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[eXPHHorizon]

Here's to cheating, stealing and drinking.
For if you cheat, may you cheat death. And if you steal, may you steal a maiden's heart, and if you drink, MAY YOU DRINK WITH ME!

Cheers WO !

Oh, I know this one!!

 ...and if you dont want to drink with me I'll punch you in your @#%$ face!

 https://i.imgur.com/Dk13Hxd.jpg

LOL, yeah that old guy did not deserve that punch.. However Conor is still King even if he had abit of a Drinking problem at the time he done that to the old man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMOUCpoLB_8

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[Hueristic]

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In my wee years of living, I have witnessed a fuckload of bailouts to portions of society that do not deserve it...

People need to stop calling it "Bailouts" and "stimulus" and all the other bullshit jargon and call it what it is, Welfare.

[jojo69]

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In my wee years of living, I have witnessed a fuckload of bailouts to portions of society that do not deserve it...

People need to stop calling it "Bailouts" and "stimulus" and all the other bullshit jargon and call it what it is, Welfare.

or... "theft"

[JayJuanGee]

......
There's much more to this, but i'd need "JJG superpowers of texting" to express all this in a meaningful way, i guess

Such purported "superpowers" is not worth it.

If they are offered to you, just say no, to superpowers.


Just say no.


Just say no.


You will thank me later.

[bkbirge]

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In my wee years of living, I have witnessed a fuckload of bailouts to portions of society that do not deserve it...

People need to stop calling it "Bailouts" and "stimulus" and all the other bullshit jargon and call it what it is, Welfare.

or... "theft"

Socialism, state directed economy. Corporate welfare... privatizing profits, socializing losses.

[Elwar]

I'm not sure why I have to keep bringing this up for every "crisis" but...if you people that hate freedom would quit using every crisis as an excuse to institute even more tyranny (like you did with the last crisis) then those of us who love freedom wouldn't be fighting you on this.

You could say "hey gang, this virus is bad...we should all socially distance" and we'd be like..."that sounds reasonable, we can do that temporarily then get back on with things as they were before". The crisis would pass, things would go back to normal.


But instead it's "hey dissenters, stay at home or we'll arrest you...also we need to institute a new normal where drones are flying around monitoring everyone and we're spending $1 trillion a week while deciding who can work and who cannot"...to the response of "fuck your crisis...we don't believe anything you say".

Remember that for the next crisis...because you'll care oh so much about people in the next crisis too and we will yet again not follow along with your ideas about how "everybody should do X".

This is actually a great formulation of my thoughts from another direction.

I often come into conflict with folks approaching from the "conservative" side whose logic seems to be;

if - crisis is being used to consolidate power

then - crisis is made up bullshit

Sorry, but this logic does not hold water.  Rahm Emanuel's infamous chestnut is perhaps the most flagrant illustration that the powers that be will, in fact, use ANY crisis, conjured or terrifyingly real to further their designs.


Elwar, I accept your thesis that the forces of neoliberal globalism have squandered their credibility through repeated exploitation of crises.  I further accept that this complicates our response.

Do you accept that some of these crises may, in fact, be real??

I accept that those that support freedom need to downplay the crisis out of necessity. I also accept that those that support tyranny need to unnecessarily overhype the crisis.

Hence, you go up and down your Facebook page and see the same people posting low COVID death numbers who also post links to how maybe Iran didn't do <insert bad thing the US claims they did to push for WW3>.
The same people screaming about millions of possible deaths are the same ones that say that the PATRIOT Act was a perfectly reasonable response that is still necessary 20 years after 19 individuals orchestrated an attack.

People would not need to downplay the numbers if they knew that those that want to control their lives were going to try to use the crisis to control their lives. People who want to control your life would not be overhyping the numbers if they had some dogs they could torture to keep their appetite satiated for power.

Now...if people who truly are all about this COVID thing being an actual true threat that they believe in their hearts is going to end humanity (and they get past the fact that they don't really care about humanity going away)...then they should propose free market solutions that would give people more freedom while fighting the virus.

Propose ways to save lives and save us from a deadly virus while at the same time decentralizing power and empowering individuals. If you care...this is what you do.

[jojo69]

Facebook

well

there is the first problem

you and I are not even living in the same world

I can see how you might get all wrapped up and frustrated looking at that garbage.

[Hueristic]

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In my wee years of living, I have witnessed a fuckload of bailouts to portions of society that do not deserve it...

People need to stop calling it "Bailouts" and "stimulus" and all the other bullshit jargon and call it what it is, Welfare.

or... "theft"

Its the same thing people that people that hate welfare yell for to give to the 1%, they can't stand the word welfare even though that is exactly what they are getting. It used to be calling a spade a spade but I think someone told me thats not politically correct to say. Funny thing about that is I used to think it was referring to a shovel until someone said hey man thats racist.

Funny the power of words.

[Elwar]

Facebook

well

there is the first problem

you and I are not even living in the same world

I can see how you might get all wrapped up and frustrated looking at that garbage.

Not enough people on MINDS yet.

If you get news from the broadcast media then you are correct, we are not in the same world.

I mainly watch LBRY channels these days.

[Wekkel]

Alts moving up again. This could mean that confidence is rising again.

[Ibian]

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In my wee years of living, I have witnessed a fuckload of bailouts to portions of society that do not deserve it...

People need to stop calling it "Bailouts" and "stimulus" and all the other bullshit jargon and call it what it is, Welfare.

Theft.

Edit: beaten to it

[jojo69]

If you get news from the broadcast media then you are correct, we are not in the same world.

I think you are falling prey to your own preconceptions about people that might not wholly agree with you.

