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I hate hard drives...fickle, delicate beasts
No freaking kidding. HDDs are obsolete relics from the 20th century second millennium. It's time to move on from moving-parts contraptions. glass-bulb technologies and other fragile inefficient garbage. I've been using SSDs since the days of IDE (PATA) and have never had an SSD fail. I originally got into SSDs for performance (used HDDs in RAID-0 and RAID-5 before that), backing up to HDDs. It was the HDDs that actually failed. I was mainly seeking fast writes and reads. The extremely lower failure rate of SSDs was just a bonus. What's the longest time you have used an SSD for? I thought they were supposed to wear out faster than HDDs. I'm pushing 5 years on my oldest one, and it has been flawless. Pretty sure I've never had a HDD last that long, or even close. My newest NVMe Pro is ridiculously fast. Friends don't let friends HDD
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Ivor Biggun
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I hate hard drives...fickle, delicate beasts
No freaking kidding. HDDs are obsolete relics from the 20th century second millennium. It's time to move on from moving-parts contraptions. glass-bulb technologies and other fragile inefficient garbage. I've been using SSDs since the days of IDE (PATA) and have never had an SSD fail. I originally got into SSDs for performance (used HDDs in RAID-0 and RAID-5 before that), backing up to HDDs. It was the HDDs that actually failed. I was mainly seeking fast writes and reads. The extremely lower failure rate of SSDs was just a bonus. What's the longest time you have used an SSD for? I thought they were supposed to wear out faster than HDDs. I'm pushing 5 years on my oldest one, and it has been flawless. Pretty sure I've never had a HDD last that long, or even close. My newest NVMe Pro is ridiculously fast. Friends don't let friends HDD Was your oldest one a cheap brand, an expensive brand, or a mid range brand?
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March 03, 2018, 01:28:23 AM |
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Only Samsungs are worth getting. Evo's are good enough for full nodes.
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Bitcoin dominance: 41%
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I hate hard drives...fickle, delicate beasts
No freaking kidding. HDDs are obsolete relics from the 20th century second millennium. It's time to move on from moving-parts contraptions. glass-bulb technologies and other fragile inefficient garbage. I've been using SSDs since the days of IDE (PATA) and have never had an SSD fail. I originally got into SSDs for performance (used HDDs in RAID-0 and RAID-5 before that), backing up to HDDs. It was the HDDs that actually failed. I was mainly seeking fast writes and reads. The extremely lower failure rate of SSDs was just a bonus. What's the longest time you have used an SSD for? I thought they were supposed to wear out faster than HDDs. I'm pushing 5 years on my oldest one, and it has been flawless. Pretty sure I've never had a HDD last that long, or even close. My newest NVMe Pro is ridiculously fast. Friends don't let friends HDD Was your oldest one a cheap brand, an expensive brand, or a mid range brand? All Samsung. The old one I'm assuming, as it is in a sealed Samsung laptop...
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March 03, 2018, 01:41:41 AM |
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a 10-day high! Looking good!
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March 03, 2018, 01:45:42 AM |
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a 10-day high! Looking good! Yup. Let's see if racing drones + slow and steady trains give us some goodluck.
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I've got a first gen Corsair Force F115 here that was the boot drive on my first Nehalem rig, its firmware went away about a year ago.
It is a brick.
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HairyMaclairy
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March 03, 2018, 01:46:37 AM |
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Im not even sure. I just have to come in periodically to remind us that up doesnt mean $100K and down doesnt mean $100.
Its a good message we all need to hear. We have a small pump on at the moment but I'm not getting too excited about it yet.
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So tell us darling - how do we know the bear market is over?
If we hit 20k it definitely is Yeah that’s not particularly helpful for those who want to enter before then... Can a series of movements be taken as a more reliable sign? As in "down to 9.8k-9.9k, up again to 12.2k and slowly climbing 100$ a day for a week"? Or some hydraulic quantitative measure (using Toxic's suggestive idea of pools that fill up)? Maybe it's too simplistic to try and define a complex situation by a simple level to be reached, if the path is not also taken into account. If we close above 12.2k on a daily base... thats your sign... If... What more do you need than bitcoin at $11111? ... thats your sign... I bought my first BTC at exactly $111.00 I was thrilled when it hit $1,111.00 Now $11,111.00 Nice organic growth. Looks like Wall Street's gift of limp d*ck was only temporary.
