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[Cryptotourist]

I would say that you need to prosecute people that break the law.

Yeah, completely fuck all the people that don't wear a mask or do vaccines, and/or like to move on this Earth as free people.

Existing laws are sufficient, they just need to be enforced.

Are you sure mother fucker? Because if not, you can always make a few laws up.

In particular, people that murder police officers who are trying to do their job need to face the full force of the law.

This is a very sensitive topic. Murder is murder of course, nothing more to add there.
But tell me, how do you fight back "the full force of the law" and subsequently the people that blissfully enforce it?
Tea?

Law throughout history, is a very interesting topic to follow.

This was an attempted militia coup, and we are all very lucky that it failed.

Do you really have to convince us?

The fact that a number of rioters were carrying large packages of zip tie restraints indicates they intended to use them.

Whatever.you.say. Mr Agent Provocateur.

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[Cryptotourist]

Now where are my fucking Yaoi's?

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Good afternoon WO!
Observing @ $35,450

Who were panicking yesterday and sold low? 😛

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Pity that kenzawak guy isn’t around anymore....

Yeah, how it all changed for him.

I remember his account was hacked twice and some of us left negative. This should not effect him since he did not do any trade on the forum. But no one thought he will leave us.

[psycodad]

I do not really get this discussion about censorship. I don't see any censorship here, I see (rather large) companies exercising their contractual freedom in highly centralized environment. I'll admit that these times there is a narrowly defined narrative what is the right thing to say and think and often companies trying to avoid customer unhappiness in form of a shitstorm tend to follow that narrative to please their customer/user base.

But since you are basically unheard/invisible if you're not on Twitter (anymore) it is a form of censorship nonetheless nowadays. It is somehow ironic how many BTC-enthusiasts actually use Twitter and not something like mastodon. Decentralization does not only fix the monetary system, it would also fix social networks and energy production etc.. Email for example is decentralized, gmail might kick you, but then you can use hotmail (or go straight to protonmail if you're one of the brighter candles on the cake) or even register your own domain and run it from your living room on a rpi.

If Amazon decides not to deal anymore with Parler, that is fine by me. If Jack Dorsey thinks the orange nutjob is not worth the trouble anymore, that's his decision. People unhappy with that or missing the wisdom of Donnie should vote with their feet/d and use another company for their needs.
What keeps them from running their own infrastructure? Mind you, that was actually the thought behind the internet, being decentralized and everybody being able to run a service on their own computers.

One addition to the above, I might have left the impression that you and I are customers of Twitter or Parler or Facebook, that is not what I meant. We are in fact a supplier, we deliver the product that Facebook sells to advertisers, governments and aliens (basically everbody who pays for it). In turn we are paid for our generous delivery (you'd be astonished what the data about you - your data is worth to them) with "free" services that we can use. This bargain seems obviously too good for most of us to take care and take things into our own hands (i.e. using open standards like Jabber) and run our own services or use easily exchangeable small service providers that offer that to us for a small fee.

[Tash]

The FBI has announced this individual is being sought for the murder of the police officer.  You can see him holding the fire extinguisher.
Some people have suggested that CFD means Chicago Fire Department.   I don’t know about that.

Looks like they found him, and CFD indeed stands for Chicago Fire Department

https://twitter.com/PamWolf12896175/status/1348866191528493056

Can just as well mean "Cheyenne Frontier Days" with matching shirt. Wyoming cowboys and such.

[dieselmeister]

I am sure that the division will continue under Biden, Trump voters feel cheated of their victory and do not accept the new president. You can see even here how deluded some people are.

Just like Hillary voters felt cheated of their victory and decided not to accept the result...

Man, yeah, those 2016 riots. Such a tragic loss of so many lives.

I have the feeling that some of you forgot about the riots earlier this year. Where people died and buildings burned down. But these were mostly peaceful protest and to make the assumtion that all BLM protestors are responsible for these riots and death is not okay. BUT when its come to the "Trump supporters" then they all equal and are all responsible. Maybe the ones who vote for him too. Yes the voters of Trump are responsible too. That's hypocrite. And btw the leader of BLM call explicit for more violence on twitter if I remember correctly.

