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October 14, 2018, 08:41:44 PM

Anyone else seeing that 212 BTC sell wall on Stamp?

Yep. $140 difference between bitfinex and stamp now. Whats that all about ?

Tether is slowly losing value against the US dollar.  You can see the premium on all USDT exchanges.  It will bounce back if BFX fixes its banking issues and sink further if BFX cannot.  Happens every time there is Tether FUD. 


Still never touched a Tether market - doesn't feel right to me...
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Still never touched a Tether market - doesn't feel right to me...

Me neither. Dodgy exchange, dodgy fractional reserve scheme. Risk: Off the fucking scale.
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Fake chart.  Real unemployment doubled after 2008 and never went down.  There is not a "next" financial crisis because the 2008 one never left in the first place.  It's one big downward spiral while they rig DOW numbers to try and convince people it's not.  In the end, they will be forced to remonetize metals as the unserviceable debt implodes everything.  Or they will refuse, everything implodes anyway, then the free market does it naturally.

The free market is not going to choose any valueless, imaginary, digital ponzi schemes to replace the previous digital ponzi scheme that just imploded either.  The market is going to take a flying leap back to the most ultra safest thing possible, and we all know what that is - physical metals.



My personal experience, while anecdotal, is contradictory. I'm the GM of a construction company. We've had a very hard time finding workers for the last several years. We've had to significantly boost our rates of pay and benefits to workers. Also, we've had so much work, that we've been having to turn projects away every year. All of our subcontractors, competitors, etc. who I've talked to are in the same boat.

Because like I've said a million times before, a debt based currency requires infinite growth to not implode.  Since they know they can't generate any actual growth due to peak working age demographic and peak energy, they instead set interest rates to 0, then start preventing Mexicans and H1b from flooding the market with 3rd world slaves to suppress the wages.  

Mexicans + H1b workers = DEFLATIONARY = if you do it long enough, banks collapse eventually.

All of Trump's actions aren't some type of pro-white nationalist platform.  Real "growth" and inflation are virtually the same thing in terms of preventing banks from collapsing.  So all of his actions are nothing more than pro-bank and trying to keep the banks afloat by trying to stop deflation and cause inflation.  Simply turning off the spigot of Mexicans and H1b is what you see in your field.  

This is why there's a civil war amongst international Jewry aka the so-called "elite".  Most of them want to flood white countries with 3rd worlders to destroy them, while others who benefit from usury banking want to enact policies to create inflation and keep banks afloat, and these policies just so happen to coincidentally be anti-white genocide.  

The real prime mover of all this stuff is energy though.  The fact all the low hanging fruit in oil was taken first and it's now headed towards thermodynamic collapse in extraction means no amount of paper rigging is going to create the 'infinite growth' needed to sustain the Jew banks.  On paper, they could keep the debt based scam running forever by just tampering with inflation if energy was a constant, but it's not.  If a change in the energy market invalidates the current business model of suburbs, long commutes, globalization, infinite growth, etc, then no amount of paper rigging can solve that and banks all die anyway.  

Even if you're some type of evil, Jewish, Talmudic psychopath that wants it, globalization and global govt are 100% dead in the water and things are destined to become much more local.
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October 14, 2018, 10:34:42 PM

Anyone else seeing that 212 BTC sell wall on Stamp?

Yep. $140 difference between bitfinex and stamp now. Whats that all about ?

Tether is slowly losing value against the US dollar.  You can see the premium on all USDT exchanges.  It will bounce back if BFX fixes its banking issues and sink further if BFX cannot.  Happens every time there is Tether FUD. 


Still never touched a Tether market - doesn't feel right to me...

tether asics soon!  Kiss  weeeee
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October 14, 2018, 10:42:40 PM

The little spike triggered my safety stop, so I gained 10% less than I could have if I'd closed at the local bottom. Not going to open another short for the moment.

Call me paranoid, but it was so quick and sharp that it looks just like stop hunting.

I will start slowly reentering a short at $6,300.  The last spike tickled my limit order on Mex but didn’t fill it.  If we can hold the green candle for the daily close we might see close to $6,400 today.  

