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Question: 9/19 Closing Price:
0 - 1 (1.6%)
<$10,000 - 3 (4.8%)
$10,000-$10,500 - 2 (3.2%)
$10,501-$11,000 - 13 (20.6%)
$11,001-$11,500 - 19 (30.2%)
$11,501-$12,000 - 8 (12.7%)
$12,001-$12,500 - 7 (11.1%)
$12,501-$13,000 - 2 (3.2%)
>$13,000 - 3 (4.8%)
>$20,000 - 5 (7.9%)
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Nope.  Apparently we have a misunderstanding because I was attempting to say the opposite.  I was attempting to say that the falseness of the moonlandings would be more likely than the falseness of flat earth theories.  Thanks for clarifying and sorry for my ambiguity.



ok so we agree you misspoke.
And tbh, after re-reading your original post that elicited my response of
"oh my fucking god.....etc," that triggered this whole moon landing flat earth exchange,
I suspected that's what you actually meant, so a big NEVERMIND THEN!!! 
Dude, I wasn't trying to blow it up or pick a fight, just wanted to sort out the mess.
Now let's put this damn thing to bed, yeah? Everyone's getting annoyed..lol

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June 05, 2018, 09:44:15 PM

This year 2018

Ex presidents

French
Guatemala
Brazil
South Korea


"All arrested"


Over 25000 sealed indictments in the USA( WOW) - more arrests


This will change the financial system when its ended

and the bitcoin price.

Concerned is it up or down, quick dump then up, crash all together

So much weighing on these indictments


Gold/Silver
Stocks/Bonds
Housing/Mortgages
Pension/Retirement
Crypto/Blockchain




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June 05, 2018, 09:44:19 PM

totally digging this volatility, closing in on booking 0.1BTC from my ladders in the last 4 days


Personally, I am getting the sense that you are a bit off topic jojo, no?  Aren't you referring to booking BTC profits based on trading between BTC and various alts?  You are not talking about being able to get those kinds of profits from the BTC/USD volatility, right?

I will concede that perhaps I am a bit resentful of profits made by others during this kind of seemingly low volatility because it does seem to take me a decent amount of time to book profits (especially since I am not using margin), and the current volatility seems a bit on the lowside, which sometimes causes me to tentatively conclude that I am spinning my wheels because the amount of profits during these kinds of times remains quite low.  In that regard, during these kinds of "slow" times, I consider that I am stacking up and insuring, and maybe a bit of boredom, while considering that this is time to get other things done.. and to enjoy some of the lack of BTC price movement, no?
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June 05, 2018, 10:01:40 PM
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BTC profits are BTC profits Jay

always on topic
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June 05, 2018, 10:13:20 PM

no need from my point of view, as one way or another BTC price is not affected.

there is plenty of evidence around if you look for it. believing it is up to the individual. depends on ones technical understanding of the tech and your belief in the sources.

I think that part of my point is that moon landing and other topics such as the official story behind the twin tower and DC attacks of 9/11/2001, who was behind the JFK assassination and other topics have decently credible evidence on both sides.. There is almost NO decently credible evidence that the earth is flat.

ive seen a bit of the "fake moon landing" stuff. shadows in odd directions, flag staying horizontal, the rock with a prop number, camera button too small, such like that. all were debunked once you know the real reasons for such "discrepancies."

unless theres much more recent stuff to "prove" otherwise, the moon landing being real is a done deal for me.

btw i watched the 1st moon landing in a telescope with my dad in the back yard. cant say we saw much however Smiley

Sure... it seems as if 6 manned landings does provide for more evidence that manned moon landings actually did take place.  So, yeah, if that stuff was faked, then there would habe been a whole hell-of-a lot of theatrics to pull it off.  

I am not really very attached to the moon landing topic, but I can appreciate ways in which any kinds of conspiracy and theories of truth can be connected with benefits of an immutable blockchain that could help to bring some truth to power - even though the powers that be are not likely to let go of their various propaganda machines at any point in the near future, and accordingly, similar to the internet, but likely more profound, bitcoin is likely to deliver a decently sized check on several mainstream propaganda systems.


...."even though the powers that be are not likely to let go of their various propaganda machines"...

True but it is currently been takin away from them, already happening

Perhaps you are a bit more optimistic than me?  There continue to be internet informational and disinformation wars, and even governments who try to shut down the internet and even in the USA with stupid ass slow ass internet speeds and legislation that commercializes (throttles or slow down some kinds of content).  I doubt that the power is gone because a lot of people believe bullshit, and accept outright hateful self-centered criminal leaders like trump..    The war of information rages on.. and government players, large companies and rich people continue to have a disproportionate level of power and influence into distracting through quasi-truths and untruths.


