Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[cAPSLOCK]

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I think this might be important.

Holland just took a step towards securing wealth for their nation.

This line will keep being drawn more starkly, and the results will define the world in the coming era.  The sooner the better.

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[Arriemoller]

Looks better with black background.

I will bear it in mind. This was a minimal effort resurrection.

Please stop resurrecting and let the idiot die.

What's the fucking point of chart buddy? it doesn't give any information that we don't already have. Everybody in here watches bitcoinity all the time anyway. It's just irritating.
The reason I wasn't active in this thread earlier was actually because of chart buddy, every time you dropped in on this thread you would see that fucking bot in post after post, taking up space and giving no useful information.
I basically stayed in the "Gentlemen..." thread or did not post at all until the idiot poster was gone.

[Sayeds56]

Tbh i'm never in favor for a DIP, though I very obviously understand that they are needed... Have experienced a lot of things last days, weeks, months.... Where do I start?

I always like the higher price valuations ... Though I hate selling or nearly never sell (When its needed at the most and still)
^But I think thats how a lot of hodlers think.

Now new people all need to be hardened or need to GTFO, cause every single "pleb" "n00b" "friend of a friend" "viewer of the news whom see a massive pump but never hear of BTC before" Etc Etc They are all in for quick and fast gains... Though they get greedy as price only rise and dips minimum so they stick with there investment and feast like nothing can go wrong, these are those people who needs to be shaken to there core... 1 of 10 maybe stay positively involved... Most run away with fear and re enter higher in a next massive UP trent to then again act the same until they sometimes understand after some punishments, maybe a truly fundamental knowing is "this isn't a get rich fast ride"

So I have set up a whatss app group for "crypto" only friends of me and two-three other "better hodler" (better not perfect, sometimes a bit of to much alt koolaid, but not the worst, they learned not more as 20% .... btw me I think MAX 2%)
But in this group growing fast some family and friends and...

Boy the fear that I have seen today, while I provided the TOP best info around BBTC and links from the forum and just best best the best to read articles, security, fundamentals etc (no one there knows i'm active here)
But like one of the lads is a car seller as main job (big BMW garage 100+ employees) I think 20-30% bought crypto except one or something they all sold bottom-ish today, also they where fighting kraken to re enter more high prices but couldn't log in etc cause you guys know exchanges and DIPS

But with these events I understand why we DIP like this, the trash truly need to be flushed out from the scene to truly have some solid base to build uppon....

I hodled 5 eth for I guy who works for me, last week he finally had an exchange account and ask me to send him today, he was with me on the bottom while asking, hard to get only but when I was he asked me can you also send me in dollars?? He preferred $ Over BTC or his original ETH, though I couldn't and send him the original, but also willing to instant sell the bottom whiteout a second thought...

I hope we all agree that these DIPs maybe are truly needed and better fast and hard instead long and slow if I can chose.

I am not sure why you are seeming surprised by human inclinations that seem to be stubborn and reluctant to learn from information that is being fed right to their lil greedy snouts.. hahahahaha.   

These great dips mostly ONLY assist those of us who already have been able to differentiate the superior information from the noise, and to be able to act upon the superior information because we already have various systems set up.  That would include guys like Michael Saylor too.. who likely ongoingly continue to blow our wadds as our new cash comes in... hahhahha..

Of course, there are going to be a few guys who will actually transition over from being a retard into actually engaging in the kind of behavior that longer term BTC HODLers are attempting to get them to do for their own good.

In the end, lost of peeps are dumb fucks and it takes them a while to come around and they tend to need to come around at their own pace, which might not actually be as financially profitable as it could have been.
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There is ONLY so much that anyone of us can actually do to help to save normies from their lil selfies - if they are having trouble both recognizing the valuable information and also they may even vocally recognize that they should have followed your advice in the past blah blah blah.. but fail and refuse to take immediate action in terms of getting their fucking accounts set up and even making some actual buys of BTC in the event that they already have accounts set up.

So in the end, what ends up happening is that largely already existing BTC HODLers like you, me, Saylor and like minded peeps, continue to accrue BTC and maybe even overly accrue at prices that are higher than the current price that we are running out of money at the peaks of the dips.. even if maybe we still are able to pick up a few in the lower $30ks, we had been acquiring in the $50ks and the $40ks, too... but BIG whatevers to us, even though we could have done a bit better with more reservations, but we are still likely going to kill it in the end.. while fence sitters are largely telling us we could have gotten our BTC way cheaper and while they are accumulating their first .021BTC, we have largely acquired magnitudes of their BTC quantities and NOT always at the "best of prices" along this difficult to figure out short-term path that we end up largely nailing in the long-term because of our persistence and our beliefs.

Sure, some of us blew a lot of our load in the $50ks. but many of us also were able to overall accumulate some in the $40ks and $30ks too... and likely these $30ks are not going to last very long (relatively speaking) even though they might seem like they are lasting an eternity as we are living through them (without as much fiat as we wished we were to have).... 