I'm feeling in a similar way, but probably a bit less comfortable. Ideally, I'd wait for 6500ish and be quick and ready with stop losses. I've got a hunch about a run approaching 8k midweek (and then back). The hunch is Sources Omitted, Mouthlock Active.
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October 14, 2018, 11:31:16 PM


If there's any danger from people being obsessed with cell phones, I'm pretty sure it's due to mindless women and teenage girls and not shitcoiners.
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October 14, 2018, 11:58:24 PM

The weekly looks like shit and we still have room to run until support.  I’m pretty relaxed about entry.
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October 15, 2018, 12:13:59 AM

I’m pretty relaxed about entry.

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies

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These servers were assembled for Elemental by Super Micro Computer Inc., a San Jose-based company (commonly known as Supermicro) that’s also one of the world’s biggest suppliers of server motherboards

No single evidence of those claims been presented though. #justsaying

I haven't done any research into this but here is more.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-09/new-evidence-of-hacked-supermicro-hardware-found-in-u-s-telecom

I'm not sure what is going on ATM. Something weird is afoot.

https://www.servethehome.com/yossi-appleboum-disagrees-bloomberg-is-positioning-his-research-against-supermicro/

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citing Yossi Appleboum CEO of Sepio Systems. Here is that story. I reached out to Mr. Appleboum for comment via telephone. Whereas the Bloomberg story singles out Supermicro servers, Mr. Appleboum’s sentiment is that this is an industrywide issue. Other very large server and networking manufacturers are certainly impacted, perhaps more so. He also stated that as an industry, or a society, we have two options: we go with the narrative that a US company, Supermicro, is the only one impacted as the Bloomberg reporting suggests, or we recognize that this is a persistent threat that impacts the entire hardware supply chain
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October 15, 2018, 12:39:56 AM

My personal experience, while anecdotal, is contradictory. I'm the GM of a construction company. We've had a very hard time finding workers for the last several years. We've had to significantly boost our rates of pay and benefits to workers. Also, we've had so much work, that we've been having to turn projects away every year. All of our subcontractors, competitors, etc. who I've talked to are in the same boat.

Would have to agree.  In a tech related industry rather than construction but it has gotten to the point where our staff are getting poached faster than we can train them. Historically we have always trained our own but have now started poaching trained people from elsewhere for the first time.  

But you guys are looking at the wrong demographic. The major group that left the workforce after 2009 and never came back were between the ages of 50-65. And that is a HUGE number of the population. These were high salary positions (e.g., VPs, upper middle managers, engineers, directors, etc.) and people who contributed greatly to the vast consumerism going on pre-2008.

And they didn't voluntarily leave the workforce. They were pushed out (ie., laid off, encouraged early retirement, etc.) Ageism is what is not letting them back into the workforce at the same pay rate they had been enjoying before. Most have decided to downscale their lifestyle drastically, pay off debts, and rely on their savings, investments, spouse, and/or SS to continue living. Some part time work. Others have had to take drastic salary cuts just to work full time again.

Especially in IT/Tech, look around. How many people employed in that field do you see over the age of 45? 40? Or even 35? Not many. Definitely no one 50-65 yrs old.
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October 15, 2018, 01:08:08 AM


I'm always #bullish, but why can't honey badger keep up with this thread?

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies

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These servers were assembled for Elemental by Super Micro Computer Inc., a San Jose-based company (commonly known as Supermicro) that’s also one of the world’s biggest suppliers of server motherboards

No single evidence of those claims been presented though. #justsaying

I haven't done any research into this but here is more.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-09/new-evidence-of-hacked-supermicro-hardware-found-in-u-s-telecom

I'm not sure what is going on ATM. Something weird is afoot.

https://www.servethehome.com/yossi-appleboum-disagrees-bloomberg-is-positioning-his-research-against-supermicro/

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citing Yossi Appleboum CEO of Sepio Systems. Here is that story. I reached out to Mr. Appleboum for comment via telephone. Whereas the Bloomberg story singles out Supermicro servers, Mr. Appleboum’s sentiment is that this is an industrywide issue. Other very large server and networking manufacturers are certainly impacted, perhaps more so. He also stated that as an industry, or a society, we have two options: we go with the narrative that a US company, Supermicro, is the only one impacted as the Bloomberg reporting suggests, or we recognize that this is a persistent threat that impacts the entire hardware supply chain


FUD.

