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[xxjs]

*sigh*

Are there any bibcoin beliebers other than me that don't actually think the world economy is about to collapse, fiat is just a ponzi scheme and that Bernanke is about to reveal that he's just a  space lizard being remote controlled by a geostationary Illuminati satellite?

(raises hand)

People get pretty animated re "economic collapse!" on these forums. I guess I was the same way when I got into right-libertarian theory years ago. I now know not to underestimate this system's capability for sustaining the unsustainable. We're always on the brink around here, though! 

Everyone running around talking about a bubble is a fool until the bubble breaks.

And I might add, he is still the fool after the burst, because he didn't ride the bubble and sell off in time. A bubble burst victim can always put forward that he got in before the bubble started forming, and in the years between he lived in a really nice house.

[Walsoraj]

Maybe the bubble is twerking a little bit before bursting.

[oda.krell]

Also, up we go on bitstamp. Mtgox will surely follow :D

[knight22]

Maybe the bubble is twerking a little bit before bursting.

The bubble already burst

[telemaco]

The only thing that shocks me is that any of this is news

Exactly the same sentiment here. How is this news? Like the Prism program... Or the Wikileaks "shocking discoveries"....

Or tapping all the telegraph lines, In 1864.
Operation Five Eyes, since the 1940's

Ever wonder why the NSA decided to farm out their semiconductor manufacture instead of doing it in-house? They own that shit.

They have gone far far away from my wildest nightmares. They have corrupted it absolutely. When they started jailing zimmerman, they got a NO to their sick chip, but they have continued doing it more than ever jumping over not some but all the rules around. Some time ago when the internet started you could not even place an ad on a webpage or internet users would get angry and attack you because people were passionate about the new "nation" that internet was. It was another world. A new world. Slowly, slowly they have converted the library of humankind, the biggest discovery of humankind in the most sick spying shit never invented. We thought it was another type of world but law after law, lobby after lobby they just won.

I am not the only computer specialist shocked, there are many famous techies out there absolutely shocked about what they have done with the computer industry. Thousands of highly skilled technicians have designed, created and recommended the cloud. Were they idiots, evil or they just could not fathom the hidden nature of NSA like the rest of the world.

When they were approached by them, most just rejected to follow and they have been persuaded. In the computer industry there has been a lot of passion, starting by innocent people, with a lot of lack of knowledge of the true nature of our masters. A 20 year old cannot even comprehend the vomit that is inside the brain of the oligarchy. Something really beautiful was being created. People had confidence in yahoo, in google, in wikipedia, lately the cloud was also the place to go and there was (there is still) a movement to reduce costs moving to "the cloud" (recommended by many computer experts). Nobody thought they were that far. We knew that britain and Us were friends but not that they were spying on each other just to avoid the laws of their respective countries, their allies. That they would just avoid the health privacy, the banking privacy, their own constitutions, just to sell the information to the better buyer.

Now even if you use something as innocent wikipedia they have converted it into something awful because they know what you are researching and when...

The nature of the computer industry and the net has not been just bad, it has allowed a level of communication and of knowledge that we did not have before. We were condemned to traditional media. Now you have hundreds of alternate media in web pages, youtube and many others that allow people to communicate and know the true nature of the beast. We were not talking in the other case.

Do we? Or does the guardian hold anything much worse?

You knew everything  from the beginning in all its depth 3 years ago in all its dimensions like we know now? Good for you.

Okay then dig this.

I think these revelations are a construction.

Which, as we have found with previous such hangouts, it only means that there is something way more mindblowing that we won't know about for decades.

Brother's got a brand new bag...

edit: All ya'll are not nearly cynical enough.

We are not cynical enough?. I see every day two or three different new possibilities from many alternate media. Experts from the world bank or workers of that or that very important organization, there are many many different ideas.

We have:

- Saudi Arab is who really controls the world. Obama is someone from the Muslim brotherhood. They did feed the big brother (US) and now they will let him fail. They will get the control of all the middle east and start a new age with china and russia as hegemony powers.
- We have another in which the vatican and the city are both the most powerful entities in the world and they hiddenly control everything and want to reduce world population
- The third mistery of fatima and how the world will be destroyed and the angels with come to save us in just a few years. There are some proven stuff and everything in that video....:-P
- We have the NWO shit and the reduction of the world population. The use of chips in the brain to control everybody and just shutdown whoever does not want to obey.
- Some UFO related stuff i didn't put any attention to.
- and many many more. Illuminati, Bilderberg, etc.

Yes there are many "thoughts" out there, but we don't really "know" until we have proofs like we have with NSA now. Hell even Snowden it is not even a proof. Some people say that even snowden is just shit and it is a distraction movement to convince people with his ingenuity into whatever the oligarchy wants like "internet cannot be trusted". who knows?

There are thousand of different rumours around the world all the time. You cannot be prepared for everything, you cannot think that any will happen. Some are out of your wildest dreams.

Unless you know the future .... Unless you are the Oracle of course.

[MAbtc]

*sigh*

Are there any bibcoin beliebers other than me that don't actually think the world economy is about to collapse, fiat is just a ponzi scheme and that Bernanke is about to reveal that he's just a  space lizard being remote controlled by a geostationary Illuminati satellite?

