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Question: When will BTC get back above $70K:
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January 04, 2018, 10:54:42 AM

if you don't think holding solid over $10,000 is "momentum" then I can't help you

Its not when the entire cryptomarket cap has more than doubled in that time

Go and buy some alts then

luckily, I already have some, but, It's Bitcoin that I think should be the one flourishing. I'm just hoping that things go back to normal before Ripple takes over, that will be a big PR hit for BTC if it happens. BTC is being attacked and at the moment it looks like the attackers are winning.

Who gives a ratt's ass?

Let ripple overtake bitcoin in terms of market cap.

Does not change fundamentals of either ripple or bitcoin...
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January 04, 2018, 10:57:24 AM

BTC transaction times are slow and costs high.  
This is negatively affecting BTC prices with everyone changing to alt coins before transferring or transacting and seeing no reason to change back...

The solution was and is Segwit.
Yet last I looked only about 10% of exchanges were Segwit enabled.

My question is:
Why?

  • Why are exchanges anti Segwit..!???  I think its a greed thing?
  • How can that be changed?  Is there some way to entice /force exchanges to implement Segwit?
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January 04, 2018, 10:58:46 AM

Who gives a ratt's ass?

Let ripple overtake bitcoin in terms of market cap.

Does not change fundamentals of either ripple or bitcoin...

Craptocurrency market is dead the second that happens, which is good, then everyone will realize they're all centralized scams and go back to physical metals.
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January 04, 2018, 10:59:25 AM

The cycle for ATH is supposed to be 9 months, not 2 weeks!

not talking about ATHs here, I'm talking performance vs other coins. I've seen alts do well before when BTC has suffered, but not like this.

You weren't around here in May when Ripple, ethereum, Dash, Litecoin, ETC, monero and many others did a similar pump while BTC stagnated until it finished?

Looks pretty similar to me.

I was around, but, this time seems different BTC has also lost a larger market share this time.

So did that time... BTC market cap share was around 85% and it dropped to around 50% or less IIRC.

After the alt pump stopped. Bitcoin did more than a 10x in the next months.

Still can't see the difference.
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January 04, 2018, 11:09:15 AM

sold 0.8 BTC yesterday for TRX, today i have 1.6 BTC lol
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January 04, 2018, 11:17:28 AM

If nothing else, this whole alt coin pump is nailing shut the lid on the Bcash coffin.
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January 04, 2018, 11:17:44 AM

sold 0.8 BTC yesterday for TRX, today i have 1.6 BTC lol

Since bitcoin isn't money and is just an IOU, neither are federal reserve debt notes, you got zero of anything until you've cashed out of the debt and IOU system for either a physical good you can defend with an AR15, or silver, gold, or other commodity money that doesn't represent debt or IOUs.
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January 04, 2018, 11:32:24 AM

Bitcoin is not an IOU.  No one owes you anything.
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January 04, 2018, 11:32:42 AM

If nothing else, this whole alt coin pump is nailing shut the lid on the Bcash coffin.

Good. At least xrp is shameless.

If jihan wu and roger ver go down because of xrp I’m delighted
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January 04, 2018, 11:46:05 AM

Bitcoin is not an IOU.  No one owes you anything.

Of course it's an IOU.  It's a valueless token that you pray someone else honors the value for.  That's the very definition of an IOU.  An IOU doesn't require a contract solely with one other party.  You have entered into a far worse contract, a contract with no discernable party at all. 

The only type of money that isn't an IOU are physical commodity currencies whether it's silver, gold, oil, wheat, or what have you, because even if every single other person on the planet dies, you do not require any external actors to make good on your claim and are already holding it in your hand.  It is not possible to be left "holding the bag" with a real commodity currency.  Since bitcoin is not a real commodity, not tangible, and is essentially an imaginary object, it is very much an IOU as far as the human plane of existence is concerned.
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January 04, 2018, 11:54:10 AM

I want my Bitcoin-Bullrun back! Now!!!! Cheesy
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January 04, 2018, 11:55:58 AM

An IOU is an acknowledgment of an extrinsic debt.  That’s a completely separate concept from a token which has its own intrinsic worth (or lack thereof). In this sense bitcoin is a token no different from a seashell (a virtual sea shell).  

There’s no such thing as a contract without a counterparty. There might be an offer open to the public, but it is not a contract until concluded by the parties.  
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January 04, 2018, 11:57:11 AM

If nothing else, this whole alt coin pump is nailing shut the lid on the Bcash coffin.

Good. At least xrp is shameless.

If jihan wu and roger ver go down because of xrp I’m delighted

+1

Anyhow the xrp pump is over. It's time to quickly pump up ETH a bit before the honey badger gets a turn.
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January 04, 2018, 12:09:05 PM


Anyhow the xrp pump is over...

Are you sure about that?

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January 04, 2018, 12:16:10 PM


Anyhow the xrp pump is over...

Are you sure about that?



I’m not
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January 04, 2018, 12:27:14 PM


Looks like it's back on.
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January 04, 2018, 12:29:31 PM


Im expecting this bull run on XRP will not end before it hits $5
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January 04, 2018, 12:36:27 PM

Im expecting this bull run on XRP will not end before it hits $5

I thought this was the price discussion topic for bitcoin not a discussion thread for the price action of cripple. But now we're at it anyway. I hope if it does hit $5 it will be dunked to the outskirts of the sub top 100 on cmc. We still need a good meme for a legendary pump 'n dump.
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January 04, 2018, 12:49:28 PM

We would need a separate thread for discussing altcoins in general from a Bitcoin perspective.

Yeah, I know there is a BT subsection for altcoins but it is pure rubbish and full of blind retarded shills. Not what I am looking for.
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January 04, 2018, 12:49:44 PM

Im expecting this bull run on XRP will not end before it hits $5

I thought this was the price discussion topic for bitcoin not a discussion thread for the price action of cripple.

It is but if the average noob / the media is occupied with X it is only valid to point that out as it clearly is explaining why BTC is stagnant for a while even though crypto marketcap is increasing massively.

All these alt coins look cheap even though you mostly can't do anything with them and many have massive supply.
I can fully understand why someone will jump on those bandwagons and not a $15K per BTC vehicle at the moment.
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