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Question: When will bitcoin reach the top of this bull market (i.e. when will it moon)?
Topped at $13,880 in June - 10 (6.6%)
H2 2019 - 15 (9.9%)
H1 2020 - 29 (19.2%)
H2 2020 - 28 (18.5%)
H1 2021 - 12 (7.9%)
H2 2021 - 29 (19.2%)
H1 2022 - 6 (4%)
H2 2022 - 4 (2.6%)
H1 2023 - 0 (0%)
H2 2023 - 3 (2%)
2024 or Later - 15 (9.9%)
Total Voters: 151

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November 18, 2018, 04:31:01 AM



You know what happens when you're caught on the wrong side of history?

Nothing...you're dead. Doesn't matter to you by then. Don't worry about what future historians will say, they're likely to be ignorant twats.
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November 18, 2018, 06:07:10 AM

Ironically, jbreher and peterr are now in opposing camps of the "hashwar".

As I have said several times, I have a soft preference for SV. But I can live with ABC as well.

But whatevs. I have a sneaking suspicion the hash war has barely had its first skirmish. We shall see.
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November 18, 2018, 06:31:12 AM



You know what happens when you're caught on the wrong side of history?

Nothing...you're dead. Doesn't matter to you by then. Don't worry about what future historians will say, they're likely to be ignorant twats.
Or. You die.

Imagine if you happened to be a ruski, and you saw the fifty million corpses about to be stacked up ahead of time. Wouldn't that be an advantage, a being on the right side of history? Well, most were not.
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November 18, 2018, 07:05:48 AM
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Bcash... What a forking mess...

I'm glad I stayed clear of this shitcoin (and its cancerous byproducts)...

BTC has dropped a lot, yes. But even now, my net gain is far beyond my wildest dreams, as I'm sure is the case with most true HoDLers. Just imagine what will happen when Carolina wakes up and the Choo-Choo starts moving again... And it will.

Keep HoDLing, keep your keys secured, and lose those (BTC) keyrings, you don't want anyone to know what you own (remember the $5 wrench method)!
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November 18, 2018, 07:36:51 AM

Stress Test Results

ABC mempool: https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#2,24h

SV mempool: https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#3,24h

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November 18, 2018, 09:04:11 AM

Ironically, jbreher and peterr are now in opposing camps of the "hashwar".

As I have said several times, I have a soft preference for SV. But I can live with ABC as well.

But whatevs. I have a sneaking suspicion the hash war has barely had its first skirmish. We shall see.

Well part of my earlier question, that caused bitserve to make that comment, related to attempting to get your thinking about hedging your bets with a seeming sinking ship that is likely losing value overall relative to bitcoin - and likely to continue to do so because it seems to be made up of a bunch of misfits who cannot figure out how to compromise on anything.... while also having had established a culture that both encourages forks and bullshit like that and believes that there is something broken about the high consensus requirements of bitcoin that actually cause bitcoin to be difficult to change, but ultimately stable in terms of forks not really gaining much of any of its value, at least so far. 

Anyhow, it would be nice to hear about how guys like you and PeterR are considering or reconsidering their various allocations including allocating towards various bcash forks and allocating towards bitcoin.  I wonder if PeterR is still evangelizing 50/50 for example or some kind of equivalent allocation in each of the shit forks as well as maintaining bitcoin at a certain equivalent ration .. which really does not make a lot of sense when you get into the grit of it.. I mean who would want to put much of anything in any of those forks.. maybe beyond 10% of the value of the bitcoin.. but if some guys have a really lot of wealth that they have accumulated, they might be willing to gamble more of it, perhaps?  Doesn't seem prudent, even if you are rich.. but hey, pumps could sometimes pay off, I suppose
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November 18, 2018, 09:06:24 AM


What does it mean?  Can you explain your links?
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November 18, 2018, 11:23:23 AM

Today I'm going along with the "It's all manipulation, whales are in control" school of thought.

So I got to think that we won't get back to 8k and beyond without a violent, swift, scary long squeeze. Hairy suggested Tuesday or earlier. Jojo said maybe later. My SOMA timeframe is somewhat longer, but I am still hopeful we might be done by year's end.
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November 18, 2018, 11:31:05 AM

Today I'm going along with the "It's all manipulation, whales are in control" school of thought.

