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October 21, 2018, 05:21:30 PM
Merited by xhomerx10 (2), vapourminer (1), JayJuanGee (1), Wekkel (1), drays (1)

Decided to edumakate myself with a little weekend research on Bakkt and promptly fell into a rabbit hole.

Bakkt could certainly have a far larger near-term impact than Cboe or any others' ETF, as they are targeting both consumers and institutions in the same go. Having Starbucks as a partner could be a real game changer, the epitome of retail transaction exposure.

Also good to see some of the more disillusioned Wall Street veterans changing teams to root for crypto, and putting pressure on the SEC/CFTC to not fuck it all up.

Overall, I'm feeling more medium-to-long term bullish with Bakkt coming, although I think the year end price will end up as a wash. Hard to compete with the US midterm elections and other geopolitical turmoil, news wise. A rather inopportune time for Bakkt's release or a crypto bull run.

New Bakkt Venture Could Make Bitcoin As Mainstream As Starbucks
https://www.forbes.com/sites/norbertmichel/2018/08/13/new-bakkt-venture-could-make-bitcoin-as-mainstream-as-starbucks/#57b98c7436c8

Bitcoin Experts Pin Price Hopes On Early November -- Here's Why
https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2018/09/04/bitcoin-experts-pin-price-hopes-on-early-november-heres-why/#599997702256

Bitcoin Core Developer Joins Forces With Former Morgan Stanley Exec To Warn SEC
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeldelcastillo/2018/09/21/bitcoin-core-developer-joins-forces-with-former-morgan-stanley-exec-to-warn-sec/#7dd9ce435baf

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“We believe that current SEC rules surrounding custody do not reflect the risks inherent in managing digital assets and do not use the technical strengths of the technology. These technical strengths have the potential to lead to a stronger, more robust custody environment. To better understand these possibilities, to build to strengths of technologies, and to not harm its advantages, we recommend that the SEC engage with those who are experienced with technology, such as cryptographic engineers, software developers, Bitcoin exchanges, smart-contract designers, blockchain developers, and existing digital-asset managers to ensure best practices are implemented.”

Just a week after Caitlin Long, a co-author of the letter, first expressed similar concerns in an article on Forbes, Bakkt CEO Kelly Loeffler published a blog further elaborating on the planned cryptocurrency exchange services. In the post Loeffler clarified that the “bitcoin contract will not be traded on margin, use leverage, or serve to create a paper claim on a real asset.” If the exchange follows the guidelines Loeffler laid out, it would put an end to many of the concerns expressed in the letter.

More articles from Caitlin Long:

ICE Creating New Cryptocurrency Market: A Double-Edged Sword
https://www.forbes.com/sites/caitlinlong/2018/08/03/ice-creating-new-cryptocurrency-market-a-double-edged-sword/#5f0b5ebb1015

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But it’s also a double-edged sword, because it’s likely the beginning of Wall Street creating financial claims to bitcoin out of thin air (and not backed by actual bitcoins), which could offset some of Bitcoin’s algorithmically-enforced scarcity.

Thankfully, for existing bitcoin investors, HODLers are likely to make that difficult by storing most bitcoins outside of the financial system and making it the epitome of “hard to borrow.”

Two Wall Street Terms Every Bitcoin Trader Needs To Learn Now
https://www.forbes.com/sites/caitlinlong/2018/08/13/the-r-and-c-words-enter-the-vocabulary-of-bitcoin-enthusiasts/#2ac0677a68f3

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The “R” and “C” words, rehypothecation and commingling, are as antithetical to how Bitcoin works as they are integral to how Wall Street works.

Three part series exploring building rivalry between cryptocurrencies and Wall St by same author, pretty enlightening perspectives:

ICOs Were 45% Of IPOs In Q2 2018, As Cryptos Disrupt Investment Banks
https://www.forbes.com/sites/caitlinlong/2018/07/22/icos-were-45-of-ipos-in-q2-2018-as-cryptos-disrupt-investment-banks/#63cd8619794c

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Cryptocurrency capital markets--which are less than 3 years old--are challenging the supremacy of traditional investment banks for raising new capital, as they raised 45% of the amount raised by traditional IPOs (initial public offerings) during Q2 2018.

Incumbents have been complacent about the rise of cryptocurrency markets and ultimately will not take this trend lightly.

Is Financialization A Double-Edged Sword For Bitcoin And Cryptocurrencies?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/caitlinlong/2018/07/31/is-financialization-a-double-edged-sword-for-bitcoin-and-cryptocurrencies/#79a299402a20

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Will HODLers permit the financialization of cryptocurrencies?

So far, only the good type of financialization is happening in cryptocurrency markets. Leverage-based financialization is not happening—yet.

Racing To Fix Wall Street: ICE, Cryptocurrencies And Enterprise Blockchain
https://www.forbes.com/sites/caitlinlong/2018/08/07/racing-to-fix-wall-street-ice-cryptocurrencies-and-enterprise-blockchain/#3f2e9033215e

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ICE’s move renders many of Wall Street’s enterprise blockchain projects obsolete

Short of this, the SEC and CFTC should beware of the heightened risks with allowing clearinghouses, custodians and warehouses to hold cryptocurrencies in omnibus accounts. They instantly become “honeypots” for hackers.

The Bakkt Blog, CEO Kelly Loeffler
https://medium.com/bakkt-blog

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We’re taking a transparent approach to engage across the industry as we begin testing and onboarding in November, and trading and warehousing in December, subject to CFTC approval.

