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Alexa, place JayJuanGee in the camp with the Jews.

You have no authority here.   I got bitcoin and the mobility that it allows me to transfer value anywhere in the world.

On the other hand, you and your fucking gold in grandma's basement, to the extent that you actually have any gold, are surely a target for such physical confiscation and/or lack of mobility.  Also, have you actually verified that your kilo blocks are real?  Not too easy, is it?  How you gonna divide and transport those without detection? 

Better thing for you to do roach, is just transfer the value of them into bitcoin, while you still can, and while they still have some value.  Good luck.
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https://fortune.com/2019/05/01/drop-gold-bitcoin/

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And immediately after the kike (((Larry Summers))) and friends at Digital Currency Group release that propaganda trying to trick the goyim into a digital only, cashless society slavery system where everyone is tracked and monitored, the price of metals immediately goes up right after they tell you to sell it.  Funny how that works, isn't it?
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Talking about the military, a lot of people here seems to like boats, I'm not much of a boat guy myself, but there is one boat I would like to own, and that's the CB 90.
I like to think of it like the Lambo of boats.
Here working with the dutch in Operation Atalanta (The anti pirate thing outside Somalia).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgdDgEXO2gE

Umm... yeah.

Boat looks pretty badass.

Though I gotta wonder... If pouring coolant fluid on the 50BMG does not result in steam, then WTF is the point?
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WO Game:
Last bit my of summer for Fillippone.

Where I am? Hints of form of clues, not pixel (due to the low information in surrounding pixels), but it’s really easy.


Sorry but i am done and i want my 20 mins back from you, hairy and jbreher....

Nice Hand writing tho..  Grin

Three things I want to say about the pics, some of those ace actual clue:
  • I didn’t use my hand to write it. I am called Italian stallion for a reason 
  • It is not Mars. How can be Mars if there is no mobile coverage on Mars?
  • There are two continents in this picture. One of them barely visible
VB1001 already won  Cry , . nice feet writing - No Foot fetishism-  Grin


So i don't understand options on futures and after an hour researching it I still don't know if I do. I'm gleening that is supposed to add liquiodity so larger players will not become market movers as right now they will effecftively kill liquidity if they participate in the current CMe futures. Is this correct?
Personally I want them to have to push the price up when they take a long and this is just so they can hedge their bets.

On the bright side Bakkt is settled on actual coins and that should really get some mainstream adoption.

Fuck those CME cunts.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&biw=1280&bih=563&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=mveEXelM3ZCvvA_e5obADQ&q=cme+board+of+directors&oq=cme+board+of+directors&gs_l=img.3..0i24.81712.85528..85883...0.0..0.433.4877.2-16j1j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......0j0i67j0i10i24.XOAn-EHRpQk&ved=0ahUKEwjpgefY4t_kAhVdyIsBHV6zAdgQ4dUDCAY&uact=5
The vibe i get is, With big players comes manipulation.. some going to make fortune and many will not or they have to wait for their turn.
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Any energy used in Bitcoin is purely sunk cost fallacy.  There is no 'storage' of energy being done anywhere.  Not even caveman IQ Micgoossens and JayJuanGee probably believe this.

Cavemen IQ folks like me, MicG, his team and like-minded BTC HODLers (and BTC accumulators), don't really give too many ratt's asses about details.

All that many of us cavemen IQ folks believe is that: "orange coin number go up."  grunt grunt.   Wink  

When push comes to shove, that is all that we need to believe, and so far, our beliefs have been playing out into true outcomes.  

Let's zoom out a bit and take the last 6 years to plug into your caveman IQ hypothetical... .Let's say hypothetically, we put all of our value into BTC at the top of the 2103 price peak at $1,163.  This is a hypothetical, and we know that smart investors tend to DCA into bitcoin rather than putting "all in" at the top of a price run, but hey, I am going to play with the roach hypothetical of caveman IQ peeps, so maybe we could have had made such "all in" purchasing mistake.  

