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[jojo69]

the bad kind, I remember those days

do you?

do you...really?

[1714055783]

1714055783

[Globb0]

Sucking diesel

[JayJuanGee]

i find it hard to believe people that are otherwise reasonably intelligent can still believe that moon landings were faked.

mental block?  lack of knowledge the technical aspects? brain washing? wishful thinking? whatever it is.. well enjoy your beliefs.

Maybe there is a need for a thread on the topic?  

I know that there is a thread on the flat earth bullshit, but that concept of flat earth is totally luny (pun intended).  By the way, a faking of the moon landing is not even close to the same level of flat earth luny beliefs.

no need from my point of view, as one way or another BTC price is not affected.

there is plenty of evidence around if you look for it. believing it is up to the individual. depends on ones technical understanding of the tech and your belief in the sources.

I think that part of my point is that moon landing and other topics such as the official story behind the twin tower and DC attacks of 9/11/2001, who was behind the JFK assassination and other topics have decently credible evidence on both sides.. There is almost NO decently credible evidence that the earth is flat.

There is a strong correlation between conspiracy theorists and low cognitive capability.  Make of that what you will.  

Maybe such another thread would treat the concepts of conspiracy theories rather than any particular conspiracy theory?

Surely, the concept of conspiracy theories can be related to bitcoin and also to the kinds of skills that any of us needs to attempt to sort through how to invest our own thinking (and simultaneously, money, perhaps?).

In which basket will you throw the fact that the FBI claims Nicola Tesla was an alien.
Will you accept it as fact or call the fbi conspiracy theorist creators.
https://vault.fbi.gov/nikola-tesla/Nikola%20Tesla%20Part%2003%20of%2003/view

Of course if there is some kind of political or government proclamation, then those might be worthy of looking into to the extent that any meaningful number of people buy into the proclamations.  I would imagine that currently the number of folks believing in aliens that are capable of visiting earth to be quite small, and even smaller would be the number of people believing that any actual alien, if it were to occupy earth, would be capable of imitating a human..... In other words, that Tesla=alien proclamation is way out there in the low probability to be true category (perhaps less than .1% likelihood of any kind of meaningful truth, even though it could bring up decent talking points about why the point was raised in the first place and what evidence is presented in support of such a low-likelihood claim).

[Last of the V8s]

Bitcoin Redux https://weis2018.econinfosec.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2018/05/WEIS_2018_paper_38.pdf archived here: https://archive.is/U5l6t
Ross Anderson, Ilia Shumailov, Mansoor Ahmed and Alessandro Rietmann Cambridge University Computer Laboratory

These guys trying to scare the noobs again ( see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg34059242#msg34059242 )

Many bitcoin exchanges do not now give their customers actual bitcoin, but rather do off-chain transactions with other exchange customers or transact on customers’ behalf with outsiders. Except where customers withdraw cryptocurrency into self-hosted wallets, the ownership of these assets is unclear. The number of off-blockchain transactions has increased enormously in the last eighteen months; we can’t find good figures but the volume is sufficient to raise serious concerns and the practice falls under e-money regulations that are not being enforced.

some commentary here https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2018/06/regulating_bitc.html

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Mannnnnnn, do something bitcoin.

LOL, it just did... something.

I should have specified - do something.....something green

[Last of the V8s]

Using silver instead of gold within a power supply makes the power supply less efficient.

lol.
qed
liking the dry humour

[bones261]

Mannnnnnn, do something bitcoin.

LOL, it just did... something.

I should have specified - do something.....something green

Is that all the bears have to offer? Let's hope so.

[sirazimuth]

Nope.  Apparently we have a misunderstanding because I was attempting to say the opposite.  I was attempting to say that the falseness of the moonlandings would be more likely than the falseness of flat earth theories.  Thanks for clarifying and sorry for my ambiguity.

ok so we agree you misspoke.
And tbh, after re-reading your original post that elicited my response of
"oh my fucking god.....etc," that triggered this whole moon landing flat earth exchange,
I suspected that's what you actually meant, so a big NEVERMIND THEN!!! 
Dude, I wasn't trying to blow it up or pick a fight, just wanted to sort out the mess.
Now let's put this damn thing to bed, yeah? Everyone's getting annoyed..lol

[mymenace]

This year 2018

Ex presidents

French
Guatemala
Brazil
South Korea


"All arrested"


Over 25000 sealed indictments in the USA( WOW) - more arrests


This will change the financial system when its ended

and the bitcoin price.

Concerned is it up or down, quick dump then up, crash all together

So much weighing on these indictments


Gold/Silver
Stocks/Bonds
Housing/Mortgages
Pension/Retirement
Crypto/Blockchain

[JayJuanGee]

totally digging this volatility, closing in on booking 0.1BTC from my ladders in the last 4 days

Personally, I am getting the sense that you are a bit off topic jojo, no?  Aren't you referring to booking BTC profits based on trading between BTC and various alts?  You are not talking about being able to get those kinds of profits from the BTC/USD volatility, right?

I will concede that perhaps I am a bit resentful of profits made by others during this kind of seemingly low volatility because it does seem to take me a decent amount of time to book profits (especially since I am not using margin), and the current volatility seems a bit on the lowside, which sometimes causes me to tentatively conclude that I am spinning my wheels because the amount of profits during these kinds of times remains quite low.  In that regard, during these kinds of "slow" times, I consider that I am stacking up and insuring, and maybe a bit of boredom, while considering that this is time to get other things done.. and to enjoy some of the lack of BTC price movement, no?