He is talking about a well known POTENTIAL attack vector. Still no evidence of the specific claims which, btw, don't make many sense:

1- Bloomberg initially pointed to supermicro servers and, specifically, a small microchip embedded into the board. Where is that microchip? Where is the research? Anything?
2- Then Appleboum says Bloomberg misquoted him because he never said anything specific (ie, Supermicro) but that it is a widespread problem.Well, again, where are their forensic evidence? Anything?
3- The description of the embedded chip doesn't make any sense. Of course, that is unsurprising when it comes to MSM but.... in this case it is not possible to check the facts from the technical sources because.... where is it? Anything?
4- I would certainly be greatly interested in knowing more about that spectacular microchip the size of a tiny SMC capacitor that features integrated cpu, ram, etc and is able to work and process at baseband frequencies. THAT is the evidence I would like to see, no matter if it has been used on a large scale attack or not.

Even though there is not evidence of this case, as I said it is a well known possible attack vector (usually by replacement in-situ or in the last stages on the supply chain not at manufacturing) and there are many countermeasures that are security best practices since many years: Isolated networks/segmentation, Data leak detection/prevention, etc....

It is way easier to implement this attacks by firmware modification though... Anyway, not going to completely shit over what they are saying because it is theoretical posible but until no specific evidence is shown I tag it as (plausible) FUD.
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October 15, 2018, 01:58:36 AM

What can be more bullish than this?

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October 15, 2018, 02:28:44 AM

Kucoin closes USDT deposits and withdrawals for maintenance. 

https://news.kucoin.com/en/usdt-deposits-and-withdrawals-temporarily-closed-2/
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October 15, 2018, 03:47:58 AM

The notorious Jew shills of Saudi Arabia:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-14/did-saudis-cia-fear-khashoggi-911-bombshell
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies

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These servers were assembled for Elemental by Super Micro Computer Inc., a San Jose-based company (commonly known as Supermicro) that’s also one of the world’s biggest suppliers of server motherboards

No single evidence of those claims been presented though. #justsaying

I haven't done any research into this but here is more.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-09/new-evidence-of-hacked-supermicro-hardware-found-in-u-s-telecom

I'm not sure what is going on ATM. Something weird is afoot.

https://www.servethehome.com/yossi-appleboum-disagrees-bloomberg-is-positioning-his-research-against-supermicro/

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citing Yossi Appleboum CEO of Sepio Systems. Here is that story. I reached out to Mr. Appleboum for comment via telephone. Whereas the Bloomberg story singles out Supermicro servers, Mr. Appleboum’s sentiment is that this is an industrywide issue. Other very large server and networking manufacturers are certainly impacted, perhaps more so. He also stated that as an industry, or a society, we have two options: we go with the narrative that a US company, Supermicro, is the only one impacted as the Bloomberg reporting suggests, or we recognize that this is a persistent threat that impacts the entire hardware supply chain


FUD.

He is talking about a well known POTENTIAL attack vector. Still no evidence of the specific claims which, btw, don't make many sense:

1- Bloomberg initially pointed to supermicro servers and, specifically, a small microchip embedded into the board. Where is that microchip? Where is the research? Anything?
2- Then Appleboum says Bloomberg misquoted him because he never said anything specific (ie, Supermicro) but that it is a widespread problem.Well, again, where are their forensic evidence? Anything?
3- The description of the embedded chip doesn't make any sense. Of course, that is unsurprising when it comes to MSM but.... in this case it is not possible to check the facts from the technical sources because.... where is it? Anything?
4- I would certainly be greatly interested in knowing more about that spectacular microchip the size of a tiny SMC capacitor that features integrated cpu, ram, etc and is able to work and process at baseband frequencies. THAT is the evidence I would like to see, no matter if it has been used on a large scale attack or not.

Even though there is not evidence of this case, as I said it is a well known possible attack vector (usually by replacement in-situ or in the last stages on the supply chain not at manufacturing) and there are many countermeasures that are security best practices since many years: Isolated networks/segmentation, Data leak detection/prevention, etc....

It is way easier to implement this attacks by firmware modification though... Anyway, not going to completely shit over what they are saying because it is theoretical posible but until no specific evidence is shown I tag it as (plausible) FUD.

No he states that there is a chip embedded in a replaced rj-45 connector and you can tell the difference between the two boards as the un modified one has plastic enclosure while the modified one has a metal casing that doubles as a heat sink. He cannot show anything concrete because of the NDA gag but that cannot stop him from reporting the fact the hack has been found. Just like the one that infiltrated AWS and APPLE as well as a few other places in 2015.

Ask yourself this. Would Supermicro allow FUD that dropped their stock 50% go unchallenged in court unless they knew they would lose? Discovery trumps NDA so if they sue then the evidence can be presented. Wink
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