Anyhow, since we are cavemen IQ folks with a conviction to HODL our BTC, so we HODL our BTC from late 2013 to present and where the fuck are we?  Caveman IQ peeps are a mere 8.73x up on our investment.  What a bunch of dumb fucks, right?

But if we cavemen IQ peeps compare ourselves to the sophisticated goldbugs, PM pumpers like roach and Peter Schiff and some of those sophisticated smart peeps, what is their return as compared with ours?  You smart and sophisticated peeps have not even gotten a 2x.  Have you gotten 50% returns?  I don't know your details beyond recognizing that I am not impressed because I have a caveman IQ, and I can only appreciate the returns of myself and other dummies like me, micgoosen, his team and other HODLers only getting a 8.73x return (in terms of the hypothetical), and for some reason we are happy with that level of return.   Go figure?

So, if we look into the future, that is the thing that you want to prepare for, right roach?   We gotta look into the future to attempt to figure out if it would be better to put our present value into BTC or into PMs like gold and silver.  whatchagonna do?

I bet that the cavemen IQ dummies who end up putting their value into BTC, accumulating more BTC on dips and otherwise and HODLing their BTC are going to perform in their investments quite a bit better than you and Peter Schiff in terms of relative returns.

  Orange number go up, right?  Doesn't the future still look good for orange number?  Actually, I don't need to bet you either, because my money has already been placed in the BTC direction to HODL and accumulate, fucktwat.


Edit: 8.73x ?!?!?!!!! Oh, man! You really bought the absolute top, didn't you?
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Any energy used in Bitcoin is purely sunk cost fallacy.  There is no 'storage' of energy being done anywhere.  Not even caveman IQ Micgoossens and JayJuanGee probably believe this.

Cavemen IQ folks like me, MicG, his team and like-minded BTC HODLers (and BTC accumulators), don't really give too many ratt's asses about details.

All that many of us cavemen IQ folks believe is that: "orange coin number go up."  grunt grunt.   Wink  

When push comes to shove, that is all that we need to believe, and so far, our beliefs have been playing out into true outcomes.  

Let's zoom out a bit and take the last 6 years to plug into your caveman IQ hypothetical... .Let's say hypothetically, we put all of our value into BTC at the top of the 2103 price peak at $1,163.  This is a hypothetical, and we know that smart investors tend to DCA into bitcoin rather than putting "all in" at the top of a price run, but hey, I am going to play with the roach hypothetical of caveman IQ peeps, so maybe we could have had made such "all in" purchasing mistake.  

Anyhow, since we are cavemen IQ folks with a conviction to HODL our BTC, so we HODL our BTC from late 2013 to present and where the fuck are we?  Caveman IQ peeps are a mere 8.73x up on our investment.  What a bunch of dumb fucks, right?

But if we cavemen IQ peeps compare ourselves to the sophisticated goldbugs, PM pumpers like roach and Peter Schiff and some of those sophisticated smart peeps, what is their return as compared with ours?  You smart and sophisticated peeps have not even gotten a 2x.  Have you gotten 50% returns?  I don't know your details beyond recognizing that I am not impressed because I have a caveman IQ, and I can only appreciate the returns of myself and other dummies like me, micgoosen, his team and other HODLers only getting a 8.73x return (in terms of the hypothetical), and for some reason we are happy with that level of return.   Go figure?

So, if we look into the future, that is the thing that you want to prepare for, right roach?   We gotta look into the future to attempt to figure out if it would be better to put our present value into BTC or into PMs like gold and silver.  whatchagonna do?

I bet that the cavemen IQ dummies who end up putting their value into BTC, accumulating more BTC on dips and otherwise and HODLing their BTC are going to perform in their investments quite a bit better than you and Peter Schiff in terms of relative returns.

