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[Tash]

San Marino has had 41 deaths out of a population of 33,000.  

So that suggests about 3,300 cases or about 10% of the population.  

So San Marino has by far the highest death rate in the world per head of population but is a long way from herd immunity.  

San Marino last three weeks no deaths.
The same disease at the same time and some countrys health systems show they are not in good health.

[JSRAW]

Holding bitcoin is always pretty stressful.

[...]

Not really. Not for me anyway. In fact, I've never slept better in my entire life since I became a HoDLer.

For a stress-free Bitcoin experience, you need 3 things:

1. Some capital to start you off, which you consider "already lost" the moment you exchange it for BTC.
2. Patience.
3. Believing in the idea/algorithm.

It's like a religion really, except that it is backed by science, and paradise is guaranteed to come in this lifetime.

cant wait for the 72 WO virgins waiting for me in heaven....

Roachie already applying in virgin category so careful what you wish for. 

[vapourminer]

Sorry to break your COVID skirmish guys, but we're almost touching 10k now... now this is getting interesting

hey youre off topi-

oh wait

looks like it bounced off ~9.95k or so but this is fine 

[psycodad]

...guaranteed females and they will be handsome too...

Females... Handsome? 

Ah well, thanks for pointing out that you do not use handsome for ladies, wasn't really aware of that. I edited my post accordingly.

#sohomo

This is fine.

[bkbirge]

Kind of surprised this didn't happen sooner.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitmex-faces-lawsuit-for-alleged-racketeering-and-extensive-illicit-activities

The lawsuit notes that BitMEX provides traders with extremely high trading leverage (100x) for highly liquid derivatives, which are purportedly calculated based on prices of “two or three illiquid spot exchanges.”

The exchange allegedly enables manipulators and money launderers to operate illicitly by allowing them to open an unlimited number of anonymous and unverified accounts, without trading or withdrawal limits.

The document claims that BitMEX weaponizes deliberate server freezes and uses fraudulent “system overload” events to accept or reject specific trading orders during volatile market conditions in order to exacerbate price fluctuations and trigger maximum liquidations.

[vapourminer]

I might need some pointers, regarding:

"how to NOT become too nervous during times in which the BTC price is going down - like it's falling off a cliff, and when I am assessing myself to be running out of money to buy more?"

hopefully the thing on your back that says "ACME - the name you can trust" has a parachute and not dirty socks.

other than that i just keep in the back of my mind thats its not really there.. ie lost.

but you already know that.

[ivomm]

Kind of surprised this didn't happen sooner.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitmex-faces-lawsuit-for-alleged-racketeering-and-extensive-illicit-activities

The lawsuit notes that BitMEX provides traders with extremely high trading leverage (100x) for highly liquid derivatives, which are purportedly calculated based on prices of “two or three illiquid spot exchanges.”

The exchange allegedly enables manipulators and money launderers to operate illicitly by allowing them to open an unlimited number of anonymous and unverified accounts, without trading or withdrawal limits.

The document claims that BitMEX weaponizes deliberate server freezes and uses fraudulent “system overload” events to accept or reject specific trading orders during volatile market conditions in order to exacerbate price fluctuations and trigger maximum liquidations.

Yeah, like the last "accidental" freeze on 12th March, when the shorter manipulators weren't allow to take profits. The day Bitmex is closed will be the best day ever for Bitcoin.

The lawsuit further points to the defendants’ own admission, after multiple denials, that the exchange operates its own for-profit trading desk, which purportedly trades against BitMEX’s own customers on the platform and uses inside information about its customers’ existing trading positions.

It is just like a casino - the players vs the house. Most of the people addicted to gambling lose at the end more than they gained, because the odds are in favour of the casino. Only if someone is extremely good and manage to control his  greed, he will have a chance of winning. In this case it is even worse: the house knows the cards of the players, so it ALWAYS wins. Just a word of warning to those greedy bastards that are confident their plan of shorting and dumping will make them insanely rich. Simply said: No! The only check you will get out of Bitmex is reality check!

[criptix]

Stock Market is on the brink of another 30-50% leg down...

Imagine what will happen if #Bitcoin  gains 20-30% in the same period

Imagine the institutional FOMO...
https://twitter.com/ivanontech/status/1262096421391683586?s=21

That indeed would be sweet

Ivanontech is one of the biggest idiots on crypto twitter ugh.

He is so dumb, he even supports RHs hex scam.

[vapourminer]

Not gonna happen at this point. Too much liquidity in the system already and everyone knows that if stocks do fall, the Fed will step in to print more money to prop them back up.

Even if stocks did fall, BTC will fall along with them. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just refusing to learn from what happened last time around. The best argument I've heard about BTC not being correlated with the stock market is "it's a short term correlation." This may be true, but its a correlation nonetheless, that occurs during a critical time period.

But I do expect the impact of a stock sell down on the Bitcoin price to be less this time. They know how hard it can (will) rebound.

This could very well be the case.

