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Question: How much of your corn do you plan on cashing out in the next massive bull run?
None - 27 (20.3%)
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21-30% - 19 (14.3%)
31-40% - 7 (5.3%)
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81-90% - 2 (1.5%)
91-99% - 3 (2.3%)
100% - 10 (7.5%)
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are you going to really, discriminate the difference between actively trading on a daily basis, vs adjusting his position as the fucking asset tanks? man you're showing your inner lambchop today.
Not my problem you don't know what trading is: I'm not the one discriminating between timeframes.

BTW, as I understand it, the context of this audio recording is that he slipped up before that on some Teamspeak channel, and the shitstorm came over him via a couple Reddit threads. So, lots of backpedaling is to be expected.

Are you telling me that such things should not be investigated, and that exchanges shouldn't publish a ruleset how they deal with such conflicts of interest? Hell, even the Micky Mouse Magic the Gathering exchange always claimed that they forbid their employees from trading there.

I am about not trying to incite witch hunts on small bits of info in an informal teamspeak chat, but I don't doubt we need more oversight into these situations.

http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/2t3iz5/bitfinex_cso_phillip_g_potter_admits_to_trading/cnw41fk?context=3

Hey Guys,

This is Josh Rossi, VP of Business Development at Bitfinex, some of my initial comments were referenced below. The word "trade" has multiple meanings, and is thrown around a lot, and I just want to clarify a few points that have come up.

    The bio information that was linked to is based on an old bio that was incorrectly written on the tether.to beta site. Phil was managing a fund that was invested in cryptocurrencies, but ceased day to day trading activities upon starting his role at Bitfinex, which roughly coincided with the fall of Mt Gox.

    The entire management team monitors our personal accounts, in order to prevent abuse, and we all act as checks and balances on each other. The idea that someone who works in Bitcoin shouldn't be able to own or adjust his position in bitcoin is silly. Bitcoin is not a publicly traded company, it is an asset. Any orders Phil may have placed would have been limit orders, and subject to the rest of the management teams monitoring. To be very clear, Phil has not been actively trading since joining the team at Bitfinex. That being said, and given the volatility of bitcoin, it is necessary to adjust one's exposure. We spend a lot of time trying to build the best exchange, and we definitely do hold and are bullish on bitcoin. There is a difference between a "trade" in the sense of being a day trader or actively trading positions, and executing a limit order, which is basically a passive buy or a sell of the asset in question.

    We have become the number one USD exchange, specifically, because we have made it our top priority to provide a fair and even playing field. We engage with our clients and the community and try to be as transparent as possible. We hold ourselves, and each other to the highest ethical standards.

Basically, we are very excited about the future of cryptocurrencies, and are honored that we can be a part of the core infrastructure. We are in it for the long haul, Bitfinex has been around for quite a while. We have consistently proven that we will not sell out our future for a quick buck now.


If enough people share your displeasure they best change their policy, otherwise as always in the bitcoin world user beware.

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It's been a while...lol I got caught up in voice chats....still HODLING though.
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It's been a while...lol I got caught up in voice chats....still HODLING though.
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My state just legalized marijuana, so I have that to keep me entertained for the next three years, I guess.

I reckon you need to be living in Michigan tho.

Not sure it's worth the tradeoff.  Undecided

Nope    Cry
When I hit my BTC valuation target, I'm getting the hell out of here.

Huh?  What is the approximate BTC price for such flight?  $50k?  $100k?  $1million?

My plan was to sell half at 100K and let the rest ride. Do you have a sell target for your long-term stash?

Starting in about early 2014, I was already engaging in quite a bit of working out "on paper" my various cashing out strategies, like some of my posts described in the SSS thread

So for example, I was thinking that there were going to be various BTC price points in which I would take out large quantities of cash, but with the passage of time, including my actually experiencing how my incremental cashing out plan was working, I figured that I did not really need to make really large cash outs, in terms of percentages because largely, incrementalism was going to be very likely to go above and beyond my actual needs.

Don't get me wrong, there might be sporadic times in which I might consider something that I would like to buy or invest in which would cause me to cash out a decent amount of bitcoin in order to accomplish such purchase/investment.  So, in that regard, I would not even mind cashing out some bitcoins at $6k if some need were to arise.  On the other hand, my time horizon remains at least 5-10 years, so it seems to me that incrementalism is going to continue to serve me during that time, whether the BTC price goes to $10k, $30k, $50k, $100k or more.

Also, don't get me wrong, there is going to be a decent amount of temptation to take out some value in the $50k to $100k range, but we are going to need to see whether the price is then feeling "toppy."  A funny thing about when we are in a kind of toppy area, such as nearing $20k, there is a bit inside of us that does not quit appreciate the then "topiness" of the matter.


