been a learning experience for the Masters of the Altiverse.  
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The question is why would it ever drop to 0. Why would anyone ever let that happen? If they wont, which it is reasonable to assume that they wont, then wont this thing grow forever? What does this mean? Has someone figured out how to create a dooms day device built on game theory and censorship resistant computing? Even if it is not a dooms day device is this hinting at the idea that maybe game theory based dooms day devices could be created on block chains? This seems like a bigger thing than the game it's self.

Meh. I see a giant bailout in the making.

It is a totally fun idea but it’s also the economic equivalent of trying to break the second law of thermodynamics (ie not going to happen).

Your ROI on buying a later key will shrink to close to zero. It then becomes a game of chicken with the pot. People will get sick of not achieving a return on their investment and progressively give up. Others will get DDOSed and attacked. Mistakes will be made.  Eventually someone will win.  

This is somewhat similar to some e-commerce sites that have a very low price for an item "say $1 for a $1000 TV". You "bid" $1 and if nobody else bids in a set amount of time you get the TV. But if someone else bids $2 before the timer runs out then you don't get the TV. Then $3, $4...etc. Eventually someone wins the TV for $50. Then they advertise the fact that someone just bought a fancy TV for "just $50!". The reality being that they made a whole lot more than $1,000 on that TV from the amount of bids.
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