In other words, fuck the newbs.. sure expose them and continue to interact with them, but you can ONLY do too much.  By the way, your post reminds me of a couple of folks who I had been interacting with quite extensively in recent times, so one was worthy of sending a reminder message to which kind of shows ongoing hemming and hawing about matters that should be quite obvious but do not seem to be from that person's perspective.. and another one I am ONLY going to interact with if contacted directly or bump into that person.. I am not going to go out of my way.. even though we spoke in person already a couple times about bitcoin in the past week and I really have the sense that there was quite a bit of talk there an absolutely no meaningful action.. and quite a bit should have been accomplishable in the past week, no?  Seems to me... but whatever. 

Seems to me that I was able to acquire a shit-ton of BTC over the past week or so, relatively speaking - even though I am NOT even really in an acquisition mode currently, and should be way reluctant to acquire BTC than someone who has little to no actual stake (meaning a largely insufficient stake whether we are talking about objective considerations or even if we were to help them in finding their own subjective stake numbers)... 

This will be interesting wedge upper zone has resistance with 200 daily ema and bottom has support with 200 daily MA




Source: https://t.me/OfficialCryptoIndia/8205

[bitcoinPsycho]

Looks better with black background.

I will bear it in mind. This was a minimal effort resurrection.

Please stop resurrecting and let the idiot die.

What's the fucking point of chart buddy? it doesn't give any information that we don't already have. Everybody in here watches bitcoinity all the time anyway. It's just irritating.
The reason I wasn't active in this thread earlier was actually because of chart buddy, every time you dropped in on this thread you would see that fucking bot in post after post, taking up space and giving no useful information.
I basically stayed in the "Gentlemen..." thread or did not post at all until the idiot poster was gone.

I think your in the minority. You can choose to ignore

[gembitz]

Recovered to slightly above $40,000 again. I’m such a bi polar douche but I’m feeling bullish now. Imagine how many coins have exchanged hands from pathetic noobs to seasoned pros. Give it a couple of weeks for the dust to settle, this might be a good thing.

$150,000 by the end of 2021.

Only the bravest will succeed.

HODL.

i will rebuy with real money when we go sub 10K \_#_#_/reeeeeee

[Dabs]

Yeah, it's a bot, you can ignore a bot. But this is "Wall Observer", and ChartBuddy is the best Wall Observer of all, observing the wall all the time, all day, every day. Hopefully it only posts every few hours and not every hour.

[Wekkel]

After all those years, I still don’t know how to ready Chartbuddy charts. And no, the ‘explanation’ doesn’t cut it for me.

I’m the dumb money here 

[Richy_T]

My tolerance for whining is zero right now so I shut Chartbuddy off. I notice also that the price dropped after I did so so draw your own conclusions.

[Arriemoller]

Looks better with black background.

I will bear it in mind. This was a minimal effort resurrection.

Please stop resurrecting and let the idiot die.

What's the fucking point of chart buddy? it doesn't give any information that we don't already have. Everybody in here watches bitcoinity all the time anyway. It's just irritating.
The reason I wasn't active in this thread earlier was actually because of chart buddy, every time you dropped in on this thread you would see that fucking bot in post after post, taking up space and giving no useful information.
I basically stayed in the "Gentlemen..." thread or did not post at all until the idiot poster was gone.

I think your in the minority. You can choose to ignore

I think you are just a loud minority, just like the BLM et al. And he is already on ignore.
I might ignore Ricky as well as a matter of principle.

Edited.

[strawbs]

I think it's time for a new poll. There can be only one question - to allow Chart Buddy or not?

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Sub $40,000 again?

Oh fuck off.

[Arriemoller]

I think it's time for a new poll. There can be only one question - to allow Chart Buddy or not?

I second that, and I will stop whining if I lose. And there will be no ignoring of Rick.
But if the bot wins, let's have another poll after, say six months, when all the n00bs have felt the annoyance.
It's hard for them to have an opinion on something they haven't experienced.
Having said that, I understand the nostalgia that some old posters in here might feel, I just never could stand Chart buddy.

[bitcoinPsycho]

Seems everyone's on their periods 🤔

[cAPSLOCK]

I am appreciative of Chart Buddy.

I was a lurker on this thread for the first ~3-4 years.

I first got into bitcoin for Poker.  And almost all of my posting between 2011-2013-14 was related to poker.  I remember getting my first deleted post in the "Show your mining rigs" thread where I posted a picture of me sitting at a Seals with Clubs table.  But that WAS my mining rig.

But I watched this thread, and would, from time to time read through a few pages.

But I used to like to see the Chart Buddy posts.  

In fact I remember that a post from it would spark some conversation about a huge sell or buy wall, and at the time I was really just beginning to understand why that data was helpful, or at least interesting and meaningful.