By the way, from our various posts, I understand that you are quite a bit younger than me, but there does come a real questionable matter about starting some kind of systematic withdrawal of principle when getting to a certain age or perhaps some health conditions could cause that kind of perspective, so I will likely reach that kind of timeline much before you, but I am still thinking that I have 5-10 years before I really need to consider when to engage such part of my plan (which are a bit differing circumstances for guys (and gal) who might be thinking that they have at least 20 years before they need to get into that stage of their financial planning dynamics).


My plan was to sell half at 100K and let the rest ride.

I was waiting for 100 trillion per coin.

From time to time, troll nocoiners can be quite hilarious, so I see why you keep this loser dweeb around, infofront... hahahaha   Wink
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November 08, 2018, 11:14:30 PM

China Lifts Bitcoin Ban; Individuals and Businesses Can Now Own Cryptocurrencies Legally

https://www.btcnn.com/china-lifts-bitcoin-ban-individuals-and-businesses-can-now-own-cryptocurrencies-legally/

When ban again?
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November 08, 2018, 11:16:34 PM

China Lifts Bitcoin Ban; Individuals and Businesses Can Now Own Cryptocurrencies Legally

https://www.btcnn.com/china-lifts-bitcoin-ban-individuals-and-businesses-can-now-own-cryptocurrencies-legally/

When ban again?

when FUD is needed


meh, back to 6400 @the moment Roll Eyes
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China Lifts Bitcoin Ban; Individuals and Businesses Can Now Own Cryptocurrencies Legally

https://www.btcnn.com/china-lifts-bitcoin-ban-individuals-and-businesses-can-now-own-cryptocurrencies-legally/

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sorry complete fake, stale non-news. we had all this. https://twitter.com/katherineykwu/status/1055638522349191168
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Dear fellows,

I as "erre" was here from 2013. I was a regular lurker of this thread and a relatively rare poster here, but I think someone could remember me for the bet with proudhon or for some other shitposting. I have some emotional bond with this forum, despite the very low overall quality.

In May 2018 my account was hacked. I have full proof of ownership according to the rules and more, but after an initial response from Cyrus I was not able to make any more contact with him or Theymos.

I made a thread in meta (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3652698.new#new) which was locked a little time ago, so I made another thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065918.0), but I'm really getting demotivated now and I rarely post because I feel uncomfortable without my "skin" and my story.

I know that there are a lot of influent/known members writing and lurking here, so since the price is going sideways and there are no walls to observe I really hope that someone could spend some of his time helping me, I need to drag some admin's attention.

Thank you

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Yes, I remember you. I also remember when your account was hacked and I helped you locate your old messages with posted signature. I thought you would have recovered it long ago, since everything looked ok (signature verified ok).

Now I am rereading the "recovery" thread and am surprised by this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3652698.msg44512640#msg44512640

If someone of the "weight" of hilariousetc can't make it get done I don't know who could (besides Theymos and Cyrus themselves). He seems to be speaking quite frankly when he says no accounts are being recovered lately even when meeting all requirements. Which is bummer to say the least.

Maybe someone else can shed some more light over what could be done here or someone that has had success in recovering his account recently?


Thank you and all the others for the responses. I think that they just don't bother, what piss me off is that Cyrus initially responded, and asked: "are you still in possession on the original email?" and I replied "yes". Like 20 times. For months.

What can I do to have some attention from admins? I think that hi-rank mods should have a way to contact them other then PMs, or maybe somebody knows them in real life or some other circuit... I even thought to sue the forum or ddos them, but unfortunately btc didn't made me so rich (still). I didn't even spam, because I think it's useless, but I don't want to give up.
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China Lifts Bitcoin Ban; Individuals and Businesses Can Now Own Cryptocurrencies Legally

https://www.btcnn.com/china-lifts-bitcoin-ban-individuals-and-businesses-can-now-own-cryptocurrencies-legally/

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love it.
love that old man Xi hates being called Pooh
free Tibet free East Turkestan free Southern Mongolia Free China
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love it.
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HAHA very nice, going to HODLcave on rest .......  and nice to go with that gif on my mind LOL

+1WO merit , got emptied cause that crazy time @the other thread last evening Roll Eyes

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^night goose Wink

Meanwhile in other fake news https://coingeek.com/former-blockstream-cto-gregory-maxwell-sees-light/ https://archive.is/aDswR
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9vaqn4/guys_im_going_to_say_it_bitcoin_sv_is_an_attempt/ https://archive.is/bhanD

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Gregory Maxwell, co-founder and former CTO of the Bitcoin Core (BTC) institution Blockstream, has had a change of heart. For reasons yet unknown, the crypto expert has come to the realization that Bitcoin SV is the real Bitcoin, and has even offered to lend a hand. He penned an email to Dr. Craig Wright of nChain and Bitcoin BCH development, in which he mentioned that he was prepared to offer his “discreet assistance.” Better late than never, it’s good to see that Maxwell has finally come around. Here is his email, formatted to make reading easier.
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November 09, 2018, 01:07:10 AM

Dear fellows,

I as "erre" was here from 2013. I was a regular lurker of this thread and a relatively rare poster here, but I think someone could remember me for the bet with proudhon or for some other shitposting. I have some emotional bond with this forum, despite the very low overall quality.

