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[mymenace]

His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.

Hitler's psychological profile as described by the United States Office of Strategic Services:  source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie  

How we find all the crooks - Future proves past

The forum board is being cleaned up at the moment, interesting, shame there is an archive

[nikauforest]

His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.

Hitler's psychological profile as described by the United States Office of Strategic Services:  source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie 

so what you are saying is the left is acting like a certain evil entity back in the 30's and 40's

excerpt ( I have used asterisks , you supply the entity of modern day)
.....
took control of all forms of communication in ******: newspapers, magazines, books, public meetings, and rallies, art, music, movies, and radio.
Viewpoints in any way threatening to **** beliefs or to the ***** were censored or eliminated from all media.

https://www.ushmm.org/outreach/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007677

[JayJuanGee]

The free stuff talking point is nonsense.

Overall people are not seeking free stuff, but they do want to have dignity and work, and some kind of way to live in order to be able to provide for families.. pump out babies, raise families and enjoy their short time on earth.

Maybe "free stuff" is infrastructure that is needed that is not going to just happen by itself without community involvement (which is another way of saying government)?  Yeah, of course, government becomes dominated by a small group of rich folks and corporations, so the peeps receiving the "free stuff" in actuality end up being BIG money that plays the system to their advantage, and the "free stuff" does not tend to get distributed broadly, as the claims are made that social benefits are draining the public coffers when in fact the ones sucking off the public tit the most tend to be well off already.

I'm all for free stuff. I bet I can one-up anyone on the amount of free stuff I want to have give away. Try me. You're definitely not as caring as I am when it comes to the government giving out free stuff (why don't you want free food for kids? Do you hate children?).

But the extortion part...not a fan.

Maybe we are talking over each other?   My main point is that the concept of "free stuff" is frequently misused in order to suggest 1) people need to fend for themselves 2) people are lazy 3) people are the problem 4) people vote based on desires to get free stuff, 5) government is bad, 6) libertarianism is good. 

I just don't buy those talking points because they are fantastical criticisms of current systems to want to get rid of current systems while pie in the sky thinking that voluntarism is going to solve everything..

[realr0ach]

Random Hebrew Marxist propaganda

Well, we both have one thing in common.  We both wish it was actually true 6 million Jews died in a holocaust even if it's not.

[Paashaas]

Fucking lol

Amaury, the creator and lead dev of Bcash lol has been banned from Bcash lol slack.

https://amp.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/959tbe/amaury_creator_of_bitcoin_cash_has_been_banned/

[JayJuanGee]

Fucking lol

Amaury, the creator and lead dev of Bcash lol has been banned from Bcash lol slack.

https://amp.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/959tbe/amaury_creator_of_bitcoin_cash_has_been_banned/

Can anyone name all of them?  I think that I can identify 6 out of 8, and anyone able to fill in the blanks for the two who I don't know?

What I got so far from left to right is:

1) Gavin Andresen 2) Craig Wright 3) ? unknown ?  4) Roger Ver  5) ? unknown ?  6) Vinny Lingham 7) Jihan Wu Brian Armstrong

[Searing]

ah..sh*t and even 6600 for BTC.....

well, hell it is only $$$ right? FML (sob!)

but with August being lite on volume....the bots and such are gonna have a frigging field day....it seems....

(crypto...too much drama....want some plain boring news...it is like a crypto soap opera

gossip/anticipation of ill gotten gains (etf) ...sh*t....

still going with my original view on the next 2-4 years...EVERYTHING is going down 50% crypto, stocks, house, etc...I myself

see a pretty good recession coming down the pike..my only hope is 1) btc is dumping now rather than later when stock market

chokes 2) a normal recession is a 20% pull back..me I'm expecting 40% deep recession..thus my 50% it GONE viewpoint...

3) should really consider at this point in time being a 'minimalist' sell crap on ebay for btc low prices..if right SCORE...if wrong

hell less crap so its a win/win...


frigging silly hairless primate humans running around hooting and panic'ing and tossing 'poo' ...(metaphorically speaking with FUD)...

frigging amazing we have not blown ourselves back into the stone age yet....(get me off this planet!..I wish to defect!)

and now we are at 6,550..per btc ..the fun never ends here

brad

[HairyMaclairy]

Feeling the burn @6457 on Stamp.    

