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[Phil_S]

but we haven't been let out.

That's why no second wave.

Counter-point: they let people out in South Korea. Yet there is no second wave.

[JayJuanGee]

Marcus is not even close to roach, and he is merely presenting information that differs from your own opinion about the virus and it's impact.

Surely, there is some incorrect information out there, and there is also some difference of opinion regarding which information is more important - therefore conclusions reached will be different based upon which evidence is given greater weight.

Not sure if you noticed, but marcus keeps mentioning super-scary "second wave of covid-19" like it's a proven thing that's coming to kill more and more.

That is called speculating.

Any adult reader should be able to recognize that any of us need to come to our own conclusions regarding how much weight to give to any person on the interwebs including their evidence and logic for positions that they take.

I am not saying anything new to assert that this is a fucking bitcoin related thread, so many of us are not even assessing how much knowledge or background any many of us might have in terms of making various medical or epidemiological claims.

Notably people are interested in the virus topic, even if it is NOT specifically about bitcoin, but individual members are going to choose how much to read posts about the virus and how they might relate to either bitcoin or if they happen to be interested in that particular important current event.

When it's just a hypothesis with no scientific evidence to back it up.

Now, who is exaggerating?  People study these kinds of things, so yes there is science... but whether you believe the science is credible or adequately backed by facts and logic might be another question, but asserting that there is "NO" science is inaccurate.

In fact, there is some evidence for "no second wave" hypothesis:



Two months after the first peak: still nothing. No second peak.

There is rarely NO such thing as one science or absolute conclusions... Sure some sciences are harder and based on things like math, but even in the harder sciences, there can be some disagreements - maybe not about the results of 1+5, but sometimes more complicated ways of calculating can be controversial in terms of whether they yield accurate and absolute results to describe the asserted phenomenon.

In other areas of science, especially if they involve a lot of variables, including human behavior, then there are going to be a lot more areas for debate and even clearly stating the premises or the assumptions.

Therefore, more complicated theories might end up having more support on one side versus another and even sometimes the predominant theories end up getting proven to be wrong by more minor theories. .. so fair enough to proclaim that one version, speculation, theory might have more evidence and logic backing it up than some other version, speculation, theory, but sometimes with anything that is involving ongoing gathering of facts and even theories that might shed light on the facts, then the more prominent or convincing theories might evolve through time.  Furthermore, some aspects of human behavior can end up changing the results, but those changed facts would not necessarily mean that the earlier theories were wrong, even if they ended up playing out in a different way based on changed behaviors.

[nutildah]

Yes, but right now their personal fantasy and reality is one and the same, and that must be a great feeling for them.
They are going to pester their grandchildren with these stories forever,

LOL. Sad but true. It's like their Vietnam, except instead of fighting for the government, they're just drinking beers and waving their metal dicks around at the government.

"Grandkids, ever tell you about the time me and uncle Earl stormed the state capitol and won back our freedoms?"

"Yes paw-paw."

"Thank me for your freedoms, kids."

"Thanks paw-paw."

[bitcoinPsycho]

Yes, but right now their personal fantasy and reality is one and the same, and that must be a great feeling for them.
They are going to pester their grandchildren with these stories forever,

LOL. Sad but true. It's like their Vietnam, except instead of fighting for the government, they're just drinking beers and waving their metal dicks around at the government.

The situation in Michigan is genuinely fucked up. Their governor has gone off the deep end, and is drunk with power. She's gone full-retard.

She sold all her bitcoin? Idiot

[Last of the V8s]

In today's other weird

[jojo69]

In today's other weird

says he got hacked

[Last of the V8s]

who what where why when link

[bkbirge]

In today's other weird

Huh, I always wondered what billionaires do when they have a mid life crisis.

[jojo69]

NVM

I missed the question mark on the ZH headline

my bad

[Last of the V8s]

I kinda miss it too

[Wekkel]

What will Elon do with his cash from selling all his assets?

#elon_coin?

[Phil_S]

That is called speculating.