[jojo69]

BTC profits are BTC profits Jay

always on topic

[JayJuanGee]

no need from my point of view, as one way or another BTC price is not affected.

there is plenty of evidence around if you look for it. believing it is up to the individual. depends on ones technical understanding of the tech and your belief in the sources.

I think that part of my point is that moon landing and other topics such as the official story behind the twin tower and DC attacks of 9/11/2001, who was behind the JFK assassination and other topics have decently credible evidence on both sides.. There is almost NO decently credible evidence that the earth is flat.

ive seen a bit of the "fake moon landing" stuff. shadows in odd directions, flag staying horizontal, the rock with a prop number, camera button too small, such like that. all were debunked once you know the real reasons for such "discrepancies."

unless theres much more recent stuff to "prove" otherwise, the moon landing being real is a done deal for me.

btw i watched the 1st moon landing in a telescope with my dad in the back yard. cant say we saw much however

Sure... it seems as if 6 manned landings does provide for more evidence that manned moon landings actually did take place.  So, yeah, if that stuff was faked, then there would habe been a whole hell-of-a lot of theatrics to pull it off.  

I am not really very attached to the moon landing topic, but I can appreciate ways in which any kinds of conspiracy and theories of truth can be connected with benefits of an immutable blockchain that could help to bring some truth to power - even though the powers that be are not likely to let go of their various propaganda machines at any point in the near future, and accordingly, similar to the internet, but likely more profound, bitcoin is likely to deliver a decently sized check on several mainstream propaganda systems.

...."even though the powers that be are not likely to let go of their various propaganda machines"...

True but it is currently been takin away from them, already happening

Perhaps you are a bit more optimistic than me?  There continue to be internet informational and disinformation wars, and even governments who try to shut down the internet and even in the USA with stupid ass slow ass internet speeds and legislation that commercializes (throttles or slow down some kinds of content).  I doubt that the power is gone because a lot of people believe bullshit, and accept outright hateful self-centered criminal leaders like trump..    The war of information rages on.. and government players, large companies and rich people continue to have a disproportionate level of power and influence into distracting through quasi-truths and untruths.

..."By the end of the decade we will walk on the moon"...

They sure were running out of time to keep that statement, I wonder if they pulled out all the tricks to make sure 1969 moon landing happened.

would be very embarrassing if it did not happen with all that wasted taxpayer money

Perhaps we agree about the motive to lie.. however, I don't agree with your "wasted taxpayer money" concept.  Publicly beneficial research and development does sometimes come out of government projects that would not have happened nor materialized without such use of community funds, even if there were millions of dollars into researching a space pen or some other seemingly "wasteful" research.

[Last of the V8s]

@BitfuryGeorge 1h1 hour ago https://twitter.com/BitfuryGeorge/status/1004102135812972544

Network Difficulty @ 35,000 Peta
Halving in < 2 years
And we are still at $7,500 ?
Give me a break !


... seems to be feeling the pinch there. How stupid to show your hand in public, though.

[RewFrew]

Phuk!

We are like in desert without water for days waiting for the real bitcoin/Altcoins next big leg to make ATH everywhere.

[JayJuanGee]

Nope.  Apparently we have a misunderstanding because I was attempting to say the opposite.  I was attempting to say that the falseness of the moonlandings would be more likely than the falseness of flat earth theories.  Thanks for clarifying and sorry for my ambiguity.

ok so we agree you misspoke.
And tbh, after re-reading your original post that elicited my response of
"oh my fucking god.....etc," that triggered this whole moon landing flat earth exchange,
I suspected that's what you actually meant, so a big NEVERMIND THEN!!! 
Dude, I wasn't trying to blow it up or pick a fight, just wanted to sort out the mess.
Now let's put this damn thing to bed, yeah? Everyone's getting annoyed..lol

Great.  Seems like we are done with battle mode, for now, and willing to hug it out.   

[Last of the V8s]

but we did go to the moon right?
i mean 20K is not bad right?

[Last of the V8s]

oh and there's a forest fire



at Chernobyl

[bones261]

but we did go to the moon right?
i mean 20K is not bad right?

No, it wasn't too bad. It allowed for many people to finally gain some form of financial independence. However, minnows like me need it to go to $100000 USD. I long for the day that I can tell my employer good bye.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPrSVkTRb24

[mymenace]

but we did go to the moon right?
i mean 20K is not bad right?

No, it wasn't too bad. It allowed for many people to finally gain some form of financial independence. However, minnows like me need it to go to $100000 USD. I long for the day that I can tell my employer good bye.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPrSVkTRb24

No Moon

20K crap

my coins are easily worth over a million each

have to sell when you have to sell though.


When we can collectively devalue fiat dollars as far as we can go, bitcoin will be easily over 1 million.

No-one can stop the btc train

CCMF

[mymenace]

Queen
The Invisible man (1996)
..."
I'm the invisible man
I'm the invisible man
Incredible how you can
See right through me
I'm the invisible man
I'm the invisible man
It's criminal how I can
See right through you

I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed
And I'm in your life
And I'm in your head
Like the CIA
Or the FBI
You'll never get close
Never take me alive

I'm the invisible man
I'm the invisible man
Incredible how you can
See right through me
I'm the invisible man
I'm the invisible man
It's criminal how I can
See right through you
"...


Not anymore we see all.


By omission or allegiance they expose their hand.