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April 06, 2019, 11:50:20 PM


tail wag dog..dog wag tail..is good

Yes... it can be "good" as long as you don't lose track of which is which.
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April 06, 2019, 11:55:33 PM

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You don't know what you want. That's your problem.
I will try to help you:
-if you believe BTC will go up in the future and want to hold, buy at any price.
-if you think BTC can go down, buy and set a stop limit.
-if you are sure BTC will go down, sell what you have and buy later.

Anyone listening to a no-coiner roach's kissing cousin dweeb like rebal15 is bound to get roached, sooner or later.


Exhibit A:
Following the LTC chart to see when it follows, and how much.

you following LTC:fiat or LTC:BTC Arrie?

I find LTC:BTC very instructive

So hold is not a good solution, trade is better than hold.
You should listen to Mr Roach and try to decode his message.


Exhibit B:
Important WO Announcement: LTC is a Shitcoin

Important WO Announcement: LTC is a Shitcoin that can help you to get more Bitcoin.

Listen to rebal15, you will soon fit within the definition of: "a fool and his money are soon parted."
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April 06, 2019, 11:56:34 PM
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Important WO Announcement: increase your BTC stash

FTFY

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April 07, 2019, 12:05:09 AM

If you guys don't stop bashing Litecoin I will start shilling for it, because.... uhmmmm.... you know... faster blocks!!!
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April 07, 2019, 12:05:49 AM


Yep we seem to have a bit of an infiltration of peeps who are LTC distracted... a contagion is aloof.

Focus boys.  Focus ur selfies!!!!

Exhibit A:   - or would this be sarcasm, counter Exhibit NOT A?    I'm confused...  Embarrassed Embarrassed

If you guys don't stop bashing Litecoin I will start shilling for it, because... you know.... uhmmmm.... faster blocks! Smiley
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April 07, 2019, 12:11:36 AM

^ Sarcasm? So you are denying that Litecoin doesn't have faster blocks? Are you?

Get the fuck out of here with your seemingly core crippled bullshit!


P.S.: I am amazed by my magistral usage of (seemingly) confusing double negation above.
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April 07, 2019, 12:13:41 AM

^ Sarcasm? So you are denying that Litecoin doesn't have faster blocks? Are you?

Get the fuck out of here with your seemingly core crippled bullshit!

In my humble bumble opinion, there are too many guys here in this thread pumping that bullshit crapola and taking that off-topic irrelevance too seriously to be playing around with it... even though I do sufficiently get your point.

P.S.: I am amazed by my magistral usage of seemingly confusing double negation above.

It's called having fun and just letting the ideas fall where they will (aka slinging words).... ... while I am sure that you still got my points, even if they may have been ambiguously presented.
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April 07, 2019, 12:19:46 AM

^ Sarcasm? So you are denying that Litecoin doesn't have faster blocks? Are you?

Get the fuck out of here with your seemingly core crippled bullshit!

There are too many guys here pumping that bullshit crapola and taking that off-topic irrelevance seriously to be playing around... even though I do sufficiently get your point.

Good, please tell it to me, because I don't really get what my own point was. I was just being funny. Or trying to. Whatever comes first. YMMV.

Now that I really think about it... I could have a point... Litecoin halving is coming in a few months and no matter if you do or don't have any significant amount of LTC.... It will be an interesting event to watch and try to extrapolate to next Bitcoin halving.

Get used to it... not yet, not now, but it will come soon.
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April 07, 2019, 12:29:46 AM

reserve the order Lambos, Aston, Bentley... Cool

meh. I'm thinking more on the order of Cirrus or Epic.
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April 07, 2019, 12:40:33 AM

I have Dash, Zcash, Monero, Adex, Komod and SNT.
Make An important WO Announcement: increase your BTC stash when it's time.
I am not good on TA.
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April 07, 2019, 12:41:02 AM

^ Sarcasm? So you are denying that Litecoin doesn't have faster blocks? Are you?

Get the fuck out of here with your seemingly core crippled bullshit!

There are too many guys here pumping that bullshit crapola and taking that off-topic irrelevance seriously to be playing around... even though I do sufficiently get your point.

Good, please tell it to me, because I don't really get what my own point was. I was just being funny. Or trying to. Whatever comes first. YMMV.

