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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 2 (3.6%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (1.8%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (3.6%)
$85K to $90K - 7 (12.7%)
$90K to $95K - 12 (21.8%)
$95K to $100K - 9 (16.4%)
>$100K - 22 (40%)
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October 22, 2019, 06:08:27 AM


You actually think this will happen? These are insane amounts of money. Shows more like how hard it will be for Bitcoin to take the next 10x to me. (If Market Cap isnt fake)
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October 22, 2019, 08:58:42 AM

Opera Becomes First Major Browser to Enable Direct Bitcoin Payments

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Web browser Opera now allows making payments with Bitcoin (BTC) directly inside the browser.

The company announced the news in a press release shared with Cointelegraph on Oct. 21, detailing that Opera’s 350 million users can now send and receive BTC directly from the browser, as well as use the cryptocurrency for purchasing goods and services on e-commerce websites.

Additionally, the browser now enables adding a Bitcoin and TRON (TRX) card into the built-in Crypto Wallet to keep track of the cryptocurrency owned. Charles Hamel, head of crypto at Opera, commented on the new feature launch:

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“We believe that opening our browser to more blockchains, including Bitcoin, is the logical next step to making our solution more relevant to anyone who has a Bitcoin crypto wallet and would like to do things with their cryptocurrencies beyond just keeping them in an account.”
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October 22, 2019, 12:33:06 PM

Big moves are coming, buckle up!

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“In the U.S., and other countries around the world, it is just a matter of time before we see massive disruption,’’ Tobias Adrian, the director of the IMF’s monetary and capital markets department said in an interview. “There is at least the potential that new technology might lead to a new global payment system fairly rapidly.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-16/fed-drags-feet-as-digital-money-revolution-tests-central-banks
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October 22, 2019, 12:59:38 PM

Although some already call it digital gold.

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October 22, 2019, 01:17:51 PM
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I am sorry to state the obvious, this but at this point it is evident that world stock indexes and big business will clone high capacity chains like Waves to migrate old world means of production in a regulated censorship enabled environment.

Merchants are bound to the land owned by governments and they cannot physically resist high level decision making because profit is tied to machines of production that are land locked.

It is a bad outcome for this decentralized space as far as merchant onramping but some alts may be able to capture market share and grow by mimicing stock indexes in a decentralized format.

My point here is that Merchants will of course want to launch branded cryptos with high capacity inorder to extract added value of blockchain technology but it is probable that a vast majority of extant resources will be migrated to government controlled indexes like Nasdaq, Nikkei, etc, using custom platforms.

I think Bitcoin and many top coins will find competition difficult against establishment. I think Bitcoin is vastly overvalued.

I also think that in 5 years from now, Google, Darpa or Boston Dynamics will have paired autonomous robots with an AGI powered chain using concept of Ethereums original design. I could be a boon to society much more impactful than industrial revolution.

Onramping mainstream userbase will have little price impact, real wealth is in top 1% of economy as everyone knows, because they own the means of production.

Decentralized space excluding top 5 since it is not decentralized, maybe will become the peoples economy. It is a class division of the world.

Bitcoin is already owned by the old establishment so using it for decentralized and libertarian reasons is a bit redundant. It's a good vehicle of gambling and speculation, so enjoy your continued debate, I think it is looking at -90% market cap reduction to be more inline with top alts.

Because I just don't see how capital flight into crypto from fortune 500 can be realized because of the land locked means of production and not to mention logistics industry which is controlled by militara through nation borders and customs.
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October 22, 2019, 01:31:19 PM

I am sorry to state the obvious, this but at this point it is evident that world stock indexes and big business will clone high capacity chains like Waves to migrate old world means of production in a regulated censorship enabled environment.

Merchants are bound to the land owned by governments and they cannot physically resist high level decision making because profit is tied to machines of production that are land locked.

It is a bad outcome for this decentralized space as far as merchant onramping but some alts may be able to capture market share and grow by mimicing stock indexes in a decentralized format.

My point here is that Merchants will of course want to launch branded cryptos with high capacity inorder to extract added value of blockchain technology but it is probable that a vast majority of extant resources will be migrated to government controlled indexes like Nasdaq, Nikkei, etc, using custom platforms.

I think Bitcoin and many top coins will find competition difficult against establishment. I think Bitcoin is vastly overvalued.

I also think that in 5 years from now, Google, Darpa or Boston Dynamics will have paired autonomous robots with an AGI powered chain using concept of Ethereums original design.

Onramping mainstream userbase will have little price impact, real wealth is in top 1% of economy as everyone knows, because they own the means of production.

Decentralized space excluding top 5 since it is not decentralized, maybe will become the peoples economy. It is a class division of the world.

Bitcoin is already owned by the old establishment so using it for decentralized and libertarian reasons is a bit redundant. It's a good vehicle of gambling and speculation, so enjoy your continued debate.

What benefits does blockchain provide once you have removed the decentralization and censorship resistance?

In the cases you describe the private organizations would be better off using a more robust and efficient conventional database.  Blockchain is big, slow and clunky.  There is little reason for companies to adopt it if you take away the reason it is valuable in the first place.

There is a major paradigm shift i n the making.  It's confusing to try to predict how it will unfold.  But I am not sure I can see your scenario really working.
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October 22, 2019, 01:37:06 PM

It's benefits are multi fold but programmable currency is a game changer when paired with computing power. There is incentive to keep such tech regulated.