  Orange number go up, right?  Doesn't the future still look good for orange number?  Actually, I don't need to bet you either, because my money has already been placed in the BTC direction to HODL and accumulate, fucktwat.


Yeah.  I understand pobrecita, fatty.  You are experiencing a meaningful amount of difficulties getting used to coming back to bitcoin and understanding what it is like to be a bitcoin fan from your BIG blocker nutjob circles.  

Hopefully, you don't retrogress too much back into your earlier (and likely lingering) dumb-ass mindset.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Edit: 8.73x ?!?!?!!!! Oh, man! You really bought the absolute top, didn't you?

Oh gawd.  You don't even know how to read, or perhaps you don't understand the concept of a hypothetical.

Let me 'splain dis hypotetical thingie-ma-jiggie to you.  
 
You understand that I had said that even if I had bought all my BTC at $1,163 at the absolute top in 2013 (and other hypothetical cavemanIQ peeps, then my profits would be 8.73x.   That is be called a hypothetical because that is not what actually happened in my situation.  It was a way to give some benefit of the doubt to the price matters.   You startin to begin to understandin dis a wee lil bitty, now?  Fatty?  

I might need to insert my own eye-rolling pic here or perhaps insert batman,  and slap you upside into some kind of sensical state, if that is even remotely possible?    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Any energy used in Bitcoin is purely sunk cost fallacy.  There is no 'storage' of energy being done anywhere.  Not even caveman IQ Micgoossens and JayJuanGee probably believe this.

Cavemen IQ folks like me, MicG, his team and like-minded BTC HODLers (and BTC accumulators), don't really give too many ratt's asses about details.

All that many of us cavemen IQ folks believe is that: "orange coin number go up."  grunt grunt.   Wink  

When push comes to shove, that is all that we need to believe, and so far, our beliefs have been playing out into true outcomes.  

Let's zoom out a bit and take the last 6 years to plug into your caveman IQ hypothetical... .Let's say hypothetically, we put all of our value into BTC at the top of the 2103 price peak at $1,163.  This is a hypothetical, and we know that smart investors tend to DCA into bitcoin rather than putting "all in" at the top of a price run, but hey, I am going to play with the roach hypothetical of caveman IQ peeps, so maybe we could have had made such "all in" purchasing mistake.  

Anyhow, since we are cavemen IQ folks with a conviction to HODL our BTC, so we HODL our BTC from late 2013 to present and where the fuck are we?  Caveman IQ peeps are a mere 8.73x up on our investment.  What a bunch of dumb fucks, right?

But if we cavemen IQ peeps compare ourselves to the sophisticated goldbugs, PM pumpers like roach and Peter Schiff and some of those sophisticated smart peeps, what is their return as compared with ours?  You smart and sophisticated peeps have not even gotten a 2x.  Have you gotten 50% returns?  I don't know your details beyond recognizing that I am not impressed because I have a caveman IQ, and I can only appreciate the returns of myself and other dummies like me, micgoosen, his team and other HODLers only getting a 8.73x return (in terms of the hypothetical), and for some reason we are happy with that level of return.   Go figure?

So, if we look into the future, that is the thing that you want to prepare for, right roach?   We gotta look into the future to attempt to figure out if it would be better to put our present value into BTC or into PMs like gold and silver.  whatchagonna do? 

I bet that the cavemen IQ dummies who end up putting their value into BTC, accumulating more BTC on dips and otherwise and HODLing their BTC are going to perform in their investments quite a bit better than you and Peter Schiff in terms of relative returns.

  Orange number go up, right?  Doesn't the future still look good for orange number?  Actually, I don't need to bet you either, because my money has already been placed in the BTC direction to HODL and accumulate, fucktwat.


Yeah.  I understand pobrecita, fatty.  You are experiencing a meaningful amount of difficulties getting used to coming back to bitcoin and understanding what it is like to be a bitcoin fan from your BIG blocker nutjob circles. 

