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July 26, 2018, 09:14:18 PM

The SEC gave a roadmap for how they would accept a rule change:

"existing or newly created bitcoin futures markets may achieve significant size, and an ETP listing exchange may be able to
demonstrate in a proposed rule change that it will be able to address the risk of fraud and
manipulation by sharing surveillance information with a regulated market of significant size
related to bitcoin, as well as, where appropriate, with the spot markets underlying relevant
bitcoin derivatives. Should these circumstances develop, or conditions otherwise change in a
manner that affects the Exchange Act analysis, the Commission would then have the opportunity
to consider whether a bitcoin ETP would be consistent with the requirements of the
Exchange Act."
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Have skimmed at 200 mph.  Permanent disallowance of Winklevoss trust trading.  Assume this is shooting down the Winkle ETF?


Edit:  now I read the tweet.  Today is obviously do things the hard way day.

Let’s see if $8k is hot air


Whee $140 down in the time it took me to write that sentence
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July 26, 2018, 09:23:07 PM


What happened with the SEC i thought it was all in motion to announce close to the 10th August

What the hell am I missing.

This is frustrating.   Huh Huh Huh

Try to play the game it does not work. Any help.
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July 26, 2018, 09:26:33 PM

Don’t believe the hype.  It was never going to happen.

Buying opportunity of a lifetime coming.  Patience. 
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What happened with the SEC i thought it was all in motion to announce close to the 10th August

What the hell am I missing.

This is frustrating.   Huh Huh Huh

Try to play the game it does not work. Any help.
This is a different etf than the one we were all talking about.
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Don’t believe the hype.  It was never going to happen.

Buying opportunity of a lifetime coming.  Patience.  
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July 26, 2018, 09:34:51 PM

https://www.sec.gov/rules/other/2018/34-83723.pdf
full excuses here. have not read. moving some stops lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/91z04r/daily_discussion_thursday_july_26_2018/e33dchi/

summary there. none of them are gonna pass.
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July 26, 2018, 09:37:56 PM

Bbut... but Anon, it's like when you want a car engine to 'scale' to higher horsepower and speed, the most straightforward way is to simply add more cylinders!  V32 engines for everyone so we can get places faster, amiright?  /s

Stupid analogy is stupid.

If you want a transportation analogy, a closer analog would be passenger demand for a certain train route exceeding capacity solved by adding more passenger cars to the train.

Still a stupid analogy, but an order of magnitude closer to the situation at hand.
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https://www.sec.gov/rules/other/2018/34-83723.pdf
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July 26, 2018, 09:39:19 PM


It's like abracadabra. You have to say eeeteee-eff and have magical powers. Otherwise it's just nonsense.
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@wekkel ..., your dutch? And let iT be unavoidable ... Thats total fine for me  Grin
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July 26, 2018, 09:46:59 PM

Spoofy defeated the SEC Cool


Please place your altcoins in the receptacle provided.
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Wait actually the last ETF denial lead to a huge run-up on the altcoins, so umm...
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Wow! In case you didn't notice, Wekkel have just sent you *50* Merits. That's bullish as fuck! Smiley

What do that news say?

P.S.: It looks like it is something like this:


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'Bitcoin with value of 100,000 euros inevitable'
Yesterday, 4:30 PM in NEWS

The bitcoin will get a value of one tonne. That says Mike Hutting, owner of BTC Direct, in the weekly crypto update. Although there is also another, slightly less positive scenario possible for the Bitcoin.

- i was Just looking in This guess list and saw much more *merit* a number i thought there was a mistake
BUT no indeed wekkel sended *50* thx....So got Some Smerit ammo with it  Grin

- Yes indeed they Where talking positive,  something like that,  and that the only less positive is what we already know .... goverment attack but they also say like almost impossible.....,and if When the tech would fail whats also not seems to be happening any day soon.....
(They also have a platform talking about how Many more new accounts etc much more new peoples wanna get involved etc ....)

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I agree. It would require a 'bureaucratic institution" to 'stamp' BTC as 'legit money', so to speak.

With the current dysfunction in D.C., how would they even make that determination without feedback from the Trump Administration?

So with NO clarity of intent of any kind, this will continue 'forever'. It is the safe bet to 'deny' it is a risk to the SEC's reputation to

confirm, even if the confirmation would only result in the current administration chastising them, why take the risk. Group Think at its best.

It seems a lot and I mean a lot more adoption and acceptance will have to happen first, I just don't see this happening this year

or next year. Sad to say. Smiley




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July 26, 2018, 10:04:30 PM

Don’t believe the hype.  It was never going to happen.

Buying opportunity of a lifetime coming.  Patience. 

Let the lifetime oppertunity’s be over for a while  Tongue
Its So Nice entering This rising prices
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Have skimmed at 200 mph.  Permanent disallowance of Winklevoss trust trading.  Assume this is shooting down the Winkle ETF?


Edit:  now I read the tweet.  Today is obviously do things the hard way day.

Let’s see if $8k is hot air


Whee $140 down in the time it took me to write that sentence

And below 8K
Pfff Just When i was Going to sleep ..... the morning could be shocking ??  Roll Eyes
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July 26, 2018, 10:08:56 PM

https://www.sec.gov/news/public-statement/peirce-dissent-34-83723
https://www.sec.gov/biography/commissioner-hester-m-peirce

also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jnC_Nq7uUI&
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July 26, 2018, 10:14:14 PM

I thought that was the whole deal with the futures based ETF that it could have a better chance then this winklevoss ETF which is old news by now.   I'm not sure just that decision is an impact on the market exactly.

Its out of the channel at the moment though and taking a negative view but still within a bullish move I think 7725 would be the target downside for it being significant news to produce some selling.   It should already be anticipated and not significant imo but its a measure of strength also

I don’t consider a one-off pilot transaction for a nominal amount as major.  Let’s see if we get some adoption.  

Maybe its major in potential and he is declaring the fact it even took place as the first footstep, hence major but yea it has to be a regular event and useful to those companies as a tool.  Then its Major Cheesy   Any idea BTC could be within the range of traffic conducted by commerce daily is fairly big if it were to happen.   However its got a long way to go as the SEC says, still small on the world stage
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The SEC noted that more than three-fourths of the volume in bitcoin occurs outside the United States, and that 95 percent of the volume occurred on non-U.S. exchanges.

The bid-ask spreads varied widely across exchanges, the SEC said. The volume in bitcoin futures markets are small: 20 percent the volume of platinum, and 2.5 percent that of silver.

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