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June 02, 2018, 01:15:15 AM

On another note, people like to pretend that communism and socialism are different things, but they are really just variations over the same theme: Forced redistribution of resources from the productive to the unproductive.

Heard somewhere that the russians founded the communist party because the existing socialist factions were not socialist enough. Building on that, would it be inaccurate to say that the commies were marxist socialists, the nazis national socialists, and that whatever we have today is some other form of socialism? Maybe capitalistic socialism, maybe something else?
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June 02, 2018, 01:35:35 AM

Capitalism is not centralised, thats an important distinction I think does matter and references the disparity BTC has with the current global reserve system.   Politics should not overshadow free markets like it does currently, we dont live in a Royal charter economy anymore but many in business feel restricted from expansion.    Also very large government (50% GDP) hands a massive advantage to the largest of companies.   Economies of scale I think relates there, however the fastest growth required especially to rebound from recession comes from the very smallest of business enterprise.
   Real capitalism is an equal partner to democracy in its effects on a country if done properly but that leadership is not there currently seems to me.

 If crypto is somehow closer to capitalism then we'll appreciate in value or at least have a sound basis to increase population of participants further.   Capitalism is a system proven to work over hundreds of years vs the Federal system which is a century at most or 40 years since no ratio of backing to its activities


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people like to pretend that communism and socialism are different things,

The political horseshoe I recognise there




Topside for a bearish outlook is about 8050 and support at about 6500 perhaps, broad estimates but price is doing very little for a while now.
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June 02, 2018, 02:14:38 AM

Building a ladder right up to $7.75k   Need to find some volume however.
Would expect resistance to kick in at $7.9k to $8.1k if we go upwards.
Below are the same support levels at $7.26k and $7.085k
Whats it going to be, more up or more down? I think more upwards.. then sideways..and perhaps a little more down..but I think we are near the bottom. So buy the dip while you can.
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June 02, 2018, 02:23:41 AM
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The major volatility in Bitcoin's price started when the major parabolic move began, around Oct 22, 2017. The price was @ $6150 before the first shake out. Thereafter, the average daily delta went from a few hundred dollar moves up and down (+/- 5%), to thousands.

So I knew that after the blow off top in Dec, the price bottom wouldn't begin to materialize and stabilize until we got back to merely a few hundred dollar moves up and down (+/- 3-5%).

Well we are there now.

Does that mean we have hit full bottom? Maybe. Since the momentum trade is clearly over for now, the market can stay pegged in this sideways range for some time, before starting to head back up again. Without volatility, day traders will start to lose interest and drop off way before that happens. Miners will make sure the price reflects their cost basis for ROI by holding back supply from the market. Exchanges will continue to wash trade. This could go on for months.

Of course, we've seen times before where the deep pocket whales begin the next bull run with a bang, aka a massive dump/short and stop loss hunt to liquidate all the of the leveraged longs first. If the whales accumulate for a long sideways period, this would give them the ammo they need. So I imagine the next bull run trigger will start with something like that. It could take us spiking down briefly to the $5K range in a flash, before heading back up.
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June 02, 2018, 04:58:05 AM

You are making a lot of sense there Torque.
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Of course, we've seen times before where the deep pocket whales begin the next bull run with a bang, aka a massive dump/short and stop loss hunt to liquidate all the of the leveraged longs first. If the whales accumulate for a long sideways period, this would give them the ammo they need. So I imagine the next bull run trigger will start with something like that. It could take us spiking down briefly to the $5K range in a flash, before heading back up.

Running stops seems to be fundamentally about acquiring product and not so much about effecting the price. Do whales need the coins that are on offer on the exchanges? It seems to me that a whale would interact with an exchange for the purpose of effecting the price more than the purpose of accumulating/liquidating his position. If he were either accumulating or liquidating he would want to do either of those things OTC because if he were accumulating he wouldn't want to drive the price up and if he were liquidating he wouldn't want to drive the price down. So he makes changes to his position OTC but perhaps he tries to use a small portion of his stash to manipulate the price down before making an OTC purchase and vice a verca before making an OTC sale.

I'm not really trying to argue against you here. I'm mostly just interested in how you will respond to these thoughts.
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June 02, 2018, 06:30:06 AM

Cointelegraph ad in Times Square.
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June 02, 2018, 06:44:28 AM

Gawd... Please, if you must quote wordy-man, or the bug, at least do us the grace of snipping out most/all of it.

Think of the children. Or something.
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June 02, 2018, 07:03:36 AM

Ok, which one of you ordered the large green dildo ?

I'll have two or three on weekly chart, please Grin
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Ok, which one of you ordered the large green dildo ?

I'll have two or three on weekly chart, please Grin

Well this is refreshing
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June 02, 2018, 07:50:08 AM

Ok, which one of you ordered the large green dildo ?

I'll have two or three on weekly chart, please Grin

Like this?

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Ok, which one of you ordered the large green dildo ?

I'll have two or three on weekly chart, please Grin

Like this?



I imagined something more like this  Smiley :
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Ok, which one of you ordered the large green dildo ?

I'll have two or three on weekly chart, please Grin
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I imagined something more like this  Smiley :


And make that last one a double please!
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Ok, which one of you ordered the large green dildo ?

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I bought my monthly bunch. Now I can go out and have fun!
Cointelegraph ad in Times Square.

I don't like these things.
Bitcoin don't need no advertising.
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