This bitch needs a hard reboot.  

[mymenace]

Fucking lol Amaury, the creator and lead dev of Bcash lol has been banned from Bcash lol slack.
https://amp.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/959tbe/amaury_creator_of_bitcoin_cash_has_been_banned/

Can anyone name all of them?  I think that I can identify a little 6 out of 8, and anyone able to fill in the blanks of the two who I don't know?
What I got from left to right:
1) Gavin Andresen 2) Craig Wright 3) ? unknown  4) Roger Ver  5) unknown  6) Vinny Lingham 7) Jihan Wu Brian Armstrong

How many Scams and Dodgy Developers have they operated?
This is on topic in current conditions, it is having an effect on Bitcoin, see how they run - WEX ZEC

Scams Bitinstant, MtGox, Cryptsy, Btc-e, Wex, ZEC developer (Roger shill) etc etc etc a lot more than this

Can anyone name them all?

[JayJuanGee]

ah..sh*t and even 6600 for BTC.....

well, hell it is only $$$ right? FML (sob!)

but with August being lite on volume....the bots and such are gonna have a frigging field day....it seems....

(crypto...too much drama....want some plain boring news...it is like a crypto soap opera

gossip/anticipation of ill gotten gains (etf) ...sh*t....

still going with my original view on the next 2-4 years...EVERYTHING is going down 50% crypto, stocks, house, etc...I myself

see a pretty good recession coming down the pike..my only hope is 1) btc is dumping now rather than later when stock market

chokes 2) a normal recession is a 20% pull back..me I'm expecting 40% deep recession..thus my 50% it GONE viewpoint...

3) should really consider at this point in time being a 'minimalist' sell crap on ebay for btc low prices..if right SCORE...if wrong

hell less crap so its a win/win...


frigging silly hairless primate humans running around hooting and panic'ing and tossing 'poo' ...(metaphorically speaking with FUD)...

frigging amazing we have not blown ourselves back into the stone age yet....(get me off this planet!..I wish to defect!)

and now we are at 6,550..per btc ..the fun never ends here

brad

I know that you (Searing) and I have had several back and forth communications (both publicly on this thread and a few PMs, too), and currently, I am thinking that part of the explanation why you (and this seems to apply to a few others in this thread too, like Rosewater) tend to get more nervous about downfalls in the BTC price, as compared with me, is that you are looking at the downfall in BTC price as a loss of value to you, because you are focusing on the fiat value.

Of course, I understand that the fiat value is important, especially in the long term, but I think that I can distinguish myself from you partly based on my attempting to view the opportunities to increase the number of my BTC.  Yeah, I am not the only one like this, and there are a few of us who might still be a bit bummed out that the overall fiat value of our holdings is becoming less, but several of us attempt to make lemonade out of these lemons by buying BTC with the dips ... and really if we go to $6k or below $6k, this is going to be like the 4th time that BTC price is visiting these price territories.. .Sure, BTC price could break below $6k (and even below $5,777 which is currently the lowest price for this correction cycle), but nonetheless, we are doing good, no?

Can't we buy some more BTC?  Can't we attempt to appreciate buying opportunities (even if we are a little bit bummed out because our price direction preference remains, UP)?

[realr0ach]

The Jewish occupied govt of America is attempting to eliminate all enemies of Marxism and international Jewry before their false flag attack on US citizens to be blamed on Iran:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-07/crackdown-continues-twitter-suspends-libertarian-accounts-including-ron-paul

https://www.silverdoctors.com/headlines/world-news/behind-the-scenes-ongoing-social-media-purge/

Trump 100% went along with their last Syria false flag BS, and the Mandalay Bay and crisis actor David Hogg gun grab attempts, so expect Trump to be a traitor to the US once again while shilling for Jews.  The entire goal with entities like North Korea, Iran, and Russia, is for international Jew banking to try and eliminate so called "rogue" actors before the economic reset.  They insist on reinstating another Jewish, debt based, scam system.  Too bad.  Not gonna happen.  Silver and gold here we come.