..."By the end of the decade we will walk on the moon"...

They sure were running out of time to keep that statement, I wonder if they pulled out all the tricks to make sure 1969 moon landing happened.

would be very embarrassing if it did not happen with all that wasted taxpayer money

Perhaps we agree about the motive to lie.. however, I don't agree with your "wasted taxpayer money" concept.  Publicly beneficial research and development does sometimes come out of government projects that would not have happened nor materialized without such use of community funds, even if there were millions of dollars into researching a space pen or some other seemingly "wasteful" research.
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June 05, 2018, 10:13:59 PM

@BitfuryGeorge 1h1 hour ago https://twitter.com/BitfuryGeorge/status/1004102135812972544

Network Difficulty @ 35,000 Peta
Halving in < 2 years
And we are still at $7,500 ?
Give me a break !


... seems to be feeling the pinch there. How stupid to show your hand in public, though.
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June 05, 2018, 10:18:02 PM

Phuk!

We are like in desert without water for days waiting for the real bitcoin/Altcoins next big leg to make ATH everywhere.
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June 05, 2018, 10:25:03 PM


Nope.  Apparently we have a misunderstanding because I was attempting to say the opposite.  I was attempting to say that the falseness of the moonlandings would be more likely than the falseness of flat earth theories.  Thanks for clarifying and sorry for my ambiguity.


ok so we agree you misspoke.
And tbh, after re-reading your original post that elicited my response of
"oh my fucking god.....etc," that triggered this whole moon landing flat earth exchange,
I suspected that's what you actually meant, so a big NEVERMIND THEN!!! 
Dude, I wasn't trying to blow it up or pick a fight, just wanted to sort out the mess.
Now let's put this damn thing to bed, yeah? Everyone's getting annoyed..lol

Great.  Seems like we are done with battle mode, for now, and willing to hug it out.    Wink

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but we did go to the moon right?
i mean 20K is not bad right?
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June 05, 2018, 10:32:34 PM

oh and there's a forest fire



at Chernobyl
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June 05, 2018, 10:37:06 PM

but we did go to the moon right?
i mean 20K is not bad right?

No, it wasn't too bad. It allowed for many people to finally gain some form of financial independence. However, minnows like me need it to go to $100000 USD. I long for the day that I can tell my employer good bye. Grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPrSVkTRb24
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June 05, 2018, 10:43:03 PM

but we did go to the moon right?
i mean 20K is not bad right?

No, it wasn't too bad. It allowed for many people to finally gain some form of financial independence. However, minnows like me need it to go to $100000 USD. I long for the day that I can tell my employer good bye. Grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPrSVkTRb24

No Moon

20K crap

my coins are easily worth over a million each

have to sell when you have to sell though.


When we can collectively devalue fiat dollars as far as we can go, bitcoin will be easily over 1 million.

No-one can stop the btc train

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June 05, 2018, 10:53:31 PM


Queen
The Invisible man (1996)
..."
I'm the invisible man
I'm the invisible man
Incredible how you can
See right through me
I'm the invisible man
I'm the invisible man
It's criminal how I can
See right through you

I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed
And I'm in your life
And I'm in your head
Like the CIA
Or the FBI
You'll never get close
Never take me alive

I'm the invisible man
I'm the invisible man
Incredible how you can
See right through me
I'm the invisible man
I'm the invisible man
It's criminal how I can
See right through you
"...


Not anymore we see all.


By omission or allegiance they expose their hand.
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June 05, 2018, 11:01:43 PM

I'm predicting lots of rocket pictures soon
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I'm predicting lots of rocket pictures soon

In which direction?  Grin
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June 05, 2018, 11:18:34 PM


Gold is isolated from direct factors of economic growth but silver is an industrial metal

Gold is an industrial metal too. It is inside of almost every electronic device there is.

Yep but modern manufacturing doesnt require alot of gold apparently, its become far less though I should look for a source.

Heres a couple of pie charts, showing how silver is almost like an oppisite in its industrial emphasis.   In a way its good to have solid uses but also it provides interference to the price when recession occurs




We're back above the MA blue line for BTC momentum, its flat but generally seems constructive with higher lows.   Sideways after a fall can surprise some by effectively being a positive I find, still hear people being negative when its not going down. 
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but we did go to the moon right?
i mean 20K is not bad right?

