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Question: Closing BTC Price June 28:
$0 - 1 (3.2%)
<$7,000 - 1 (3.2%)
$7,000-$7,499 - 0 (0%)
$7,500-$7,999 - 0 (0%)
$8,000-$8,499 - 1 (3.2%)
$8,500-$8,999 - 2 (6.5%)
$9,000-$9,499 - 2 (6.5%)
$9,500-$9,999 - 9 (29%)
$10,000-$10,499 - 6 (19.4%)
$10,500-10,999 - 1 (3.2%)
$11,000-$11,499 - 1 (3.2%)
$11,500-$12,000 - 2 (6.5%)
>$12,000 - 4 (12.9%)
>$20,000 - 1 (3.2%)
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July 28, 2018, 10:44:03 AM


I sure hope it's not going to be 3 years. Honestly, I doubt it will, but what do we know?

Well, it looks like it can't seem to really break out - this looks like just bouncing off resistance.  There is certainly a way to go yet...



EDIT: Actually not 'certainly' - that is a daft thing to say.  Hope spring eternal, but I just think 'not yet'. 
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July 28, 2018, 10:51:31 AM

So, when Franco started the Spanish Civil War, he was a left-winger?
Did some quick and dirty google-fu. Looks like it was a right wing rebellion against a leftie government. That's the best that can be hoped for when the state and the people have become polarized. See also: Let them eat cake!
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July 28, 2018, 11:12:52 AM

So, when Franco started the Spanish Civil War, he was a left-winger?
Did some quick and dirty google-fu. Looks like it was a right wing rebellion against a leftie government. That's the best that can be hoped for when the state and the people have become polarized. See also: Let them eat cake!

I think a 'fascist military coup' against a democratically elected government is what many would say, but no matter.  The end result was a fascist state that lasted until 1976. Franco didn't kill 'outsiders' unless 'anyone who opposes us' counts as an outsider.  They were his own countrymen and he borrowed Stuka bombers from his buddy Hitler to bomb towns and slaughter non-combatants.

All I wanted to point out was that murder of your own people was the pursuit of the left, but not the right (which was what you stated) was wrong.  I can't see how what Franco's nationalists did in starting the Spanish Civil War doesn't prove that point.

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July 28, 2018, 11:21:21 AM

They said Bitcoin is a bubble:



Thx, yes this is a very nice size analysis. And it shows where crypto is about to go over next years.

IMO it would be just too stupid to self-restrict it to a single theme, like a failing gold religion narrative...

Electronic money, what is the Broad Money part is the correct goal, and eFX trading a big junk here.

Hmm, how and where do they do this in such a scale?

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July 28, 2018, 11:31:24 AM

So, when Franco started the Spanish Civil War, he was a left-winger?
Did some quick and dirty google-fu. Looks like it was a right wing rebellion against a leftie government. That's the best that can be hoped for when the state and the people have become polarized. See also: Let them eat cake!

I think a 'fascist military coup' against a democratically elected government is what many would say, but no matter.  The end result was a fascist state that lasted until 1976. Franco didn't kill 'outsiders' unless 'anyone who opposes us' counts as an outsider.  They were his own countrymen and he borrowed Stuka bombers from his buddy Hitler to bomb towns and slaughter non-combatants.

All I wanted to point out was that murder of your own people was the pursuit of the left, but not the right (which was what you stated) was wrong.  I can't see how what Franco's nationalists did in starting the Spanish Civil War doesn't prove that point.

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Democracy doesn't work in the long run. That's why we have this cycle of rising and falling empires, we have not yet found a stable system. Franco specifically went after left wing groups, that's what it was about. Right vs left. The fact that the state was on the left is just bad luck for them, and a reminder why we should not let that happen.

The state and the people are always opposed. The state is not Us. If the state had won it would have continued to become even more left wing until eventually they reach soviet conditions. And then even more people would have died. Franco quite likely saved millions of lives. It's just that it's hard to see a less-bad result as a win.

Individual freedom is a temporary thing that can only exist between extreme right wing and extreme left wing conditions. It is the exception. We are exceptionally lucky to live in the time we do. But it won't last, and it's in our best interest - your own, personal, selfish interest - to study how it works and prepare accordingly.

And as a final note, Hitler is not a magic incantation that invalidates anything it touches.
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July 28, 2018, 12:21:14 PM

Is Hitler bashed more than Stalin only because he lost the war? Stalin was actually much worse. Half of Europe ate that soup for almost 50 years after the war. I still think with Hitler things would have been better for Eastern Europe.

An example:

German soldiers went to my grand grand mothers yard and were very VERY polite, when wanting something they asked nicely and did not take anything by force. All the valuables and females were left alone, no raping or vandalism whatsoever. They filled their water bottles, checked for jews and were gone. Okay, I don't completely agree with the jew killing thing, but it pretty sure is overrated, numbers are wrong etc. But that's another story.

A year later, Russian soldiers went to visit my other relatives. They broke everything they could, smashed the windows, took every single object they deemed as valuable, even forks and spoons. And guess what happened to the females? Raped, multiple times. And half of the men got shot in the head. That's how good Russians are and to be honest, their culture and thinking is still the same.

A simple rule applies here, as it does in many fields of life. 80-20 ratio, where 80% of the people are stupid, 20% are not. 80% of the Russians are, like we call them here, onions (they smell bad and their behaviour makes you cry), 20% of them are normal and able to integrate.

With the muslim run on Europe that percentage is unfortunately lower, 90-10 I'd say.
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July 28, 2018, 12:35:14 PM

Is Hitler bashed more than Stalin only because he lost the war? Stalin was actually much worse.