[Searing]

ah..sh*t and even 6600 for BTC.....

well, hell it is only $$$ right? FML (sob!)

but with August being lite on volume....the bots and such are gonna have a frigging field day....it seems....

(crypto...too much drama....want some plain boring news...it is like a crypto soap opera

gossip/anticipation of ill gotten gains (etf) ...sh*t....

still going with my original view on the next 2-4 years...EVERYTHING is going down 50% crypto, stocks, house, etc...I myself

see a pretty good recession coming down the pike..my only hope is 1) btc is dumping now rather than later when stock market

chokes 2) a normal recession is a 20% pull back..me I'm expecting 40% deep recession..thus my 50% it GONE viewpoint...

3) should really consider at this point in time being a 'minimalist' sell crap on ebay for btc low prices..if right SCORE...if wrong

hell less crap so its a win/win...


frigging silly hairless primate humans running around hooting and panic'ing and tossing 'poo' ...(metaphorically speaking with FUD)...

frigging amazing we have not blown ourselves back into the stone age yet....(get me off this planet!..I wish to defect!)

and now we are at 6,550..per btc ..the fun never ends here

brad

I know that you (Searing) and I have had several back and forth communications (both publicly on this thread and a few PMs, too), and currently, I am thinking that part of the explanation why you (and this seems to apply to a few others in this thread too, like Rosewater) tend to get more nervous about downfalls in the BTC price, as compared with me, is that you are looking at the downfall in BTC price as a loss of value to you, because you are focusing on the fiat value.

Of course, I understand that the fiat value is important, especially in the long term, but I think that I can distinguish myself from you partly based on my attempting to view the opportunities to increase the number of my BTC.  Yeah, I am not the only one like this, and there are a few of us who might still be a bit bummed out that the overall fiat value of our holdings is becoming less, but several of us attempt to make lemonade out of these lemons by buying BTC with the dips ... and really if we go to $6k or below $6k, this is going to be like the 4th time that BTC price is visiting these price territories.. .Sure, BTC price could break below $6k (and even below $5,777 which is currently the lowest price for this correction cycle), but nonetheless, we are doing good, no?

Can't we buy some more BTC?  Can't we attempt to appreciate buying opportunities (even if we are a little bit bummed out because our price direction preference remains, UP)?

yeah, just venting but for one point....there is NO legit reason I can see for the fall but FUD....usually, there was more to a fall then

FUD or upcoming 'supposed' stuff like the ETF...thus the bottom is not in yet...thus annoying....myself it is also 'bot city' I hope

due to August and low volume...kinda  prefer the days when an exchange would f*ck up ...at least i had the illusion of 'why' the price

dumped (or pumps) for that manner

on my side of the fence however I have more than enough ..even if btc hits $1k again to stay in my retired state till full retirement

at 65 years (my work IRA gets me the last way home till full 66 years....even if I have to eat all crypto...also 65 medicare kicks in)

thus I'm golden (compared to most folk) ....but again, up till Jan of 2018 ..I had the 'illusion', even as an expected bubble that I

had a grasp of what the heck is going on (mining/equip flips/etc) er...now NOT SO MUCH...not handling 'humility' well.

But again, above is a 1st world problem, I can deal with, no more working for someone no matter how this plays out moon or tulips.

so I bitch and moan....again, mostly on the 'illusion' of the past that I had a handle on something with BTC and crypto..er now

not so much

brad

[realr0ach]

Right before Alex Jones was removed from "the youtube", he was even towing the fake news international Jewry line that there are "Iranian sleeper cells" ready to strike America at any second to try and pre-condition people to the Jewish false flag.  That's in between claiming "the Chinese run the US media" (LOL) and not the Jews every 5 minutes while he's on air starting right after the 2016 election.  Don't get me wrong, Alex Jones talks about a lot of things that are true, and he's always been a Jew Shill (his wife and children are), but lately it's obvious he has been approached by (((them))) and told to ramp up the Hebrew propaganda ten fold or else.  

It appears even though he was Jew shilling 10x harder than normal, they still removed him from the youtube.  Jews are even threatening their own lately like Mark Suckaberg.  That's how desperate they are knowing the end for them is nigh.  Like rats on a sinking ship.