Our patent-pending market model is focused on mitigating risk while creating opportunities for institutions to serve their clients in a regulated framework for digital assets. This means creating a solution that both provides wanted exposure and limits unwanted exposure. A critical aspect of our model is ensuring that our clearing members are well protected from a risk perspective through a conservative market design, including:

o a requirement of full prefunding for all Bitcoin trades

o allowing clients to onboard directly to the warehouse, meaning that clearing members will not be required to handle cryptocurrency themselves, and

o a new, separate guaranty fund for Bitcoin, fully funded by Bakkt and ICE, helps ensure that non-defaulting clearing member capital is not at risk in the waterfall

These points should also eliminate misconceptions regarding commingling, leverage and rehypothecation, which are not features of our offering. We are committed to serving the market in a productive and secure manner as customer needs and regulatory frameworks evolve.

Moo(n).
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October 21, 2018, 05:47:07 PM

Not so much about crypto but a nice overview of some economic macro themes into 2019: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-20/ecb-worst-run-central-bank-world-feliz-zulauf-sees-30-plunge-us-stocks-taking-world?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29

If the US stock markets indeed go down with 25-30%, I think this would support the 'Bitcoin to $4,800 thesis' before the next bull run.

That would suggest a lot of patience.
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October 21, 2018, 05:53:07 PM


For those who don't catch the reference, here are the best 10 minutes you will ever waste on your life:

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https://youtu.be/MuOvqeABHvQ

Basically mirrors all the ludicrous activity on Wall Observer.

Including the hats.

Jesus. Where were you when I was on acid...

Haha, did you want a bad trip?

Try watching Baraka on acid, oh lord. I could only make it through 15 mins.

I watched Koyaanisqatsi on acid I think I can handle anything. But thanks for the recommendation, will watch next time I trip.
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October 21, 2018, 05:53:26 PM

Looks rainy, where you headin'?

Going to meet someone that has about 2,500 little puzzles they need to solve.  We will have a chat about whether I can solve them in a way that is economic for them and profitable for me.

Where you going ?
How does someone find themselves needing to solve 2500 puzzles?
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October 21, 2018, 05:55:28 PM

love ya guys!

Remember: Stay away from Bitmex while on acid.

You are the wind beneath my wings.

love ya guys!

Remember: Stay away from Bitmex while on acid.
Or make an acid trading stash.

I still have 1 and a half tabs left. Acid futures.
Always go long on acid futures.

 You should also go long on hats; at least they never lose their valueSPF.



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October 21, 2018, 06:19:09 PM

Done. Thanks for the hat.
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October 21, 2018, 06:28:42 PM

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already added with the rest of the collection  Grin
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October 21, 2018, 06:34:14 PM

@xhomerx10
Thanks! It's awesome!

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October 21, 2018, 06:39:44 PM

BTC always the first  Grin

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October 21, 2018, 06:53:00 PM

allways be aware for the side road "dead endings" stay on the main road.



That 'right' path rather looks like a segregated soft fork...

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October 21, 2018, 07:02:14 PM

BTC always the first  Grin


Text on the graph is wrong. Altcoins declined as well, just in proportion to their relatively low mentions compared to Bitcoin.
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October 21, 2018, 07:29:21 PM

This ATM is very bullish: $9,237 per BTC.  Cheesy

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October 21, 2018, 08:20:28 PM

Looks rainy, where you headin'?

Going to meet someone that has about 2,500 little puzzles they need to solve.  We will have a chat about whether I can solve them in a way that is economic for them and profitable for me.

Where you going ?
How does someone find themselves needing to solve 2500 puzzles?

Puzzles may be a euphemism for something else, but hey... if anyone has 2,500 issues, is prepared to pay to solve them - and Hairy thinks he can, then you can't blame him for jumping on a plane to check it out.  

And good luck to him!
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October 21, 2018, 08:22:03 PM

I don't know how some of your guys stumble upon your avatars but it's getting really difficult to find the remaining few I need to complete the set. 
 
 Case in point: poolminor

https://pikabu.ru/story/seksologiya_dlya_detey_5245732

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And here i thought that his avatar can't get any more disturbing, i stand corrected
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October 21, 2018, 08:34:25 PM

@StartupAnalyst  you seems to miss something. Term cryptocurencies is extremely wide and coinmarketcap.com stretch it to the max.  In case of your picture it is that Bitcoin maximalists and maximalists of coins that are at least in basics built the way as Satoshi build Bitcoin. So secured by Proof of Stake and Decentralized. Will always believe XRP and many many other coins and tokens are simply not a concurrency If not use some other word for it.
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October 21, 2018, 08:38:41 PM

Looks rainy, where you headin'?

Going to meet someone that has about 2,500 little puzzles they need to solve.  We will have a chat about whether I can solve them in a way that is economic for them and profitable for me.

Where you going ?
How does someone find themselves needing to solve 2500 puzzles?

Puzzles may be a euphemism for something else, but hey... if anyone has 2,500 issues, is prepared to pay to solve them - and Hairy thinks he can, then you can't blame him for jumping on a plane to check it out.  

And good luck to him!
Getting paid to solve puzzles sounds fun.
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October 21, 2018, 08:55:53 PM

Its just you and me left Mic.  The last bulls left standing in the WO.  Bitcoin is pushing hard out from under the bear triangle.  Go Bitcoin Go !
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October 21, 2018, 08:59:44 PM

^
Haha keep changing avatar , but still refuse a Proper HAT ..... Roll Eyes

Or just searching for a perfect pic. ?

Thought the original was perfect  Wink
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October 21, 2018, 09:16:56 PM

Text on the graph is wrong. Altcoins declined as well, just in proportion to their relatively low mentions compared to Bitcoin.

It's like they chose a completely arbitrary text to accompany the graph. Might as well have said the chart demonstrates how the dinosaurs were made extinct by the Chicxulub impact event.
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