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[Peter R]

The paid and bamboozled shills Peter R and jbreher are out in full force, breaking the forum rules as they go (of course). You should wonder which agency is most likely to be funding agents to cause disruption in open source projects (NSA anyone?).

uh oh, jbreher, he's on to us!  

Let's regroup back at NSA head quarters with Rick Falkvinge, Jihan Wu and Roger Ver.

Oh boy, you're a special kind of stupid, Lauda.

[600watt]

It pisses me off how much smarter than me you are. 
grrr

when moon?

he isn´t. missing to see the context, the bigger picture is not smart.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

It pisses me off how much smarter than me you are.  
grrr

when moon?

he isn´t. missing to see the context, the bigger picture is not smart.

That might apply just as well to me. I dumped, I'm hugely biased. Chinese bootlegging is a terrifying trillion dollar a year industry. I just can't help seeing these things as knock-off Bitcoins. But it is a protocol after all.

Ignore me. I'm torn. I'm babbling. I don't know.

[600watt]

It pisses me off how much smarter than me you are.  
grrr

when moon?

he isn´t. missing to see the context, the bigger picture is not smart.

That might apply just as well to me. I dumped, I'm hugely biased. Chinese bootlegging is a terrifying trillion dollar a year industry. I just can't help seeing these things as knock-off Bitcoins. But it is a protocol after all.

Ignore me. I'm torn. I'm babbling. I don't know.

when it comes to thieves staying unbiased is not the way to go.

[Searing]

Remember readers, if you hold Bitcoin Core and Bitcoin Cash in equal proportions, you can sit back and watch the whales battle it out.  If you don't have inside information, you're at a significant disadvantage when trading.

I take that as a public confession of insider trading.
I hope you are aware of the fact that insider trading is illegal in practically any jurisdiction in the world?
If you are even somewhat representative of the Bitcoin Cash crowd, I shall from here on after call the Bitcoin Cashers crooks.

well said! will do the same. they are crooks.

yep I'm in that boat......sitting on the fence seems to way to go...when the "my fork is right" many different flavors of bitcoin devs fight it out below....

this 'forking' is not gonna stop anytime soon..not with a clusterf*ck launch of Bitcoin Gold that at least on the toilet paper it resembles is at $214.94

hell, I and 3 guys I know could do a better job...(damn...the dark side of all this 'forking around' is a sexy wench..must resist!!!)

[pfrtlpfmpf]

Guys, my email gets filled with spam, no end. Do you have the same problem ? it´s like this, since bitcointalk supposedly got hacked, i think. Do i have to live with that ?
 From now on, when i log in: No, no, really not !

Allright, i just have to man up, just thought, there´s a trick to this.

They got me good.


It has to do with the amount of bullshit you´re talking, i´m completely convinced  

[monsanto]

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[StraddleHQ]

A mere comparison where is BCH now, I don't see it.

https://coinsutra.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Bitcoin-Full-Nodes-1.png

[Elwar]

BCH was dead until Segwit2X died...now it's a thing again.

Until January when Coinbase releases peoples' BCH to the millions of users that like free money.

[fluidjax]

The only risk to you is that I may have also signed that same bitcoin over to someone else.

More recently another risk emerged: The ability of the node to feed the user a different chain, and then proclaiming that this chain is Bitcoin - when it's not.

In this scenario, a userbase which relies heavily on a few nodes can be switched to any implementation the few node-owners want. So if a few node-owners collude, they can switch nearly the entire BTC userbase to another coin and then proclaim it BTC.

So nodes are important. Very important.

Sounds like you don't understand how PoW works.

There are risks associated with an SPV node, you have said that there hasn't been an example of the attacks being used in the wild, and this in some way you use to support the argument that we don't need to worry about them.

A false TX history, restricting access to funds, or faking the receipt of funds, all these are possible, but because no one has done it yet, you say we don't ever need to worry about it?
You have absolutely no idea what the threats will come in the future, the threat model to Bitcoin is changing monthly at the moment, we know that there is a distinct possibility that there is a miner with control/influence over 51% of the hash power and chopping out a significant part of the security of Bitcoin because you don't believe it is likely, doesn't wash.

Your SPV argument is as a direct result of your pursuit of bigger blocks, you have backed yourself into a corner,  deep down you know that your full node argument is on dodgy ground, but if you want big blocks you don't have much choice but to defend a lost cause.

Compromise the security of Bitcoin in your chosen chain.... but not mine.

[hv_]

BCH was dead until Segwit2X died...now it's a thing again.

Until January when Coinbase releases peoples' BCH to the millions of users that like free money.

Momentum / trend of price might be interesting if this will happen in Jan - if Bitcoin Core has peaked and BCH comes up, they all could adding on BCH.

[Last of the V8s]

BCH was dead until Segwit2X died...now it's a thing again.

Until January when Coinbase releases peoples' BCH to the millions of users that like free money.