I read here that all Trumps supporters are responsible for the roits and how can you defend them. Then I ask. "all BLM Supportes are responsible for the riots, how can you defend them? Or at least be silent". This is stupid. I my opinion you are responsible for your self for your actions. If you do bad things, you belong to jail. If I like someone, I am not responsible for the action of other, who like him too. This is midevil.

rioters are rioters. They must be convicted and go to jail. But some rioters are more equal. Because I read 90 of 1xx antifa rioters where not convicted at all. But maybe here we get the same outcome. Some of them will be convicted, because they are criminals and are responsible for the death of people. Some are not. We will see.

Sorry. I am a little tired of this discussion. I see this all on twitter the whole day long. I am even not a citizen at all. We will see, what the next 4 years bring to the rest of the world. I fear, that war is comming again. So even if you hate Trump to the bones, at least he didn't start a new war and you can ignore the rest of his achievements.

But overall I like this thread. At least you didn't go each other agains the throat. And block each other. Because we have all something in common here and this is the bitcoin, its price and getting rich as hell to be not part of this crazy world and its problems any more. Buy an island and let the rest do what ever they want to do ...

[dieselmeister]

Tulsi Gabbard (D) is someone that everyone could have rallied around . She is all about common sense.

In this interview she tells how there are very few moderates left in the Democratic party. She is awesome. Have a listen to what she says about the corruption in DC.

Ex-Congresswoman Exposes the Reality of the DNC & Govt. | Tulsi Gabbard | POLITICS | Rubin Report
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3j3RSxMSEg

And she rosted Harris like hell in the presidential debate. Sadly Harris will be your next president für 3 1/2 year or so.

[joburgtaxi]

 good old days but I think we can not compare these two different realities

[dieselmeister]

Hey, this is Trump's chance to pardon cop killers.  What's not to like?

like Clinton pardoned the bomber of the capitol? I think not. But that's the problem. Some of you thought really, that you lived for 4 years in a facist dictatorship and finally you voted the dictator out of  the office. I lived in a country with a dictatorship. Let me tell you this. "You don't vote a facist dictator out of the office". So You thought really that Trump will pardon a cop killer. I am sure that you believe this with you heart like other believe they lived in a facist dictatorship the last 4 years.

[rolling]

I do not really get this discussion about censorship. I don't see any censorship here, I see (rather large) companies exercising their contractual freedom in highly centralized environment. I'll admit that these times there is a narrowly defined narrative what is the right thing to say and think and often companies trying to avoid customer unhappiness in form of a shitstorm tend to follow that narrative to please their customer/user base.

But since you are basically unheard/invisible if you're not on Twitter (anymore) it is a form of censorship nonetheless nowadays. It is somehow ironic how many BTC-enthusiasts actually use Twitter and not something like mastodon. Decentralization does not only fix the monetary system, it would also fix social networks and energy production etc.. Email for example is decentralized, gmail might kick you, but then you can use hotmail (or go straight to protonmail if you're one of the brighter candles on the cake) or even register your own domain and run it from your living room on a rpi.

If Amazon decides not to deal anymore with Parler, that is fine by me. If Jack Dorsey thinks the orange nutjob is not worth the trouble anymore, that's his decision. People unhappy with that or missing the wisdom of Donnie should vote with their feet/d and use another company for their needs.
What keeps them from running their own infrastructure? Mind you, that was actually the thought behind the internet, being decentralized and everybody being able to run a service on their own computers.

One addition to the above, I might have left the impression that you and I are customers of Twitter or Parler or Facebook, that is not what I meant. We are in fact a supplier, we deliver the product that Facebook sells to advertisers, governments and aliens (basically everbody who pays for it). In turn we are paid for our generous delivery (you'd be astonished what the data about you - your data is worth to them) with "free" services that we can use. This bargain seems obviously too good for most of us to take care and take things into our own hands (i.e. using open standards like Jabber) and run our own services or use easily exchangeable small service providers that offer that to us for a small fee.

Anything that is removed, is by definition, censorship, whatever the motivation for removing it. Even if there are 100 twitters, if the industry as a whole deletes posts of a certain type, it has the same effect as mass censorship.

To ensure we remain a free society, censorship must be fought whatever the form. Even if that form is the profit seeking of media companies.