Yet people like marcus keep presenting "second wave of covid-19" as a sure thing, that's coming 100%. When it should be treated as a wild speculation.

When it's just a hypothesis with no scientific evidence to back it up.

Now, who is exaggerating?  People study these kinds of things, so yes there is science... but whether you believe the science is credible or adequately backed by facts and logic might be another question, but asserting that there is "NO" science is inaccurate.

People study other viruses, but for covid-19 specifically there is no science on the "second wave".
Not a single country is experiencing "second wave" right now, despite very different lockdown policies.
Enough time passed since the first peak.

[JimboToronto]

Good morning Bitcoinland.

The Battle of Vegeta continues... currently $8757USD/$12328CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Had to sell a coin today to take care of business in Toronto. I always hate to sell any Bitcoin but I got $8.85kUSD. That's a lot better than a half a week ago and almost $100 more than now so I can't bitch.

That's the beauty of Bitcoin. It's not about buying consumer crap. It's about sending decent amounts of money internationally cheaply, safely, and quickly. Sitting in the Mexican jungle taking care of business in Toronto during a pandemic lockdown.

Thank you Bitcoin.

Sometimes, politicians need to be reminded about who they represent. 🧐🍷

Don't you just hate insubordinate servants?

🍷🍷🍷

[JayJuanGee]

That is called speculating.

Yet people like marcus keep presenting "second wave of covid-19" as a sure thing, that's coming 100%. When it should be treated as a wild speculation.

Maybe I am getting lost in this discussion because I don't know why it matters so much what the fuck Marcus thinks and what he posts.   The equating him to roach is way the fuck off base, and whether you believe that he is merely speculating, wild speculating or that he has some facts/logic to back up his posts/assertions seems to be merely a matter of degree, and perhaps differing opinions.  Several of us have differing opinions, even when we might agree about various matters, no one here necessarily agree on everything, unless we are incapable of any critical thinking.  There is no real requirement to agree... except sometimes we might get rid of some troll/shills if we agree that they are full of shit, and you want to put Marcus in such category seems quite absurd based on what I have seen from him so far, unless maybe I did not look closely enough?   

When it's just a hypothesis with no scientific evidence to back it up.

Now, who is exaggerating?  People study these kinds of things, so yes there is science... but whether you believe the science is credible or adequately backed by facts and logic might be another question, but asserting that there is "NO" science is inaccurate.

People study other viruses, but for covid-19 specifically there is no science on the "second wave".

It's probably a bit too early to have strong facts on that.  I have heard some assertions that there may be some cover up of the degree of additional incidents in China.. and there has been some suggestion of second wave in Italy.. so even if I am not making any assertion one way or another, any assertion regarding NO evidence in this particular case seems both premature and not even based on epidemiological studies regarding how the spread of disease (whether virus or otherwise) actually work, whether we are are referring to this particular virus or other diseases (which remains a kind of evidence that might have some informative contribution to understanding this particular situation).

Not a single country is experiencing "second wave" right now, despite very different lockdown policies.
Enough time passed since the first peak.

You might be correct regarding some lacking of enough evidence to make a claim about the existence of a second wave, yet seems like we disagree about whether enough time has passed to reasonably arrive at such a conclusion.

By the way, I do understand why there is so much anxiety regarding trying to get things back to as good of a "normal" as we can, because it is quite likely that with the greater passage of time with various degrees of lockdown, some industries (and of course people) are going to be more greatly affected in negative ways from such ongoing lack of attempting to move towards "normal."

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Wouldn’t surprise me if r0ach is a paid shill or has a lot of bitcoin & his purpose here is to scare weak hands in to selling. He’s always more active during bearish times, if he is a paid shill then that’s when his peak impact on noobs & weak hands will be.

We’re at the start of a maybe 2 year bull run now so his work is done?

I do not think any paid shill against bitcoin is going to work in WO. If any one gave it a try then end of the day they are losers.

Why do we give any shits about Roach?

Yeah, he has been gone from the thread for several months.

His absence does not seem to be a bad thing... Maybe his handlers ran out of money to keep paying him?