Now that I really think about it... I could have a point... Litecoin halving is coming in a few months and no matter if you do or don't have any significant amount of LTC.... It will be an interesting event to watch and try to extrapolate to next Bitcoin halving.

Get used to it... not yet, not now, but it will come soon.

Yes, if you buy the theory about possible litecoin pumpening  being somehow a significant enough indicator regarding bitcoin's future price performance..... whatever... you are right.. members are going to place different values regarding what is important to talk about or focus on and/or whether they believe it is sufficiently enough related to this thread in order to NOT become annoying when there are other threads out there about the litecoin talking points.. so I personally question why to waste such time here.. but you seem to be more receptive along with other guys and perhaps gal.
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April 07, 2019, 12:42:17 AM

Saturday report

Apparently we have numerous boating enthusiasts amongst the faithful serving at the Wall.

In appreciation of the hard efforts and loyalty demonstrated on a daily basis by these tireless volunteers we are having a naval exhibition in your honor. If everyone is present you can board the small launch you see there in front of you. Yes, that one right there. As you can see..there is a safety locker right there..a very sturdy lead lined safety locker I might add. Yep..thats the one..right on the very rear edge of this small pleasure craft. Please feel free to place all valuable items inside the locker such as you might have with you...paper wallets, trezors, usb sticks and any private seeds...really anything you think necessary. We will begin this journey with a small jaunt across the water to rendezvous with the mother ship.
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oh look!  squirrel...coming along for the ride.
4h


Now that we have arrived at our destination ladies and gentlemen my I please direct you attention to the gantry to the right. Yep..thats the one..please make your way aboard where crew will direct you to quarters.

...I hate to even mention it..really..but for the record you see...ehem. Apparently there was a small incident crossing the bay..I sure it was nothing really..please pay no attention to me..enjoy your stay aboard.
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April 07, 2019, 12:43:43 AM

I have Dash, Zcash, Monero, Adex, Komod and SNT.
Make An important WO Announcement: increase your BTC stash when it's time.
I am not good on TA.

You should also buy some Bitcoin. Just saying... It's your call.... But don't come here whining later.
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April 07, 2019, 12:47:10 AM

Not that I'm a big fan of Coinbase, but I gotta say that this astroturfed smear campaign against them, urging existing users to #DeleteCoinbase and newbies to stay away, has gone splendidly well. The whale market makers know what they are doing.

Can't wait for the inevitable bull run to start, with all these crying n00bs going "But...bbut...you guys said to delete my Coinbase acct, and now I wanna buy more BitcoinTM because the price is rising fast. Now it's gonna take me another month to get verified again for a new account!"

And also "But...bbut...now I can't cash out because I #DeleteCoinbase! Shiitttt!"

Torques' view is aging well it seems.  Where is that dude?  
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April 07, 2019, 12:47:18 AM
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... insults is all he's got.

I disagree with him on many (most) points but this...just ain't so.

For sure he's a smart guy and makes some good points.

"Smart" isn't in short supply. I grew up in a smart city, was surrounded by smart people, went to a smart university, got a smart degree. I'm just not impressed with "smart." Some people can be extremely intelligent by some measures and especially dumb in others. So what is "smart"?

In my experience, honesty and integrity are far more scarce and far more valuable attributes. I've watched "smart" people destroy the world around them, and themselves, during the course of my lifetime. I'm just not impressed by "smart."

If you break his points down and really analysis them, you will realise just how weak they really are.

Big Blocks is the solution! What a load of horse shit!

"A hard cap on on-chain txs is a hard cap on on-chain txs, any way you try to spin it." <- then it doesn't matter what size you raise the blocks? how could you advocate larger/bigger blocks when you do not believe in it as a solution to deal with transaction congestion. 1MB/8MB Same thing! Need a better solution. 1 Lane Highway/10 Lane highway, eventually you will get to the same issues at hand!

He say Layer 2 is a non solution, again, such ignorance to the fact you he uses layer 2 every day.

And his response to, "what happens when your 8MB block is not enough?", that's fine we will just keep raising the block size!

Lets keep raising it to the point where the blockchain/database/ledger is so massive, no one is going to want to run a full node.

The other misconception he is pushing is, "higher fees". As much as we all like to pay nothing for something, the true reality is, we need fees to keep bitcoin secure! We need the miners to do what they do, we need to reward them. The block rewards will be negligible in 3 - 4 halving times, we need fees to be as high as possible, if that means only using onchain to settle large value transaction.