There is just too much temptation for political corruption and manipulation of opinions by deciding what gets removed and what remains. Only laws should determine that because laws are voted on by our representatives and can't as easily be manipulated as an employee making a biased decision about a post.

[soullyG]

Grayscale have opened up investments into their crypto trusts again (except ETH for some reason):

As of the time of writing, products such as the Grayscale Bitcoin Trust and the Grayscale Digital Large Cap Fund Trust are all available for new investors, although the Grayscale Ethereum Trust remains unavailable. The Grayscale XRP Trust is inactive, and will likely remain so.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/grayscale-reopens-crypto-trusts-for-investment-as-bitcoin-price-climbs

[Phil_S]

If Amazon decides not to deal anymore with Parler, that is fine by me.

What keeps them from running their own infrastructure?

Mind you, not only Amazon kicked them off their infrastructure, but at the same time Apple and Google removed their mobile app.
Feels very centralized and coordinated.

[Wekkel]

Meanwhile, new bear attack. Looking forward reading what the experts think of all this.

[BitcoinBunny]

If Amazon decides not to deal anymore with Parler, that is fine by me.

What keeps them from running their own infrastructure?

Mind you, not only Amazon kicked them off their infrastructure, but at the same time Apple and Google removed their mobile app.
Feels very centralized and coordinated.

Because they are cowards they only make big moves like that in unison.

The Apple meme was good: "Think different*" *until we don't like your thoughts.

When people make the justification that these are private companies and can do what they wish, that would be fine IF voices didn't target the infrastructure of the internet as well.
AWS is used everywhere, it is even used to power Netflix whilst Amazon has a competing video platform.

If people still see Gab or Parler somewhere after the apps are taken down and big hosting providers cancel them, they go after ICANN, ISPS etc.

It is totally ridiculous if the material posted is not illegal. Isis posted killings and propaganda on Twitter and on Youtube. Should they also be deplatformed, or are they for some reason too big and too inconvenient to lose?

Furthermore I bet most people don't even know that Parler actually followed some form of authentication with a phone number whilst you only ever needed an anonymous email address and can just sign up like trolling egg on Twitter.

[BobLawblaw]

I can't do it.

I can't post explicit yaoi.

I'm trying to view everything through the lens of a calm, right-of-center constitutionalist, on a rational level. Not through either clinical democratic or republican lenses, tainted by current events.

We're hurdling towards communism and people are cheering it on.

I'm just really sad waking and catching up on the last couple pages.

[600watt]

The FBI has made a public statement that there is no evidence the Antifa were part of the Trump riot.  They should know as they have already arrested over 93 rioters.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/01/08/fbi-no-evidence-antifa-involved-in-capitol-chaos/?sh=1a52d8726379

Damn communist organisation FBI protecting it's left-wing comrades!

careful, p-shep. some might not catch the sarcasm. 

[True Myth]

Meanwhile, new bear attack. Looking forward reading what the experts think of all this.

I may be wrong but, I think this looks like normal market movement.  

I had done some TA last night and assumed an overly strong rebound after the dip followed by another short dip before leveling off.  I'm assuming we will see some short up and down in the 33k to 36k range before leveling off and moving upward again.

I've been wrong before though.

*Edit - all of my buy orders have executed except one at $32.5 that was set to make me feel better if we dropped below my TA.

[P_Shep]

The FBI has made a public statement that there is no evidence the Antifa were part of the Trump riot.  They should know as they have already arrested over 93 rioters.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/01/08/fbi-no-evidence-antifa-involved-in-capitol-chaos/?sh=1a52d8726379

Damn communist organisation FBI protecting it's left-wing comrades!

careful, p-shep. some might not catch the sarcasm. 

Shut up! Even manatees support Trump!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55631498

[EatonABooger]

Tulsi Gabbard (D) is someone that everyone could have rallied around . She is all about common sense.

In this interview she tells how there are very few moderates left in the Democratic party. She is awesome. Have a listen to what she says about the corruption in DC.

Ex-Congresswoman Exposes the Reality of the DNC & Govt. | Tulsi Gabbard | POLITICS | Rubin Report
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3j3RSxMSEg

Right.  I was thinking she would help the left swallow the jagged pill of Trump in office the next 4 years by her being the vice-president (replacing Pence).    They will need something to keep their heads from exploding when he removes the Biden admin.