Not sure that's true. Bitcoin is looking more and more like Gold, in that in extreme stress events it's correlated, because when people need cash in hurry they sell anything liquid to meet margin calls, but outside those extreme events, they have very little correlation. Gold sold off hard in 2008, but 6 months later was at all time highs, I would not be surprised to see stock fall heavily again, but bitcoin keep climbing. The Fed can't prop stocks up indefinitely, they can inject confidence, but I'm not convinced by the whole stock market is separate from the economy thing that has been going round. We're still in a deflationary environment, I expect the dollar and bitcoin will go up, stocks will test new lows within a month.

the fed and stockmarket run on hopium, and how long that that lie last? but i see your point, they will do anything to keep the stock market going as pretty much everything in the usa rides on the stock market.

bitcoin may fall along with stocks to a point but in my case when i suddenly need a largish amount fiat for whatever reason (pandemic? yeah right what are the odds of that... oh wait..) i tend to sell off my different classes of stuff (not sure what to call "classes" as i am not a financial guy, i pay people for that) equally if at all possible.

but wtf do i know all i can say for certainty is bitcoin has been very kind to me.

[vapourminer]

Damn 10K smell then back down.... I can see why, from this Monday barbers and hair salons back open in Belgium.... they all sold there satoshi’s to support the haircut 

free the haircuts!

pffft old kindahippee here. ponytail dragging the ground is fine by me. if only i had enough hair..

[Paashaas]

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[Wekkel]

The FED announced that GDP will shrink with 30% in the US.

SPX the next day: opening upside with a gap 

It reminds me of the stock market the day that Hurricane Katrina (2005) landed: stocks shot up big time right in the face of calamity.

This ain't your daddy's stock market anymore. Not since a long time.

If Bitcoin acts 'correlated', let the $10k hurdle fall.... 

[JimboToronto]

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Up last night, down this morning, up some after that... currently $9673USD/$13538CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

C'mon Bitcoin, lets move up.

Damn 10K smell then back down.... I can see why, from this Monday barbers and hair salons back open in Belgium.... they all sold there satoshi’s to support the haircut 

free the haircuts!

pffft old kindahippee here. ponytail dragging the ground is fine by me. if only i had enough hair..

Haircuts? We boomers don't like haircuts.

[Last of the V8s]

Look it's fine. There's no need to fret so. You're making more of it than strictly necessary.
We guarantee* to destroyⁱ allⁱⁱ yourⁱⁱⁱ location data when** this is all over***.
See? Fine.

[Last of the V8s]

[Last of the V8s]

If you are young and broke but not a complete moron, learn miniscript. Do it right now, be earning 150,000 next year.
then stack sats

https://jimmysong.substack.com/p/miniscript-and-its-importance-bitcoin
https://youtu.be/CKyNqV3Ioqo Block Digest #220 - Make Bitcoin Magic Again

[Torque]

If you are young and broke but not a complete moron, learn miniscript. Do it right now, be earning 150,000 next year.
then stack sats

https://jimmysong.substack.com/p/miniscript-and-its-importance-bitcoin
https://youtu.be/CKyNqV3Ioqo Block Digest #220 - Make Bitcoin Magic Again

There's another gem of an article from Gilles Cadignan buried at the bottom of that one, that reiterates why Bitcoin is the only crypto one needs:

https://medium.com/@gillesCadignan/the-other-bitcoin-standard-226e743687dd

[JayJuanGee]

Now, let me explain to all of you why the Swedish government is not closing down society and quarantining people/closing of areas.

This is a little known fact outside Sweden, and it rarely comes up in the debate.
Neither the Swedish government nor the Swedish parliament has the authority to do that.
The Swedish constitution guarantees all citizens the right to free movement in peacetime, no exceptions but one, people with a dangerous contagious disease can be forcefully quarantined according to the contagious disease act. But that only applies to specific individuals.

A hearty tip of the hat to the Swedes for adhering to their written law. Lord knows we Americans abandoned any such fidelity about a century ago.

And here’s to wishing you a full and speedy recovery.

GTFOH jbreher...

WTF are you spouting Jeegs? Firstly, I am speaking of the Supreme Law of the Land -- and the relation between the Swede's to theirs, and we to ours. I salute them for their adherence to written law, and I bemoan us for our clear abandonment of ours.

Those kinds of original intention argument frameworks are frequently used to perpetuate superficial and nonsensical generalizations, and nobody's got time for dat.

Actually, just shup. You have no point to be made in this conversation. Unless you want to start over from a completely different trajectory.

I do have a point, which is frequently it is better to work from where you are at, rather than trying to start over from some idealized starting point, which is the nonsense that you seem to be spouting.

Jeebus-fick you can be such a twat some times.

Hm?  for some reason you have a knack for identifying twats, now?  

You would be hilarious if you weren't so often engaging in disingenuine arguments.  

Stock Market is on the brink of another 30-50% leg down...

Imagine what will happen if #Bitcoin  gains 20-30% in the same period

Imagine the institutional FOMO...
https://twitter.com/ivanontech/status/1262096421391683586?s=21

That indeed would be sweet

I don't want to "imagine."  Makes me feel disconnected.   

[vapourminer]

[...] and nobody's got time for dat.

well.. ya know.. if perhaps you could cut back just a wee tad on the word count we would have more..

never mind

[jojo69]

Christ I was on the verge of going up one pant-waist size...