Momentum / trend of price might be interesting if this will happen in Jan - if Bitcoin Core has peaked and BCH comes up, they all could adding on BCH.

When you come to bitcoin, there's an awful lot to learn.
One of the very first things for non-native speakers of the language is English.
But you're being much too arrogant to bother with that.
Haven't you ever wondered why you get so little traction?
It's not just that some of your ideas are unsound, but your communication skills are lacking too.

[AlcoHoDL]

BCH was dead until Segwit2X died...now it's a thing again.

Until January when Coinbase releases peoples' BCH to the millions of users that like free money.

Momentum / trend of price might be interesting if this will happen in Jan - if Bitcoin Core has peaked and BCH comes up, they all could adding on BCH.

When you come to bitcoin, there's an awful lot to learn.
One of the very first things for non-native speakers of the language is English.
But you're being much too arrogant to bother with that.
Haven't you ever wondered why you get so little traction?
It's not just that some of your ideas are unsound, but your communication skills are lacking too.

The good thing about the WO thread is that the English language writing skills of most of us are generally above average. The other threads are sometimes unreadable. I've stopped reading other threads, it's straight to WO for me. Updated info, a great mood, and readable posts.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

The paid and bamboozled shills Peter R and jbreher are out in full force, breaking the forum rules as they go (of course). You should wonder which agency is most likely to be funding agents to cause disruption in open source projects (NSA anyone?).

uh oh, jbreher, he's on to us!  

Let's regroup back at NSA head quarters with Rick Falkvinge, Jihan Wu and Roger Ver.

Oh boy, you're a special kind of stupid, Lauda.

Whether or not it's true, it doesn't seem very implausible considering the history of the US.

It is virtually impossible for a government agency to bring down Bitcoin head on, so the only option is a sort of campaign that would disrupt and destroy any and all trust in Bitcoin itself. Seems to be precisely what Bitcoin Cash is trying to accomplish on top of a few people making some extra money.

Wouldn't be the first time the US has been pulling the strings behind some very shady shit.

[Last of the V8s]

a great mood, and readable posts.

[Lopumbo]

some in this thread argue that they don't care about high fees (which are currently ridiculus) and low transaction times because Bitcoin is for them like gold
gold has some intrinsic value but bitcoin gets its value from useability and brand, while the former stagnates
what if blockstream limits blocksize increase forcibly to increase transactions fees and reward miners more?

[bitserve]

@ponli137 13 minutes ago

22.5% of the #Bcash #BCH nodes will not follow the #hardfork
0.16.0 + 0.16.1 (1027)
0.15.1 and older (231)
src: https://bitnodes.earn.com/nodes/
src: https://cash.coin.dance

This is getting hilarious... How much can a fork of a fork of a fork be worth?

Airdrops on airdrops on airdrops.... Funny. And profitable I must say.

Also I am finding this BCH AWESOME for daytarding -scalping on the volatility as if it was BTC @ 2013-. My BTC stash has growed considerably and I still have more than 1/3 BCH left to keep playing.

Thanks, I guess. A lot of work for the past few days though. I am getting as much tired as "richer". I need some sleep now.

aha I tricked you though because 'nodes don't matter', remember.

glad you got some dosh out of this heist.

but I do still feel sorry for the Korean customers who Roger Ver stole from

Never really thought about those "Korean customers"... I mean... If someone buys some crypto that is experiencing such a pump I assume that someone knows what they are doing and the EXTREME risk of a subsequent dump coming at any moment, no?

I would like to blame Ver and his gang for ripping off those people.... but I am not so sure THAT would be completely fair. Maybe he didn't even dump onto them after the peak. Maybe it was us bitcoiners trying to maximize our gains into BTC?

I donno. Anyway Ver can be blamed for MANY other stuff already... trading is just trading.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

aha I tricked you though because 'nodes don't matter', remember.

glad you got some dosh out of this heist.

but I do still feel sorry for the Korean customers who Roger Ver stole from

Never really thought about those "Korean customers"... I mean... If someone buys some crypto that is experiencing such a pump I assume that someone knows what they are doing and the HIGH risk of a subsequent dump coming at any moment, no?

I would like to blame Ver and his gang for ripping off those people.... but I am not so sure that would be completely fair. Maybe he didn't even dump onto them after the peak. Maybe it was us bitcoiners trying to maximize our gains into BTC?

I donno. Anyway Ver can be blamed for MANY other stuff already... trading is just trading.

Not when it's wash trading timed with surgical precision to manipulate the markets.

[Last of the V8s]

Yeah no, but my argument there did have holes sorry.
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[gentlemand]

BCH was dead until Segwit2X died...now it's a thing again.

Until January when Coinbase releases peoples' BCH to the millions of users that like free money.

It's got to be well over a million coins, but Xapo was half a million and they all flew away with nary a blip.