Anyway, I think it is a great thing for this thread, which may even be  more on-topic than 90% of our posts, and that it will spark discussion.

I think for the minority that finds it annoying, the IGNORE button is an acceptable compromise.  Unless the majority finds it negative, in which case I would yield to the majority.  But my impression is most find it a +.

I agree it does not need to post super often.  (although I used to get a kick out of, during the quiet times, how it would post a page full of graphs. )

[Biodom]

Sub $40,000 again?

Oh fuck off.

40K is just a number now.
We shall observe 42-43K, which was support before, but now a resistance line.
Besides, some kind of retest is healthy.
When something bounces back straight up to lower highs from a deep plunge, it is typically a bear market behavior.
We are good for the moment-consolidating.

[Arriemoller]

My tolerance for whining is zero right now so I shut Chartbuddy off. I notice also that the price dropped after I did so so draw your own conclusions.

I think the price went down because no one posted any Pentecost cards.

[cAPSLOCK]

My tolerance for whining is zero right now so I shut Chartbuddy off. I notice also that the price dropped after I did so so draw your own conclusions.

This is sad, but I respect your right to do exactly as you please with it.

I look forward to the poll.  I would love to know if it's overwhelming in one way or the other, or if it's more 50/50 which would be more difficult.  I would find that poll interesting whether Richy decides to turn CB back on or not.  If he was understandably tired of the abuse also someone else could pick it up, assuming the poll turned out the way I would bet, which is entirely based on my own bias.

[Arriemoller]

I am appreciative of Chart Buddy.

I was a lurker on this thread for the first ~3-4 years.

I first got into bitcoin for Poker.  And almost all of my posting between 2011-2013-14 was related to poker.  I remember getting my first deleted post in the "Show your mining rigs" thread where I posted a picture of me sitting at a Seals with Clubs table.  But that WAS my mining rig.

But I watched this thread, and would, from time to time read through a few pages.

But I used to like to see the Chart Buddy posts.  

In fact I remember that a post from it would spark some conversation about a huge sell or buy wall, and at the time I was really just beginning to understand why that data was helpful, or at least interesting and meaningful.

Anyway, I thing it is a great thing for this thread, which may even be  more on-topic than 90% of our posts, and that it will spark discussion.

I think for the minority that finds it annoying, the IGNORE button is an acceptable compromise.  Unless the majority finds it negative, in which case I would yield to the majority.  But my impression is most find it a +.

I agree it does not need to post super often.  (although I used to get a kick out of, during the quiet times, how it would post a page full of graphs. )

How do you (or I for that matter) know that a minority dislikes CB.
I also remember the days of a whole page of only CB, and I had the very opposite reaction to yours.

None of you have played the "free speech" card, and I find that a bit depressing in a thread of supposedly mostly libertarians.
I have myself thought about it and decided that all though it is so irritating that it makes my skin crawl, I have decided that my initial reaction was wrong. I will just ignore and let live.
Go resurrect the idiot bot.

[cAPSLOCK]

I am appreciative of Chart Buddy.

I was a lurker on this thread for the first ~3-4 years.

I first got into bitcoin for Poker.  And almost all of my posting between 2011-2013-14 was related to poker.  I remember getting my first deleted post in the "Show your mining rigs" thread where I posted a picture of me sitting at a Seals with Clubs table.  But that WAS my mining rig.

But I watched this thread, and would, from time to time read through a few pages.

But I used to like to see the Chart Buddy posts.  

In fact I remember that a post from it would spark some conversation about a huge sell or buy wall, and at the time I was really just beginning to understand why that data was helpful, or at least interesting and meaningful.

Anyway, I thing it is a great thing for this thread, which may even be  more on-topic than 90% of our posts, and that it will spark discussion.

I think for the minority that finds it annoying, the IGNORE button is an acceptable compromise.  Unless the majority finds it negative, in which case I would yield to the majority.  But my impression is most find it a +.

I agree it does not need to post super often.  (although I used to get a kick out of, during the quiet times, how it would post a page full of graphs. )

How do you (or I for that matter) know that a minority dislikes CB.
I also remember the days of a whole page of only CB, and I had the very opposite reaction to yours.

None of you have played the "free speech" card, and I find that a bit depressing in a thread of supposedly mostly libertarians.
I have myself thought about it and decided that all though it is so irritating that it makes my skin crawl, I have decided that my initial reaction was wrong. I will just ignore and let live.
Go resurrect the idiot bot.

To your first question.  A poll.  We don't know otherwise.

To the free speech argument:

This is a moderated thread on a moderated forum.  I respect the right of the people involved to absolutely limit "free speech".   I think that argument is in error.

Free speech means:

-starting another thread here with no moderation
-starting another bitcoin forum with no moderation
-just using something like 4chan

And I think participating in a moderated, or curated forum IS a form of free speech.

[Arriemoller]

When the CB poll is done, can we please have one regarding the JJG bot?