In May 2018 my account was hacked. I have full proof of ownership according to the rules and more, but after an initial response from Cyrus I was not able to make any more contact with him or Theymos.

I made a thread in meta (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3652698.new#new) which was locked a little time ago, so I made another thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065918.0), but I'm really getting demotivated now and I rarely post because I feel uncomfortable without my "skin" and my story.

I know that there are a lot of influent/known members writing and lurking here, so since the price is going sideways and there are no walls to observe I really hope that someone could spend some of his time helping me, I need to drag some admin's attention.

Thank you

erre

Yes, I remember you. I also remember when your account was hacked and I helped you locate your old messages with posted signature. I thought you would have recovered it long ago, since everything looked ok (signature verified ok).

Now I am rereading the "recovery" thread and am surprised by this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3652698.msg44512640#msg44512640

If someone of the "weight" of hilariousetc can't make it get done I don't know who could (besides Theymos and Cyrus themselves). He seems to be speaking quite frankly when he says no accounts are being recovered lately even when meeting all requirements. Which is bummer to say the least.

Maybe someone else can shed some more light over what could be done here or someone that has had success in recovering his account recently?


Thank you and all the others for the responses. I think that they just don't bother, what piss me off is that Cyrus initially responded, and asked: "are you still in possession on the original email?" and I replied "yes". Like 20 times. For months.

What can I do to have some attention from admins? I think that hi-rank mods should have a way to contact them other then PMs, or maybe somebody knows them in real life or some other circuit... I even thought to sue the forum or ddos them, but unfortunately btc didn't made me so rich (still). I didn't even spam, because I think it's useless, but I don't want to give up.


If you ever had a Bitcoin address associated with your account you can always sign a message with that key as proof.
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If you ever had a Bitcoin address associated with your account you can always sign a message with that key as proof.

He did, it matched. It seems no accounts are being recovered since before the summer even if you follow the procedure. Bummer.
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My plan was to sell half at 100K and let the rest ride. Do you have a sell target for your long-term stash?

Nice round number. But it might be prudent to choose a number that's not too round. To beat the crowd, you know... I bet lots of people think selling the day we hit 100K.

Before JJG comes back I will state the obvious: It's better to go selling in a laddered manner, ie: Beginning in small quantities from ie. below $50K all the way up.. maybe even rebuying some at the customary dips on the road.

Would be a shame if price stopped short of $99K before the next bear market without having sold shit.

But I guess infofront already knows that and was just setting some theoretical milestone for being half fiat half Bitcoin.

I am mostly sure it will take more than one bull run and subsequent bear markets to reach $100K. So better prepare for that too.

I agree with you both. In the last bull run, I just sat back and HEDL. In the next one, I'll try laddered sells when we go parabolic. If I end up with less than my target amount, I'd try to buy on the way down and increase my stash.

I mentioned this in a post a few days ago, but let's say, for example, your target is to have 5 bitcoins that you hold from $10k to $100k (something like that), instead, you buy 6 BTC and then you have a bit extra BTC that you won't feel any kind of emotional attachment when you end up getting rid of it - because it was extra.  Of course, you can use whatever ratio makes you feel comfortable, and surely you have to be careful NOT to end up engaging in sloppy personal finances because you chose to invest 20% or so more than your original plan...   So, for example, you want to make sure that you have all the essentials covered including living expenses, including entertainment and an emergency fund.. but maybe you cut back on going out to eat, so instead of going out three times a week, you only go out two.. or some other overspending that you might be able to relatively comfortably divert into bitcoin.... another example might be that you buy a new car every few years, to buy a toyota instead of a lexus or instead buy a car that is 3 years old rather than a new one.. just to consider as a temporary measure that is deferred gratification and does not really affect you in any kind of meaningful negative way.
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November 09, 2018, 01:16:28 AM

Just remember...when selling you get hit with tax consequences (in the US).

So selling a big chunk is not the best strategy (unless you're just in it for the fiat and supporting your benevolent government with more money).

Personally I was able to retire and I can pull out $35k of my bitcoin every year tax free. I don't have to work the rest of my life.

To me that seemed a bit more important than anything I could cash out and buy.
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So, it being Thursday and all, I just want to make sure everyone remembers that this recently happened...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg47666946#msg47666946

I don’t have anything against JJG at all, he’s pro bitcoin & to me that makes him alright. I just can not read through his walls of text at times.

His grave head stone will say -

Here lies JJG
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I have similar feelings.  I hardly ever read my own stuff, and if I ever hear myself on a recording, I become repulsed.

On the other hand, I do tend to look at myself in the mirror, except if there is someone more handsome nearby.. then I will tend to look at the more handsome fella.. while admittedly attempting a compare / contrast.  If there happens to be a handsome fella and a decently looking chick, I will gravitate towards the chick, unless the guy happens to look a lot better.   
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