World industry has expressed significant interest in blockchain technology have they not? I think they are incentivized regardless of decentralized aspects, frankly, I don't think they care at all about decentralization, quite the contrary.

Establishment migration to blockchain is further incentivized by eroding confidence in fiat.

Fiat collapse is a non issue once it occurrs, because the world is already migrated by then.

So it is a false hope to rely on fiat erosion for decentralized crypto to gain alot of value. It could be an industry for the new underclass, whereas elite is on censorship enabled platforms.

Index platforms like waves, stellar, nexus may be able to capture share of new merchant businesses, but probably not established fortune 500's. This is not Bitcoins space at all, closest thing is XCP and it's just so dysfunctional, I used it in 2017 with Marquise $Museum.
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October 22, 2019, 01:46:18 PM

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I think Bitcoin and many top coins will find competition difficult against establishment. I think Bitcoin is vastly overvalued.
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I also think that in 5 years from now, Google, Darpa or Boston Dynamics will have paired autonomous robots with an AGI powered chain using concept of Ethereums original design. I could be a boon to society much more impactful than industrial revolution.
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Bitcoin is already owned by the old establishment so using it for decentralized and libertarian reasons is a bit redundant. It's a good vehicle of gambling and speculation, so enjoy your continued debate, I think it is looking at -90% market cap reduction to be more inline with top  

Easy ignore.

Can yoy please fuck off to the ethereum sub or whatever the fuck you came from please?
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October 22, 2019, 01:48:23 PM

Sept-Oct-Nov season in

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October 22, 2019, 01:48:24 PM
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I think Bitcoin and many top coins will find competition difficult against establishment. I think Bitcoin is vastly overvalued.
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I also think that in 5 years from now, Google, Darpa or Boston Dynamics will have paired autonomous robots with an AGI powered chain using concept of Ethereums original design. I could be a boon to society much more impactful than industrial revolution.
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Bitcoin is already owned by the old establishment so using it for decentralized and libertarian reasons is a bit redundant. It's a good vehicle of gambling and speculation, so enjoy your continued debate, I think it is looking at -90% market cap reduction to be more inline with top  

Easy ignore.

Can yoy please fuck off to the ethereum sub or whatever the fuck you came from please?

Construct an argument.



Blockchain is big, slow and clunky,

Only Bitcoin, Ethereum and those old generation coins.
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I think Bitcoin and many top coins will find competition difficult against establishment. I think Bitcoin is vastly overvalued.
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I also think that in 5 years from now, Google, Darpa or Boston Dynamics will have paired autonomous robots with an AGI powered chain using concept of Ethereums original design. I could be a boon to society much more impactful than industrial revolution.
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Bitcoin is already owned by the old establishment so using it for decentralized and libertarian reasons is a bit redundant. It's a good vehicle of gambling and speculation, so enjoy your continued debate, I think it is looking at -90% market cap reduction to be more inline with top  

Easy ignore.

Can yoy please fuck off to the ethereum sub or whatever the fuck you came from please?

Construct an argument.


Nobody here is required to challenge your worldview there buddy.

"If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry"
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October 22, 2019, 03:05:10 PM

https://twitter.com/trylolli/status/1186657981418659841?s=21

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bank of america is down

BITCOIN (aka BANK OF THE WORLD) NEVER GOES DOWN
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October 22, 2019, 03:07:32 PM


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Gold is pretty, shiny, etc. but you can't send it anywhere in the world within minutes as you can with Bitcoin.

.... this is why I Bitcoin. No borders. No limits. No permission. No trust.

https://twitter.com/alistairmilne/status/1186544152122707969?s=21

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October 22, 2019, 03:34:55 PM

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I think Bitcoin and many top coins will find competition difficult against establishment. I think Bitcoin is vastly overvalued.
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I also think that in 5 years from now, Google, Darpa or Boston Dynamics will have paired autonomous robots with an AGI powered chain using concept of Ethereums original design. I could be a boon to society much more impactful than industrial revolution.
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Bitcoin is already owned by the old establishment so using it for decentralized and libertarian reasons is a bit redundant. It's a good vehicle of gambling and speculation, so enjoy your continued debate, I think it is looking at -90% market cap reduction to be more inline with top  

Easy ignore.

Can yoy please fuck off to the ethereum sub or whatever the fuck you came from please?

Construct an argument.


Nobody here is required to challenge your worldview there buddy.

"If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry"

Too bad, I will invest my money elsewhere. Perfectly open to x100 leverage long BTC if I can find a few counter points to defend $150 bn market value.
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October 22, 2019, 03:50:24 PM

If they don't care about decentralization, they simply will not use bitcoin. However, the people will choose what they want to use, not governments. They can try to force it, but you know how that will turn out.
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October 22, 2019, 04:24:51 PM

Sept-Oct-Nov season in

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In 2017, Bitcoin went up

In 2018, Bitcoin went down

Now the multi million dollar question: Where does bitcoin goes in the last quarter 2019 ?
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Sept-Oct-Nov season in

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In 2017, Bitcoin went up

In 2018, Bitcoin went down

Now the multi million dollar question: Where does bitcoin goes in the last quarter 2019 ?

Anybody who says they know is lying. Nobody knows.
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What do we want? "Better advertising!" Where do we want it? "Retail education!"

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