There could be a layer 3, but on top LN (layer2), that could open and close channels without the need to write onchain, utilize existing onchain open channels. How do we that, i do not know, i am not smart enough and neither is jbreher.... but the difference is, i can see the possibilities and the potential..


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April 07, 2019, 12:54:16 AM

^ I can tell you how L3 would work. (custodial L1/L2 wallets) Global payment processors with deals between them.... except they will probably be using L2/L1 to settle between them regularly (ie: hourly?)

IF Bitcoin some day gets massively adopted, that's how it will be done. You can quote me for posterity.
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Torques' view is aging well it seems.  Where is that dude?  

now that you mention it...where indeed?


but Coinbase is sucking pretty hard these days, their new fee structure is eating 40% of my ladder profits and I still hate the "pro" UI

moving my activities to Bittrex a little bit at a time
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... insults is all he's got.

I disagree with him on many (most) points but this...just ain't so.

For sure he's a smart guy and makes some good points.

"Smart" isn't in short supply. I grew up in a smart city, was surrounded by smart people, went to a smart university, got a smart degree. I'm just not impressed with "smart." Some people can be extremely intelligent by some measures and especially dumb in others. So what is "smart"?

In my experience, honesty and integrity are far more scarce and far more valuable attributes. I've watched "smart" people destroy the world around them, and themselves, during the course of my lifetime. I'm just not impressed by "smart."

If you break his points down and really analysis them, you will realise just how weak they really are.

Big Blocks is the solution! What a load of horse shit!

"A hard cap on on-chain txs is a hard cap on on-chain txs, any way you try to spin it." <- then it doesn't matter what size you raise the blocks? how could you advocate larger/bigger blocks when you do not believe in it as a solution to deal with transaction congestion. 1MB/8MB Same thing! Need a better solution. 1 Lane Highway/10 Lane highway, eventually you will get to the same issues at hand!

He say Layer 2 is a non solution, again, such ignorance to the fact you he uses layer 2 every day.

And his response to, "what happens when your 8MB block is not enough?", that's fine we will just keep raising the block size!

Lets keep raising it to the point where the blockchain/database/ledger is so massive, no one is going to want to run a full node.

The other misconception he is pushing is, "higher fees". As much as we all like to pay nothing for something, the true reality is, we need fees to keep bitcoin secure! We need the miners to do what they do, we need to reward them. The block rewards will be negligible in 3 - 4 halving times, we need fees to be as high as possible, if that means only using onchain to settle large value transaction.

There could be a layer 3, but on top LN (layer2), that could open and close channels without the need to write onchain, utilize existing onchain open channels. How do we that, i do not know, i am not smart enough and neither is jbreher.... but the difference is, i can see the possibilities and the potential..





You can quote me for posterity.

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April 07, 2019, 01:05:34 AM

... insults is all he's got.

I disagree with him on many (most) points but this...just ain't so.

For sure he's a smart guy and makes some good points.

"Smart" isn't in short supply. I grew up in a smart city, was surrounded by smart people, went to a smart university, got a smart degree. I'm just not impressed with "smart." Some people can be extremely intelligent by some measures and especially dumb in others. So what is "smart"?

In my experience, honesty and integrity are far more scarce and far more valuable attributes. I've watched "smart" people destroy the world around them, and themselves, during the course of my lifetime. I'm just not impressed by "smart."

"A hard cap on on-chain txs is a hard cap on on-chain txs, any way you try to spin it." <- then it doesn't matter what size you raise the blocks? how could you advocate larger/bigger blocks when you do not believe in it as a solution to deal with transaction congestion.

WTF are you babbling about? I advocate larger blocks, as I do believe in it as a solution to deal with transaction congestion. Quite a splendid one, in fact.

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Lets keep raising it to the point where the blockchain/database/ledger is so massive, no one is going to want to run a full node.

There will always be those who with to run a full node, if only for the ability to trustlessly process incoming payments.

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The other misconception he is pushing is, "higher fees". As much as we all like to pay nothing for something, the true reality is, we need fees to keep bitcoin secure!

The miners don't need your centrally-planned price controls.
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April 07, 2019, 01:39:51 AM

30% drop on Bitcoin incoming? Get ready to buy lower!
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/y4lKlQbn-30-drop-on-Bitcoin-incoming-Get-ready-to-buy-lower/

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