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Ivor Biggun
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I've got a first gen Corsair Force F115 here that was the boot drive on my first Nehalem rig, its firmware went away about a year ago.
It is a brick.
The reviews for this Corsair drive are terrible. One of them recommends getting a samsung instead. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233160Cons: It dies alot. I've had to RMA this drive 3 times. First time it died in 5 months, second time it died in 8 months, third time it died in 4 months.
I was running newest firmware and all the SSD win7 tweaks: trim, ahci, moved temp/page files, no sleep, etc
Corsair customer support is lacking. This last time I RMA'ed my drive they sent me back a refurbished drive WITHOUT the friggin mounting bracket that was originally included, so now I have no mounting bracket and a unreliable refurbished drive... for shame corsair... for same!!
Get a samsung
Other Thoughts: read the reviews on the samsung drives.. they are worth the extra money.
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March 03, 2018, 02:10:59 AM Last edit: March 03, 2018, 02:37:29 AM by drays |
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I hate hard drives...fickle, delicate beasts
No freaking kidding. HDDs are obsolete relics from the 20th century second millennium. It's time to move on from moving-parts contraptions. glass-bulb technologies and other fragile inefficient garbage. I've been using SSDs since the days of IDE (PATA) and have never had an SSD fail. I originally got into SSDs for performance (used HDDs in RAID-0 and RAID-5 before that), backing up to HDDs. It was the HDDs that actually failed. I was mainly seeking fast writes and reads. The extremely lower failure rate of SSDs was just a bonus. What's the longest time you have used an SSD for? I thought they were supposed to wear out faster than HDDs. I'm pushing 5 years on my oldest one, and it has been flawless. Pretty sure I've never had a HDD last that long, or even close. My newest NVMe Pro is ridiculously fast. Friends don't let friends HDD As to me, 5 years of flawless work is too little to claim SSDs are superiour in reliability. Most HDDs i was using (almost all, in fact) lasted more than 10 years, and just went retired due to upgrading the PC... On laptops HDDs seem to die much sooner than on desktops though. Not sure why people in the West think no-moving-part is a synonim to reliability. Might come down to marketing hype... For example, nowadays SSDs can be good, but MMC flash storages used in many tablets, phones and SBCs, are dieing very fast if you write a lot. I had to move from MMC to HDD for my OrangePi (Raspberri-like device), so it could sustain constant writing load due to coin nodes I was running. P.S. You told me the posting practice is the key, so I am practicing now May attach train picture here if I find one...
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March 03, 2018, 02:19:28 AM Last edit: March 03, 2018, 07:15:02 PM by bitserve |
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I hate hard drives...fickle, delicate beasts
No freaking kidding. HDDs are obsolete relics from the 20th century second millennium. It's time to move on from moving-parts contraptions. glass-bulb technologies and other fragile inefficient garbage. I've been using SSDs since the days of IDE (PATA) and have never had an SSD fail. I originally got into SSDs for performance (used HDDs in RAID-0 and RAID-5 before that), backing up to HDDs. It was the HDDs that actually failed. I was mainly seeking fast writes and reads. The extremely lower failure rate of SSDs was just a bonus. What's the longest time you have used an SSD for? I thought they were supposed to wear out faster than HDDs. I'm pushing 5 years on my oldest one, and it has been flawless. Pretty sure I've never had a HDD last that long, or even close. My newest NVMe Pro is ridiculously fast. Friends don't let friends HDD As to me, 5 years of flawless work is too little to claim SSDs are superiour in reliability. Most HDDs i was using (almost all, in fact) lasted more than 10 years, and just went retired due to upgrading the PC... Not sure why people in the West think no-moving-part is a synonim to reliability. For example, nowadays SSDs can be good, but MMC flash storages used in many tablets, phones and SBCs, are dieing very fast if you write a lot. I had to move from MMC to HDD for my OrangePi (Raspberri-like device), so it could sustain constant writing load due to coin nodes I was running. P.S. You told me the posting practice is the key, so I am practicing now May attach train picture here if I find one... The reason those MMC are failing is mostly because of its reduced capacity. That means many more rewrite cycles over its small free area than if it is a huge (in comparison) SSD. My experience is the same about HDD's... I still have many HD's since early 90's that, last time I tried a few years ago, are still readeable. Only one completely gone and another one with read errors in some parts. Out of 30 or 40. Seagate 3TB on the other hand...... Nowadays SSD's are pretty good and have great theoretical number of rewrite cycles... but it will take a couple of decades to make sure how good they are for long term storage. P.S.: Never, ever, use an SSD or eMMC over 80% of its full capacity to avoid extreme wear and tear over the same area.
