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[HairyMaclairy]

Truly, it is the end of days.

I know you were being trite, but this attitude is part of the problem

“Rome is burning anyway so we may as well fiddle”

This isn’t the end of days. There is no Second Coming.  We still have a perfectly healthy planet.  Yes there is a debt problem.  Guess what - the US government could just default and start over again.  Lots of countries default.  No one gives a shit except the bond holders. Yes pensioners would be rekt.   But they get screwed anyway.  And the baby boomers have fucked everyone else so a bit of back pay wouldn’t go astray.  

There are lots of relatively simple solutions staring us in the face.  Solar.  Batteries.  Hydro. Geothermal.  Efficiency.  We just need the will to implement them.  And we are getting there.  Just we have to deal with some bad actor politicians (and the PACs that fund them) along the way.  

[Toxic2040]

Just looked at Craig Wright’s Twitter & his tweets are now ‘protected’. You can only see them if you follow him.
I wonder why he’s done that, too much trolling?
When can we declare BCH & SV absolute, 100% failures?

epic peace in stepbrother LoL

Hard to call when said entities possess 10 figure pry bars..but I would have to say the writing is on the wall. I suppose it will be in 2020 when it all become much more apparent.

I don't know this author or this rag..but interesting none the less.

https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2018/12/etoro-to-pay-out-bitcoin-sv-holders-in-fiat-currency-not-obligated-to-support-forks/

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Apologies for veering into politics, but this is my number one problem with conservatives. They aren’t conservative enough.

They don’t give a damn about any problem that is more than 10 years in the future.  Including problems they are creating today.

Classic example:  a conservative faction was elected to the local government.  One of the first things they did was allow a tire waste dump to be created next to the airport.  The dump had been blocked previously.  But the conservatives were “cutting red tape”.

Of course the tire dump is an aviation hazard if it ever caught fire.  So the owner is “bankrupt” and now the dump is being cleared out at taxpayer expense.  And the conservative politicians that approved it are long gone. It happens over and over again, private profit at taxpayer expense. 

The hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty on both sides has reached comical levels.  What passes for "discourse" begins at essentialization and name-calling, devolving from there.

This is one of the, very few, forums where I have actually witnessed anyone reconsider an entrenched belief.

Truly, it is the end of days.

No apology necessary or wanted...except from corrupt politicians and corporate shills.

Its like this government shut down the USA is having right now...everyone involved needs to be fired..period. Its like a kindergarten class or worse perhaps..."I am not going to talk to you anymore because you are saying something I dont like".

These are the "supposed" leaders of the free world...smh.

[Last of the V8s]

That was the dip. Now we rip up.

[Biodom]

Truly, it is the end of days.

Yes pensioners would be rekt.   But they get screwed anyway.

Very few people in US are getting (or will be getting) a pension.
Those who do, typically have a "bad" pension.
49% income coverage  vs 63% for OECD.
Just numbers:
http://www.oecd.org/publications/oecd-pensions-at-a-glance-19991363.htm

The "screw" part still applies.

I plan to work as long as I can, probably.

[ivomm]

Watching the silver price slowly fall back to $6 over the next decade will be even worse.

  That's actually a shocking speed in reduction of supply for a resource we actually need, unlike bitcoins which nobody actually needs for anything.

You lying little low T basement dweller, your favorite website(according to you the realest website online) dailystormer.name https://www.ccn.com/hate-pays-neo-nazi-site-daily-stormer-has-raised-surprising-amount-of-bitcoin/ needs and gladly uses Bitcoin for funding because it was censored all over the world by payment processors and metals are too primitive for them to use online. Once again your typical anti Bitcoin arguments are mentally ill gibberish or lies. As we climb to 100k you will sink lower and lower into insanity as I laugh at you Currently many sane people are nocoiners, but in the future the vast majority of nocoiners will in fact be the mentally ill, you are a pioneer of sorts Virgin Roach.

I don't know to laugh or to pity this lost soul COCKr0ach. It reminds me of some guy I knew, who slowly developed schizophrenia with exactly the same symptoms. One day he drowned himself because of his demons. RIP. Regarding this BS statement: shocking speed in reduction of supply [for the silver I guess]. This is either a wet dream or a manipulation lie. There is not even a slightest reduction in the supply and never will be. As for the price, 20 years at least are needed for the bear market to come to a halt. And even then no upward movement is guaranteed. As for the second statement: unlike bitcoins which nobody actually needs for anything. This is so true as to say that men need only food, and money are just useless paper. With that logic, silver is also not needed, except if you want to tie it around your neck and throw yourself in the water, like the guy I knew. May be writing BS posts here is the last step before this painful destiny, I guess. Imagine that - Bitcoin price went from 175$ where it bottomed in Jan 2015 (around the time our scizo-r0ach sold) and reached 20K$ in Dec 2017. At the same time r0ach bought silver because, you know, it is very useful to keep it in his basement. And the price crashed from 45 to 10$. And like a drawning guy catching a straw, he hopes some n00b can be influenced by his scizo arguments and buy silver to become like him - poor and mad.

[El duderino_]

Marcus Anonymint's posts...I mean "lambie slayer", are just too dumb to respond to now.  Micgoossens, you wouldn't happen to be a mechanical engineer?

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/aa2x42/well_lads_it_happened/

actual evidence/footage of r0ach after a day @the WO

[Toxic2040]

That was the dip. Now we rip up.

A retest of $3.81k for support might happen first...just sayin.

[Last of the V8s]

franky vs maxwell is getting q entertaining

...I think I've made more than a fair effort in correcting these misunderstandings. I hope someone else will pick up the torch before the posters[sic] persistence spreads the misunderstanding further and perhaps ultimately demoralizes the developers to the point where we give up on this completely uncompensated voluntary work improving the protocol.