Hopefully, you don't retrogress too much back into your earlier (and likely lingering) dumb-ass mindset.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Hey, don't dodge the question. How much did "hypothetical" little you buy around $1163 in 2013?
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Oh gawd.  You don't even know how to read, or perhaps you don't understand the concept of a hypothetical.

Let me 'splain this to you.  
 
You understand that I had said that even if I had bought all my BTC at $1,163 at the absolute top in 2013, then my profits would be 8.73x.   That be called a hypothetical because that is not what happened.   You startin to understandin dis, a wee lil bitty, now?  Fatty?  

I might need to insert my own eye-rolling here, are perhaps insert batman,  and slap you into some senses, if that is possible?    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You might be surprised to hear that I skip a lot of your texts, hence the gif. And that's when I don't have you on ignore.

Again, How much did you buy at the very top in 2013?

Since you're not a caveman and all. (Fuck you roach, btw)
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Hey, don't dodge the question. How much did "hypothetical" little you buy around $1163 in 2013?

If we are going to deal with reality rather than hypothetical, my first BTC purchase was 1.24 BTC on local bitcoins in the end of November 2013 for $1,200 per bitcoin, which would have been $1,500 for that transaction.

Of course, I bought more BTC after that, so by the time that we got to the end of 2014, I had brought my average BTC purchase price down to around $550 per BTC - however, we know that BTC prices were in the mid $200s for most of 2015, and by the end of 2015, my price per BTC was in the mid-$400s, yet when my phone got sim ported in early 2017, my average price per BTC went up to around $750 per BTC, which is roughly the price that I personally tend to use for calculating my average cost per BTC, even with folks like you who likely don't really have any need to know, except that you are trying to figure out some trolling information while you likely don't really end up providing any genuine or meaningful information about yourself except that you became a BIG BLOCK tard, and continue to have inabilities to actually engage in meaningful or relevant discussions because you tend to be too occupied in tarding out.

Do you have any kind of interesting and meaningful BTC accumulation story that does not involve too much of your attempting to distract us with your merely just getting reckt on various shit coins and/or bragging about your participation in the pumping or scamming of irrelevant topics?
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You might be surprised to hear that I skip a lot of your texts, hence the gif. And that's when I don't have you on ignore.

Again, How much did you buy at the very top in 2013?

Since you're not a caveman and all. (Fuck you roach, btw)

My purchase at $1,200 was my highest BTC purchase in 2013 until the BTC prices went back above $1,200 in 2017.

Of course, I had some other decently high BTC purchases in 2013 and 2014 because the BTC price stayed up for a couple of months.   I could go back and calculate how many BTC that I bought in the first few months at relatively higher prices, but it does not really matter too much, now does it?

When I first got into BTC in late 2013, that was the first that I had really looked into BTC, so of course, I had known sufficiently that there had been a recent run up in BTC price that rose to the level of 15x in the prior few months and really more than 100x over the whole of 2013.  I went in knowing that and I had a plan to dollar cost average, with a bit of front loading in for 6 months in early 2014 and then to reassess my investment strategy towards the end of that 6 months, which ended up extending my investment for another 6 months, and pretty much by the end of my first 12 months into bitcoin I had dollar cost averaged and established my initial stake in BTC, which I had intended to add up to about 10% of my total quasi-available investment funds.   I had largely achieved that goal by the end of 2014.

Thereafter in 2014, I continued to dollar cost average, buy on dips and authorized myself to start to sell in late 2015 based on some formulas that I had worked out that accounted for only selling small portions of BTC on the way up and only selling BTC that were profitable - including accounting for transaction fees and various other expenses that I had incurred by getting involved in BTC.

So, ultimately, I don't understand what your BIG DEAL desire to harp on how many BTC I bought at the top of the 2013 bubble because those are exactly the same kind of bullshit propaganda pieces that troll/shills try to bring up in order to act as if they are smarter ... lot's of people (especially degenerates) try to act like they are smarter after the fact and while they fail/refuse to account for the actual situation and instead impose their own retroactive perspective about what should have been done.. which is not necessarily sufficiently individualized, either.