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March 03, 2018, 02:31:41 AM Last edit: March 03, 2018, 02:44:42 AM by JimboToronto |
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I hate hard drives...fickle, delicate beasts
No freaking kidding. HDDs are obsolete relics from the 20th century second millennium. It's time to move on from moving-parts contraptions. glass-bulb technologies and other fragile inefficient garbage. I've been using SSDs since the days of IDE (PATA) and have never had an SSD fail. I originally got into SSDs for performance (used HDDs in RAID-0 and RAID-5 before that), backing up to HDDs. It was the HDDs that actually failed. I was mainly seeking fast writes and reads. The extremely lower failure rate of SSDs was just a bonus. What's the longest time you have used an SSD for? I thought they were supposed to wear out faster than HDDs. I'm pushing 5 years on my oldest one, and it has been flawless. Pretty sure I've never had a HDD last that long, or even close. My newest NVMe Pro is ridiculously fast. Friends don't let friends HDD Was your oldest one a cheap brand, an expensive brand, or a mid range brand? All Samsung. The old one I'm assuming, as it is in a sealed Samsung laptop... All my newest ones are Samsungs and a few Adatas. My first real SSD was a 32GB Memoright SLC PATA 1.8" card with a ZIF connector that ran WinXP faster than any HDD at any speed. It's still running fine after more than a decade, AFAIK, although I haven't booted up the device in years to find out for sure. In other words, it became obsolete without failing. A couple of years later SATA took over and SSDs went mainstream with consumer/retail SSDs hitting the market. Intel and OCZ led this early push. I replaced my 4 WD Raptor RAID-0 array with 4 OCZ Vertex SSDs only to have the whole storage subsystem bottlenecked by the southbridge. After moving up to PCI-e SSD arrays I re-purposed my old Vertex SSDs, using them to replace HDDs in friends' netbooks and notebooks. I never heard of one failing. I haven't booted from a HDD in over 10 years and I still have never had an SSD fail. My elderly main desktop PC still boots from an ancient OCZ Revodrive3x2 PCI-e card without any problems. My newest SSD is a 500GB Samsung 960EVO M.2 NVMe SSD in my newest laptop. It rocks. "Friends don't let friends HDD." Indeed.
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March 03, 2018, 02:39:52 AM |
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So racing drones are good luck. Will remember
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March 03, 2018, 02:42:25 AM |
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I've got a first gen Corsair Force F115 here that was the boot drive on my first Nehalem rig, its firmware went away about a year ago.
It is a brick.
The reviews for this Corsair drive are terrible. One of them recommends getting a samsung instead. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233160Cons: It dies alot. I've had to RMA this drive 3 times. First time it died in 5 months, second time it died in 8 months, third time it died in 4 months.
I was running newest firmware and all the SSD win7 tweaks: trim, ahci, moved temp/page files, no sleep, etc
Corsair customer support is lacking. This last time I RMA'ed my drive they sent me back a refurbished drive WITHOUT the friggin mounting bracket that was originally included, so now I have no mounting bracket and a unreliable refurbished drive... for shame corsair... for same!!
Get a samsung
Other Thoughts: read the reviews on the samsung drives.. they are worth the extra money. yeah well, we didn't know all that at the time, lol running Samsung NVMe boot drives now
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March 03, 2018, 02:45:15 AM |
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Good solid volume on this pump.
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Ivor Biggun
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March 03, 2018, 02:45:58 AM |
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yeah well, we didn't know all that at the time, lol
running Samsung NVMe boot drives now
You taught me something. I'm getting a samsung and steering clear of corsair.
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