[d_eddie]

That was the dip. Now we rip up.

A retest of $3.81k for support might happen first...just sayin.

It might be even worse than that, actually.

[d_eddie]

franky vs maxwell is getting q entertaining

...I think I've made more than a fair effort in correcting these misunderstandings. I hope someone else will pick up the torch before the posters[sic] persistence spreads the misunderstanding further and perhaps ultimately demoralizes the developers to the point where we give up on this completely uncompensated voluntary work improving the protocol.

The most interesting bit is the bitch in the background filming the whole scene - as if one video operator wasn't enough.

[Last of the V8s]

That was the dip. Now we rip up.

A retest of $3.81k for support might happen first...just sayin.

finex prices right?
maybe but

[samson]

That was the dip. Now we rip up.

A retest of $3.81k for support might happen first...just sayin.

It might be even worse than that, actually.

I expect it to be much worse that that. This 'up' action is no bull run. Not a chance.

[Last of the V8s]

That was the dip. Now we rip up.

A retest of $3.81k for support might happen first...just sayin.

It might be even worse than that, actually.

I expect it to be much worse that that. This 'up' action is no bull run. Not a chance.

Obviously not. I'm only guessing at another leg up tonight without any more pullback. Medium and long term is clearly very bearish.

[El duderino_]

That was the dip. Now we rip up.

A retest of $3.81k for support might happen first...just sayin.

It might be even worse than that, actually.

I expect it to be much worse that that. This 'up' action is no bull run. Not a chance.

Obviously not. I'm only guessing at another leg up tonight without any more pullback. Medium and long term is clearly very bearish.

LONGterm never has been bearish

Of to HODLrest
Eyes falling down ..... good night WO hodlers

[Last of the V8s]

gah. you're right. tired here too. medium term lol. sleep tight

[infofront]

No apology necessary or wanted...except from corrupt politicians and corporate shills.

Its like this government shut down the USA is having right now...everyone involved needs to be fired..period. Its like a kindergarten class or worse perhaps..."I am not going to talk to you anymore because you are saying something I dont like".

These are the "supposed" leaders of the free world...smh.

The biggest problem I see with the partial government shutdown is that it won't be permanent. The other problem is that it's too small in scope.

[Last of the V8s]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-28/arrival-credit-crisis
forecasting a bumpy road ahead

[HairyMaclairy]

No apology necessary or wanted...except from corrupt politicians and corporate shills.

Its like this government shut down the USA is having right now...everyone involved needs to be fired..period. Its like a kindergarten class or worse perhaps..."I am not going to talk to you anymore because you are saying something I dont like".

These are the "supposed" leaders of the free world...smh.

The biggest problem I see with the partial government shutdown is that it won't be permanent. The other problem is that it's too small in scope.

You could always just move somewhere without a functional government. Parts of Somalia and Afghanistan would
be obvious choices.  Or maybe the Papua New Guinea jungle? The outer islands of the Solomons are pretty lawless.  And you could go today.   It’s not like they have a government to stop you.

Edit:  a handy list is here

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Fragile_States_Index

[marcus_of_augustus]

... ever seen what happens to a solar array in a golf-ball sized hailstorm?

http://joannenova.com.au/2018/12/sydney-hail-storm-just-how-hailproof-are-those-solar-panels/
bonus solar nirvana debunkhttp://joannenova.com.au/2018/12/fireman-warns-solar-powered-batteries-may-cause-ferocious-fires/

Just more risks/costs that coal, oil, gas, nuclear plants are robust against or have amortised/solved already ... no-one has all the answers and the biggest problem are those that think they do and assume authority above the natural market of ideas and solutions to enforce their will on others. At huge expense for everyone inevitably.

http://joannenova.com.au/2018/12/new-report-renewables-indirectly-make-electricity-more-expensive-so-abc-tells-australia-the-opposite/

The environmentalism cult in it's current pseudo-scientific/romantic form has become a plague upon humanity, there is no doubt about it that now. A descent into superstition and romanticism seems to be accelerating with the collapse of the fiat/debt monetary regimes (based on economics faking as science anyway) ... things are not as bad as being lied about but large coastal populations are prone to regular disasters (fossil history is quite definitive about that), so disasters are always in the 'news'.

The planet is as 'healthy' (whatever subjective gaia bullshit that means) as it has ever been, and in fact Earth is quite agnostic about the state of it's inhabitants. Any large asteroid strike, geomagnetic reversal, geomagnetic collapse, true polar wander, X-class solar flare strike, or supervolcanic eruption phase belittles all the pathetic, politically-motivated environmental alarmism when Earth's human habitability is viewed objectively.

http://joannenova.com.au/2018/12/in-2018-climate-change-caused-disastrous-loss-of-0-1-of-world-gdp/

Newsflash, the earth has barely warmed in 35 years (~0.2C at last measure) ...

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2018/12/2018-6th-warmest-year-globally-of-last-40/

and latest discovery of solar physics models points towards that we are heading into a grand solar minimum for the next 2-3 decades ... typically associated with longer, brutal winters and large-scale crop losses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_yqIj38UmY

[HairyMaclairy]

It’s a one in 20 year hailstorm on panels with an ROI of 3 years and an effective life of 10 years.   Not to mention the hailstorm only hit a small part of Sydney.  

As for the rest, it’s 2018.  Not believeing in science is only fashionable on YouTube conspiracy channels.   There’s no scientific proof rings as hollow as the cigarette companies that still claim there is no link between cigarette smoking and lung cancer.