(raises hand)

People get pretty animated re "economic collapse!" on these forums. I guess I was the same way when I got into right-libertarian theory years ago. I now know not to underestimate this system's capability for sustaining the unsustainable. We're always on the brink around here, though! 

Everyone running around talking about a bubble is a fool until the bubble breaks.

That's all well and good. If you keep singing that song a few more years, you might find that you'll lose steam. I have.

Of course there will be massive economic collapse... at some point. People who perpetually think we are on the brink -- sure, they'll be right, eventually. (shrug)

My position is plan accordingly, but don't plan on it happening anytime soon.

[NewLiberty]

Are there any bibcoin beliebers other than me that don't actually think the world economy is about to collapse, fiat is just a ponzi scheme and that Bernanke is about to reveal that he's just a  space lizard being remote controlled by a geostationary Illuminati satellite?

*raises hand*

The world economy is not likely to collapse.  There are a lot of problems, but there are a lot of people working on them as well.  Bitcoin is a great solution to quite a number of things.  Its a great way to make money, have fun, and do good.

The chart does not show any hyper-inflation, just the inflation spikes we seem to have had every 30 or so years since the federal reserve started its games.  Hyper-inflation is 50% inflation per month, a very different thing.

[knight22]

Are there any bibcoin beliebers other than me that don't actually think the world economy is about to collapse, fiat is just a ponzi scheme and that Bernanke is about to reveal that he's just a  space lizard being remote controlled by a geostationary Illuminati satellite?

*raises hand*

The world economy is not likely to collapse.  There are a lot of problems, but there are a lot of people working on them as well.  Bitcoin is a great solution to quite a number of things.  Its a great way to make money, have fun, and do good.

The chart does not show any hyper-inflation, just the inflation spikes we seem to have had every 30 or so years since the federal reserve started its games.  Hyper-inflation is 50% inflation per month, a very different thing.

+1 (Without the lizard thing)

[Miz4r]

Are there any bibcoin beliebers other than me that don't actually think the world economy is about to collapse, fiat is just a ponzi scheme and that Bernanke is about to reveal that he's just a  space lizard being remote controlled by a geostationary Illuminati satellite?

*raises hand*

The world economy is not likely to collapse.  There are a lot of problems, but there are a lot of people working on them as well.  Bitcoin is a great solution to quite a number of things.  Its a great way to make money, have fun, and do good.

They are not working to solve the underlying problems of our monetary system at all, they don't even recognize how unsustainable our consumption driven economy that depends on infinite growth really is. And how the absolute power of banks to create money out of nothing and lend it out at interest turns us all into a bunch of debt slaves. Really, people need to be educated about how we're being royally screwed here. Nobody (in a position of power) is working to solve these problems at all, they just want to make you think that way while they keep rigging the system.

[oda.krell]

But the lizard thing is fundamental to the space jews plan to recalcify our precious bodily fluids!

[NewLiberty]

Are there any bibcoin beliebers other than me that don't actually think the world economy is about to collapse, fiat is just a ponzi scheme and that Bernanke is about to reveal that he's just a  space lizard being remote controlled by a geostationary Illuminati satellite?

*raises hand*

The world economy is not likely to collapse.  There are a lot of problems, but there are a lot of people working on them as well.  Bitcoin is a great solution to quite a number of things.  Its a great way to make money, have fun, and do good.

They are not working to solve the underlying problems of our monetary system at all, they don't even recognize how unsustainable our consumption driven economy that depends on infinite growth really is. And how the absolute power of banks to create money out of nothing and lend it out at interest turns us all into a bunch of debt slaves. Really, people need to be educated about how we're being royally screwed here. Nobody (in a position of power) is working to solve these problems at all, they just want to make you think that way while they keep rigging the system.

To disambiguate...By a lot of people working on it, (with respect to the monetary systemic problems) I meant you, me, and the rest of us here... not so much "they", the following sentence was the punch line for that.

[NewLiberty]

Hey guise, this is all OT

So, let's get back to observing the WALLS—m'kaay?

Show us a wall and we'll stare at it...  Looks like an old slow river valley, not so much a canyon.

[Walsoraj]

I smell an incoming crash... 

[adamstgBit]

[ChartBuddy]

[derpinheimer]

Selling 133 doesnt feel quite so bad anymore... but, I think this is going to go nowhere.

Regardless, bids around 121.5!

I hope for the best.. Meaning whats best for me. Fall to 121.5X and then super-whale brings us up to 150

[adamstgBit]

take your BTC profits

[MAbtc]

They are not working to solve the underlying problems of our monetary system at all, they don't even recognize how unsustainable our consumption driven economy that depends on infinite growth really is. And how the absolute power of banks to create money out of nothing and lend it out at interest turns us all into a bunch of debt slaves. Really, people need to be educated about how we're being royally screwed here. Nobody (in a position of power) is working to solve these problems at all, they just want to make you think that way while they keep rigging the system.

But usury is not a problem; it's the goal. The question is whether the powers that be can maintain the system. The answer is: they can. 

[adamstgBit]

take your BTC profits

Wha...?

BTC profits?

OR

USD profits?

BTC profits... its rare, if you see it take it!

[ChartBuddy]