[Rosewater Foundation]

What a shitshow. This is how bears are born. I'm out of here.

[Rosewater Foundation]

*departing cringe-y homespun wisdoms*

[HairyMaclairy]

[JayJuanGee]

[edited out]

yeah, just venting but for one point....there is NO legit reason I can see for the fall but FUD....usually, there was more to a fall then FUD or upcoming 'supposed' stuff like the ETF...thus the bottom is not in yet...thus annoying....myself

Sometimes there is just NOT a tangible reason for a price decline, so it is kind of playing into the theories of Hairy, Majormax and likely a few of the others who are expecting longer term waves that result in continued downward price movement.

Yeah, I don't want to give too much credit to these technical theories, but you gotta admit that the momentum of the ups and downs is kind of playing out their theories in a text book sort of way....  there is a failure to break above certain points, so then there is a correction down that ends up attempting to push down to the extreme, so yeah, even though their theories are playing out in terms of current BTC price movement, we can also experience reversals... because this is bitcoin.  

In sum, what I am attempting to say is this current momentum is largely driven by a kind of reasonable UP and DOWN momentum within a range... and the FUD spreading might be used as explanations that do not really explain, except perhaps on the margins, and bitcoin was going to largely do what it was going to do, whether there was FUD spreading or not.

it is also 'bot city'

What is so unusual about that?  BTC (and other cryptos) are great for the employment of bots.  How you gonna stop it?

I hope due to August and low volume...kinda  prefer the days when an exchange would f*ck up ...at least i had the illusion of 'why' the price dumped (or pumps) for that manner

Bitcoin has to be at least 10x BIGGER than it was just a few years ago, no?  There are 10x more exchanges and ways to liquidate your BTC, and there is more developments, too (maybe not exactly 10x, but a lot of factors)... Part of growth remains that it is going to be more difficult to track down how the price moves, even though the BIGGEST of players likely have their hands in more pots, and are therefore able to better measure and anticipate movement(s) as compared to smaller fishes, like us.

on my side of the fence however I have more than enough ..even if btc hits $1k again to stay in my retired state till full retirement at 65 years (my work IRA gets me the last way home till full 66 years....even if I have to eat all crypto...also 65 medicare kicks in) thus I'm golden (compared to most folk) ....but again, up till Jan of 2018 ..I had the 'illusion', even as an expected bubble that I had a grasp of what the heck is going on (mining/equip flips/etc) er...now NOT SO MUCH...not handling 'humility' well.

But again, above is a 1st world problem, I can deal with, no more working for someone no matter how this plays out moon or tulips.

so I bitch and moan....again, mostly on the 'illusion' of the past that I had a handle on something with BTC and crypto..er now

not so much

brad

I agree with you.   You are in a much better position than a lot of folks to be able to ride this shit out  (look at Rosewater.. he is preparing to go to the cupboards again, and maybe he will have to stay for several weeks, or perhaps longer?), even if it goes down to $1k, which seems quite unlikely.   So, having the ability to ride it out certainly does help a lot, even though it still be somewhat depressing and disappointing that our BTC portfolios remain worth about only 1/4 of what they were during the late 2017 / early 2018 price surge.

But, really we cannot completely measure our wealth based on BTC price surges, even though the surge likely foretells to where BTC prices are going to return, even if it takes several years to get there.. which is still in your window of making it to 66years old.  Yes, it would have been nice to reach and surpass $20k earlier, and to take some more extreme moves in terms of removing some value from BTC at higher prices, but even if we did not remove value, I think that we have a decent signal for decent odds to that BTC will be returning to those higher ($20k-ish and above) prices within a reasonable longer term investment time frame... which should be the mental framework, anyhow for us longer holders and those of us who really have decent confidence in bitcoin's fundamentals - which have also remained unshaken, despite attempts of bearwhales to shake some of us from our coins.. and not going to happen with several of us.

[mymenace]

Looks like Dodgy Roger and his cronies is doing a runner

Some people are going to be pissed

Huge swings, willybot, fake news - Yep we seen this before

and the whales win, while everyone stands around arguing

[Syke]

aliens?

[xhomerx10]

aliens?

 Pretty sure that's Han Solo in carbonite... suspended animation?