Suffice it to say Stalin genocided Christians Hitler genocided Jews. All children of god are equal but some are more equal than others.
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July 28, 2018, 12:44:37 PM

Is Hitler bashed more than Stalin only because he lost the war? Stalin was actually much worse. Half of Europe ate that soup for almost 50 years after the war. I still think with Hitler things would have been better for Eastern Europe.

An example:

German soldiers went to my grand grand mothers yard and were very VERY polite, when wanting something they asked nicely and did not take anything by force. All the valuables and females were left alone, no raping or vandalism whatsoever. They filled their water bottles, checked for jews and were gone. Okay, I don't completely agree with the jew killing thing, but it pretty sure is overrated, numbers are wrong etc. But that's another story.

A year later, Russian soldiers went to visit my other relatives. They broke everything they could, smashed the windows, took every single object they deemed as valuable, even forks and spoons. And guess what happened to the females? Raped, multiple times. And half of the men got shot in the head. That's how good Russians are and to be honest, their culture and thinking is still the same.

A simple rule applies here, as it does in many fields of life. 80-20 ratio, where 80% of the people are stupid, 20% are not. 80% of the Russians are, like we call them here, onions (they smell bad and their behaviour makes you cry), 20% of them are normal and able to integrate.

With the muslim run on Europe that percentage is unfortunately lower, 90-10 I'd say.
Someone has to be demonized. The ruskis were on our team during the war, so it can't be them. I agree that Stalin was much worse.
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July 28, 2018, 01:15:47 PM

Yes, Stalin was arguably far worse - the figures are mind-boggling.

But I was only wanting to say:  All totalitarian regimes are bad, many evil - but history shows neither left nor right can be said to have not murdered their own citizens. 

As for saying:

(snip) Okay, I don't completely agree with the jew killing thing...

Well, I am glad we straightened out that there are reasonable people on here, who (when it comes to a bit of genocide) only agree with it partly.
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July 28, 2018, 01:40:23 PM

the rocket will going up tomorrow . bullish!
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July 28, 2018, 02:02:18 PM

The Motley Fool...suggests ...

I haven't listened to The Motley Fool since they recommended I buy and hold Sun Microsystems.

Or Digital, that Alpha Dec is gonna change the world!

Actually you should sell all your crypto and buy GM it's blue chip after all and ..oh wait it ain't now.

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July 28, 2018, 02:18:40 PM

Yes, Stalin was arguably far worse - the figures are mind-boggling.

But I was only wanting to say:  All totalitarian regimes are bad, many evil - but history shows neither left nor right can be said to have not murdered their own citizens. 

As for saying:

(snip) Okay, I don't completely agree with the jew killing thing...

Well, I am glad we straightened out that there are reasonable people on here, who (when it comes to a bit of genocide) only agree with it partly.

There have been far worse examples of genocide in the whole Eastern Europe, we don't go around the world and expect special treatment for that, it's history and we should move on. Half of my family was put on a train and sent to Siberia for a "vacation", none of them came back.

I know a few Jews and when I don't hate them, they are far from likeable. They care only about themselves, and yeah, a cliche, money. Cocky, stuck-up and think they are better than all the rest. So I actually get it a little why the genocide was done on them, they are a plague in the financial world. That doesn't mean I approve it.
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July 28, 2018, 02:33:37 PM

Wow, haven't been here in a while, crypto prices have been boring AF and everything dormant, now I take a quick look at the price speculation thread and it's all about Stalin, the killing of the Jews, with a twist of religion. Priceless!
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July 28, 2018, 02:42:41 PM

They said Bitcoin is a bubble:



Thx, yes this is a very nice size analysis. And it shows where crypto is about to go over next years.

IMO it would be just too stupid to self-restrict it to a single theme, like a failing gold religion narrative...

Electronic money, what is the Broad Money part is the correct goal, and eFX trading a big junk here.

Hmm, how and where do they do this in such a scale?

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goddamned useless BCH - these fuckers will attempt anything to destroy bitcoin.

How can you destroy bitcoin ( with bitcoin )?

Small blocks, small brains?

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Haha, digged old stuff out - still good and correct.

Small blocks was dictated by the 'best' software devs and a fiat based blockstream, blocking on chain stream.

Bitcoin business devs moved on, since on-chain scaling is provenly possible in the global money world.

Sure, not with Raspis, censure and social engineering, but with decent tech and investment like minres already achieved over last years.




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July 28, 2018, 02:43:40 PM

Wow, haven't been here in a while, crypto prices have been boring AF and everything dormant, now I take a quick look at the price speculation thread and it's all about Stalin, the killing of the Jews, with a twist of religion. Priceless!

You can safely ignore most posters and really not miss much. Every once in a while someone talks about Bitcoin. I swear it.
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July 28, 2018, 02:56:24 PM

I think the order of the world, how it works and why we even got where we are now has very much to do with bitcoin. Politics=money, money=bitcoin? Aren't we here to change the principles of the whole financial world? Doesn't history apply to that?
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July 28, 2018, 03:15:50 PM

Anybody know what's up with Gemini? It's been down for while for "maintenance".



yeah , just maintaining

I don't buy it!  Undecided
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July 28, 2018, 03:19:53 PM

Is Hitler bashed more than Stalin only because he lost the war? Stalin was actually much worse.



Suffice it to say Stalin genocided Christians Hitler genocided Jews. All children of god are equal but some are more equal than others.
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Anybody know what's up with Gemini? It's been down for while for "maintenance".



yeah , just maintaining

I don't buy it!  Undecided

The twins are just having a hissy fit. I watched one of them crush a whole sandwich in a bums face once. To this day I have no idea why. The next morning he acted like nothing even happened.  Undecided
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