So I got to think that we won't get back to 8k and beyond without a violent, swift, scary long squeeze. Hairy suggested Tuesday or earlier. Jojo said maybe later. My SOMA timeframe is somewhat longer, but I am still hopeful we might be done by year's end.
Always keep the HOPIUM thought like Maybe the worst is already been played.....
Its just the Nice thing about BTC everything is possible
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November 18, 2018, 01:34:57 PM

World’s First Crypto ETF to be Listed Next Week in EU

https://www.chepicap.com/en/news/5281/world-s-first-crypto-etf-approved-in-switzerland.html

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An ETP is the umbrella term under which ETF's belong, which is a specific product-type within this wider range. The general tendency both in the marketplace and the media is to use ETF and ETP as perfectly interchangeable terms.

https://twitter.com/IamNomad/status/1063851395827273729?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1063851395827273729&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chepicap.com%2Fen%2Fnews%2F5281%2Fworld-s-first-crypto-etf-approved-in-switzerland.html



From  one of the images, it looked like about 50% and then the rest is a mixture of various shitcoins, including etherum, bcash, litecoin and ripple.  In fact a lot of  shitty ripple.



Do they reapportion from time to time?  Seems a bit crazy to diversify so much into bullshit, and if there were some kind of reason that justified a preference for a ETF rather than buying bitcoin directly, then at least 75% in bitcoin would feel a bit more comfortable (rather than getting caught up with too much extra risk with various shit-projects), at least from my perspective.
To be fair I understand everything from a pure investor and investment point of view. Just Bitcoin would be missing out on potential profits.
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November 18, 2018, 01:43:09 PM

Well, there's a lot going on with the chain: Blockchain.info is reporting 3,000 tps.

Summary    Status:Connected
Total Fees    270.12662831 BTC
Total Size    1646533.03 (KB)
Transactions Per Second    3000.71

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/unconfirmed-transactions

Even if their math is crocked, this is way higher than the normal 3-15 tps.
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November 18, 2018, 01:50:57 PM

Well, there's a lot going on with the chain: Blockchain.info is reporting 3,000 tps.

Summary    Status:Connected
Total Fees    270.12662831 BTC
Total Size    1646533.03 (KB)
Transactions Per Second    3000.71

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/unconfirmed-transactions

Even if their math is crocked, this is way higher than the normal 3-15 tps.
Is that spam or something stirring?

From a sabotage point of view, spam looks mostly useless at the moment (it would have made sense a week or so ago). But what do I know? Come on, WO pundits, offer your take on this!
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November 18, 2018, 01:54:44 PM
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Man, the name "BCHABC" is funny as hell. Roll Eyes



Let's hard fork Bitcoin Cash ABC for Bitcoin Hat (BCHHAT).

What do you guys say?
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November 18, 2018, 01:55:01 PM

To be fair I understand everything from a pure investor and investment point of view. Just Bitcoin would be missing out on potential profits.

You spelled "losses" wrong there.
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November 18, 2018, 02:03:56 PM

Well, there's a lot going on with the chain: Blockchain.info is reporting 3,000 tps.

Summary    Status:Connected
Total Fees    270.12662831 BTC
Total Size    1646533.03 (KB)
Transactions Per Second    3000.71

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/unconfirmed-transactions

Even if their math is crocked, this is way higher than the normal 3-15 tps.
Is that spam or something stirring?

From a sabotage point of view, spam looks mostly useless at the moment (it would have made sense a week or so ago). But what do I know? Come on, WO pundits, offer your take on this!
Well, it does spike around, but it is odd....
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November 18, 2018, 02:37:27 PM

@Ibian: "Lifehack don't go down on girls". You sound like a muslim, you know? Maybe reevaluate, depending on the girl.

@QuestionAuthority: "I fear going down on a girl that I think is clean". I think you can validate your assessment of cleanliness quite soon, unless you have a serious cold. Amended lifehack: don't go down on a girl you don't know if you have a serious cold!  Tongue

I only go down on Muslim truck drivers, but only when they haven't got out their driving seat for 12 straight hours and the ambient temp remains above 40c.

The musky film they sport is truly heavenly, better than the finest foie gras.

 For your hat, based on this post, I selected the colours Azure, Purpure and Or from the list of heraldic colours, approved by His Majesty's College of Arms.  Oh, and I added a few misplaced commas, to make you wonder.



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November 18, 2018, 02:39:39 PM

When scammers like Ver, Wu and Wright decide to make Bictoin centralized, they make forks:
BCH - fake real bitcoin
BCHSV - fake real fake bitcoin
BCHABC - fake real real bitcoin
BCHABCBU - fake real real fake bitcoin
BCHABCEDF - fake real real fake real bitcoin
BCHABCEDFSV-  fake real real fake fake bitcoin
and so on... to
BCHABC...XYZ
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November 18, 2018, 02:47:52 PM



Seems legit to me, let us always have a good sleep.
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November 18, 2018, 03:22:03 PM

When scammers like Ver, Wu and Wright decide to make Bictoin centralized, they make forks:
BCH - fake real bitcoin
BCHSV - fake real fake bitcoin
BCHABC - fake real real bitcoin
BCHABCBU - fake real real fake bitcoin
BCHABCEDF - fake real real fake real bitcoin
BCHABCEDFSV-  fake real real fake fake bitcoin
and so on... to
BCHABC...XYZ


seems like they have f£$$%d it up!
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