He hardly added any value to the thread, but there are still a few members here who are carrying his torch (and missing him), and believe some of the same nonsensical things that he did.

Nah man! it's not that I care for him very much or as much as I do for some other WO or even in the forum guys but it's really hard to judge someones true intention in an anonymous forum. May be R0ach is a fucking whale and tries to spread fear so that he can get some gains. Some of the guess from LFC could be right.

What my care was about the R0ach as a person. I hope he is okay. We all can have different opinions, views but more than anything else we are a living creature.

I hope did not hurt any of you ass holes 🤪

[Cryptotourist]

Marcus is not even close to roach, and he is merely presenting information that differs from your own opinion about the virus and it's impact.

Right, that's probably why he hasn't posted one single post on any Corona thread:

Lovely humor.

But imo Marcus is a good BTC'er as many more should be and has a lot of knowledge that I would hope he keeps sharing with us.

Fair enough.
Can he stop dooming and glooming, and focus on BTC I wonder? [no]

Wouldn’t surprise me if r0ach is a paid shill or has a lot of bitcoin & his purpose here is to scare weak hands in to selling. He’s always more active during bearish times, if he is a paid shill then that’s when his peak impact on noobs & weak hands will be.

That's what I'm saying.

We’re at the start of a maybe 2 year bull run now so his work is done?

No, he just switched accounts most likely, and never left for one fucking second.
BTW, posting patterns match.

[VB1001]

Wouldn’t surprise me if r0ach is a paid shill or has a lot of bitcoin & his purpose here is to scare weak hands in to selling. He’s always more active during bearish times, if he is a paid shill then that’s when his peak impact on noobs & weak hands will be.

We’re at the start of a maybe 2 year bull run now so his work is done?

I do not think any paid shill against bitcoin is going to work in WO. If any one gave it a try then end of the day they are losers.

Why do we give any shits about Roach?

Yeah, he has been gone from the thread for several months.

His absence does not seem to be a bad thing... Maybe his handlers ran out of money to keep paying him?

He hardly added any value to the thread, but there are still a few members here who are carrying his torch (and missing him), and believe some of the same nonsensical things that he did.

Nah man! it's not that I care for him very much or as much as I do for some other WO or even in the forum guys but it's really hard to judge someones true intention in an anonymous forum. May be R0ach is a fucking whale and tries to spread fear so that he can get some gains. Some of the guess from LFC could be right.

What my care was about the R0ach as a person. I hope he is okay. We all can have different opinions, views but more than anything else we are a living creature.

I hope did not hurt any of you ass holes 🤪

[Cryptotourist]

That is called speculating.

Hey, I'm speculating that r0ach is marcus .... and maybe few more.
Is that okay with you J?

There is rarely NO such thing as one science or absolute conclusions...

Tell that to marcus, when he posts those "confirmed" bullshit propaganda posts of his.

[Biodom]

my interests in talking about:
ideas>>events>>people

on the "stahs" market: finally, some proper thinking is taking hold and a major "fake" TSLA is finally cooling down to 701 from 880.

btc is disconnecting for now, which is GREAT!

[Dunkelheit667]

The monthly update:



Compared to fiat money 34.2 % up last month and 20.48% this year - not that bad.

Finally spring is here, we see the green again. After weeks without rain it has started raining again, ensuring the green does not turn yellow.

Hope you had or will have a pleasant 1st of May, May Day, Workers' Day or Labour Day! Although I'm not sure how the working class should celebrate its enslavement and poverty at the moment while keeping reasonable safety distances. I did it by making my monthly DCA purchase.

Other than that not much has changed in the last month, many people are still at home and do not know what to do with their regained time. As a result, we are now at 200% workload, more working hours, same payment as before. I should really quit the job, sell some for fiat and relax for a year or two.

Catching up with the gentlemen's thread takes some time these days. However, it always gives me a smile, makes me scratch my head or just enjoy a meme. Thank you all.

Gentlemen, have a lovely month of May, stay safe and keep posting!