I don't have regrets about the strategy that I created, that I followed and that I tweaked along the way.  It worked great for me, even though it was a bit depressing during parts of the extreme downfall periods and the sense that it was becoming difficult to really get a sense of when the bottom was in, during late 2014 and even into many parts of 2015.
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Hey, don't dodge the question. How much did "hypothetical" little you buy around $1163 in 2013?

If we are going to deal with reality rather than hypothetical, my first BTC purchase was 1.24 BTC on local bitcoins in the end of November 2013 for $1,200 per bitcoin, which would have been $1,500 for that transaction.



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I don’t know sh*t cause being a caveman.......

But what I do know Smiley

That I obviously met HM last evening as Some other members, gonna wait with posting who cause I don’t know i’m suppose to write etc (first gonna hear if its ok with them and actualy we where meeting today)

Yesterday was a very small meet cause we all arrived early and we where not going to drink Roll Eyes

I count around 8 bottles of wine a few glasses of cocktails, sambucca and tequila shots, damn we WO’s ....
We where not going to drink to much lol Roll Eyes

So what I do remember = HM gave me (us) already a sneak prak of what he thinks that is gonna happen Monday when BAKKT goes live Cheesy
I always like his way of thinking with BTC ....
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I have been giving you the benefit of the doubt, roach



Now why the fuck would you go and do something like that?

It's my inner sweet coming out.

Cannot control it, sometimes.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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My purchase at $1,200 was my highest BTC purchase in 2013 until the BTC prices went back above $1,200 in 2017.


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sure man, whatevs

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Hey, don't dodge the question. How much did "hypothetical" little you buy around $1163 in 2013?

If we are going to deal with reality rather than hypothetical, my first BTC purchase was 1.24 BTC on local bitcoins in the end of November 2013 for $1,200 per bitcoin, which would have been $1,500 for that transaction.



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Why would anyone treat you seriously when you act like that, fatty?  Look at me, trying to be nice to you, but you act like a total fool, which yeah, probably is not an act, so there is that.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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My purchase at $1,200 was my highest BTC purchase in 2013 until the BTC prices went back above $1,200 in 2017.


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Of course, I had some other decently high BTC purchases in 2013 and 2014 because the BTC price stayed up for a couple of months.   I could go back and calculate how many BTC that I bought in the first few months at relatively higher prices, but it does not really matter too much, now does it?


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sure man, whatevs

You are really hard to take seriously.  Are you even out of your teenage years, yet?
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I wonder wtf I was doing when btc was $500-$1000

Only if I had given it a chance and even DCA'ed $100 monthly, would have made me life changing money. At some point btc was $200 for fucks sake. (in 2015) Took so long to get to the mind state which I have now.

People tell young people that they should take more risks than  the old people but in reality, young people are scared as fuck to lose whatever little money they have. (that was me)

Old people on the other hand, most of them are already rich and they were casually buying 10 bitcoins from $500/$1k.

I was scared to spend $100 on btc in 2014.

It is like, the more poorer you are, the longer you stay poor.

The more richer you are, the shorter it takes to get even more richer.

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lol Could have been $100k richer it seems. Sticking to that $100/month DCA strategy would get me more bitcoins than what I have now. Impressive.
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So what I do remember = HM gave me (us) already a sneak prak of what he thinks that is gonna happen Monday when BAKKT goes live Cheesy
I always like his way of thinking with BTC ....

I do not know if HM agrees with what I think could happen, before the end of Sunday there can be a setback and stop at $9,800 once it enters the Bakkt market, it has to go up to $10,700 to maintain the upward trend.

Congrats on the meeting with HM, you are the person who knows more WO members, you have earned the title of:

micgoossens > "Wall Observer Ambassador"

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