No, it wasn't too bad. It allowed for many people to finally gain some form of financial independence. However, minnows like me need it to go to $100000 USD. I long for the day that I can tell my employer good bye. Grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPrSVkTRb24

No Moon

20K crap

my coins are easily worth over a million each

have to sell when you have to sell though.


When we can collectively devalue fiat dollars as far as we can go, bitcoin will be easily over 1 million.

No-one can stop the btc train

CCMF

Personally, I believe that it is NOT wise to play "all or nothing" strategies with your bitcoin investment, even if you have a strong conviction that each BTC is worth $1million.  It is much safer to cash out of your BTC incrementally on the way up, and to play it safe, rather than to stick with your convictions that BTC is going to be priced at $1million and perhaps end up either losing too much of your investment, or your psychology or panic selling on the way down rather than on the way up.  

I think that incremental selling of small amounts of BTC on the way up is better than betting too much on too high and remaining filled with hopium rather than practicalities.  

Let me provide an illustration.

Hypothetically, let's say that you have about 10 BTC that you acquired at the current price at around $7,500 (which would be a $75k investment), and you are generally bullish about the long term prospects of bitcoin while remaining somewhat skittish and skeptical about whether upwards BTC price movements are going to be sustainable.

You can decide whatever formula that you like for cashing out of your BTC in an incremental manner, but hypothetically, if you chose to cash out 5% of your BTC for every 50% that BTC prices go up, then you would be doing pretty good at various price points.

It would play out something like this:

With BTC at $25k you would still have 9.025BTC worth about $228k and $25k in cash.

With BTC at $57k you would still have 8.14BTC worth about $464k and $64k in cash.

With BTC at $85k you would still have 7.7BTC worth about $661k and $97.5k in cash.

With BTC at $128k you would still have 7.35BTC worth about $942k and $144k in cash.

With BTC at $288k you would still have 6.63BTC worth about $1.9million and $307k in cash.

With BTC at $432k you would still have 6.3BTC worth about $2.7million and $444k in cash.

With BTC at $973k you would still have 5.69BTC worth about $5.5million and $914k in cash.

The above sets of numbers assume that you do nothing else with your BTC investment, except for cash out 5% of your BTC value at the various BTC price points of 50% BTC price appreciation each time; however, you could be more active and reinvest some or all of your cashed out money on likely inevitable BTC price dips or you could choose differing increments to lock in your BTC profits... for example taking out 1% for every 10% BTC price increase.  

More frequent profit taking will not decrease the amounts of your profits dramatically while it provides some peace of mind to pull out BTC profits more regularly and sooner (rather than waiting for what might not happen).  You can play around with variations of incrementalism up the BTC price ladder in order to figure out a comfortable increment that works for you on a personal level.. rather than holding out for $1million per BTC.. which might not happen before you are dead (hate to be so morbid, but that is the truth of the matter).

The main point that I am attempting to make is to suggest that each of us should make a plan that is good for ourselves, and tweak our plans in such a way that is good for ourselves and still a reasonable plan that helps us to enjoy our BTC profits on the way UP (which BTC continues to seem to have decent chances of continuing to go UP, and having a plan will help each of us to deal with such UPPITY BTC prices at price points that each of us predetermine and can tweak at our own complete and full discretion).

Edit:  By the way, I understand that each of us might not be able to buy 10BTC at $7,500 or have that kind of BTC investment starting point, but each of us can surely work a similar formula with smaller BTC investment amounts and also continue to invest into BTC in order to attempt to reach our goals (employing dollar cost averaging), without gambling too much of our assets in order to attempt to achieve our goals (or to defeat our purposes by gambling and losing)
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June 06, 2018, 12:14:21 AM

I'm predicting lots of rocket pictures soon

In which direction?  Grin

What like this?



I hope it's not that kind of rocket.
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June 06, 2018, 12:16:20 AM

Is John Mcafee insane?
https://imgur.com/a/hX1LnA8

You check his twitter feed lately?
All his tweets are about crypto coins/morphing his head on other people and running for the POTUS.. again. Roll Eyes
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June 06, 2018, 12:22:46 AM
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bitcoin just had a 14.7% difficulty change upwards. that's the biggest since january. there sure is a lot of firepower out there somewhere.

The difficulty increased by 634 billion which is the largest increase in the history of bitcoin. The increase in this period alone is nearly equal to the entire network difficulty 1 year ago.

It probably has something to do with this:

https://adclair.com/gmo-introduced-a-new-miner-that-will-take-the-market-from-bitmane/
https://twitter.com/ynakamura56/status/1003908868114509824


Or this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3359468.20;topicseen (S11's)


Bitcoin has become a war

Yeah, it became a war about 7 years ago.
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