My primary newsfeed (well, after last of the V8s) is ZeroHedge.  I usually check bbc.com/news/world just to see what the mainstream spin is, but I find its liberal bias rather obvious.  I also like to stay abreast of Hackaday and KrebsOnSecurity.

I am almost entirely isolated from broadcast media.

I find your lack of recognition of any nuance a little off-putting; either you are with Elwar or you are with the tyrants.

[Ibian]

There are 3 things that need to be balanced in a pandemic. The medical problem that is the virus itself, the economy, and civil liberties.

We are far past worrying about the virus (for now, until and if coronii-chan comes around). The biggest problem now is the increasingly tyrannical measures states are putting into place. The lockdown has to end. The state only ever tightens the noose, they never loosen it. Even the economy is a distant secondary concern at this point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvDRW43Hfi0

Ireland is a shitshow. England too. I'm surprised how far and how fast things have changed. Things will only get worse and spread to more countries the longer this goes on.

[mindrust]

I´m about to puke..

We dont deserve this 2 days before halving..

Welcome to the club. Want some more puke-cocktail?

[Elwar]

If you get news from the broadcast media then you are correct, we are not in the same world.

I think you are falling prey to your own preconceptions about people that might not wholly agree with you.

My primary newsfeed (well, after last of the V8s) is ZeroHedge.  I usually check bbc.com/news/world just to see what the mainstream spin is, but I find its liberal bias rather obvious.  I also like to stay abreast of Hackaday and KrebsOnSecurity.

I am almost entirely isolated from broadcast media.

I find your lack of recognition of any nuance a little off-putting; either you are with Elwar or you are with the tyrants.

Supporting the hype while understanding history can only mean that you want concentration camps and gas chambers. If you can't see the obviousness of it all then you're only supporting tyranny via ignorance.

The gas chambers this time around will be a softer gentler approach...
Vaccines utilizing radical new technology that's never been tested will do the trick in a much easier way. They're already implementing plenty of measures to ensure people get the vaccine without forcing them. But they will be given little to no choice.

[lightfoot]

The gas chambers this time around will be a softer gentler approach...

Vaccines utilizing radical new technology that's never been tested will do the trick in a much easier way. They're already implementing plenty of measures to ensure people get the vaccine without forcing them. But they will be given little to no choice.

A softer, gentler gas chamber?

Hm.

[ivomm]

I´m about to puke..

We dont deserve this 2 days before halving..

Welcome to the club. Want some more puke-cocktail?

Is this you r0ach? Where is mindrust and what have you done with him? After a 2.65x increase since the bottom at 3.8K a month ago, this was the second small correction - a 15% flash sell of which half was immediately recovered. Come on, even stocks and fiat take such dips, especially in the last months. And besides, puking never stops anyone from enjoying the roller coasters, right?  

[jojo69]

If you get news from the broadcast media then you are correct, we are not in the same world.

I think you are falling prey to your own preconceptions about people that might not wholly agree with you.

My primary newsfeed (well, after last of the V8s) is ZeroHedge.  I usually check bbc.com/news/world just to see what the mainstream spin is, but I find its liberal bias rather obvious.  I also like to stay abreast of Hackaday and KrebsOnSecurity.

I am almost entirely isolated from broadcast media.

I find your lack of recognition of any nuance a little off-putting; either you are with Elwar or you are with the tyrants.

Supporting the hype while understanding history can only mean that you want concentration camps and gas chambers. If you can't see the obviousness of it all then you're only supporting tyranny via ignorance.

The gas chambers this time around will be a softer gentler approach...
Vaccines utilizing radical new technology that's never been tested will do the trick in a much easier way. They're already implementing plenty of measures to ensure people get the vaccine without forcing them. But they will be given little to no choice.

I am disappointed Elwar.

I love your past work, and I hear your frustration, but you have recently taken to talking past without actually engaging.

[mindrust]

I´m about to puke..

We dont deserve this 2 days before halving..

Welcome to the club. Want some more puke-cocktail?

Is this you r0ach? Where is mindrust and what have you done with him? After a 2.65x increase since the bottom at 3.8K a month ago, this was the second small correction - a 15% flash sell of which half was immediately recovered. Come on, even stocks and fiat take such dips, especially in the last months. And besides, puking never stops anyone from enjoying the roller coasters, right?  

Bash me all you want man. What is done is done. Am I not even allowed to make jokes now?

wtf is wrong with you roaching me for over a joke. fuck you.  

[Elwar]

If you get news from the broadcast media then you are correct, we are not in the same world.

I think you are falling prey to your own preconceptions about people that might not wholly agree with you.

My primary newsfeed (well, after last of the V8s) is ZeroHedge.  I usually check bbc.com/news/world just to see what the mainstream spin is, but I find its liberal bias rather obvious.  I also like to stay abreast of Hackaday and KrebsOnSecurity.

I am almost entirely isolated from broadcast media.

I find your lack of recognition of any nuance a little off-putting; either you are with Elwar or you are with the tyrants.

Supporting the hype while understanding history can only mean that you want concentration camps and gas chambers. If you can't see the obviousness of it all then you're only supporting tyranny via ignorance.

The gas chambers this time around will be a softer gentler approach...
Vaccines utilizing radical new technology that's never been tested will do the trick in a much easier way. They're already implementing plenty of measures to ensure people get the vaccine without forcing them. But they will be given little to no choice.

I am disappointed Elwar.

I love your past work, and I hear your frustration, but you have recently taken to talking past without actually engaging.

I don't recall ever engaging in this thread.

I'm like the lone hero that walks through the store letting out a silent but deadly, walking out before anyone knows what just happened.