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May 29, 2021, 02:06:18 PM

https://twitter.com/DaanCrypto/status/1398578848309157893?s=19
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May 29, 2021, 02:06:33 PM

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May 29, 2021, 02:09:36 PM

First of all already one year has past away in reaching the next halving.... second people really losing there mind fast.... first question do you really need the FIAT and if you really needed it, then 50-60k was a long period and nice price to take a little to cover stuff....

But to many negativity from experienced hodlers imho

They need a shift kick in the fucking ass.

Lack of testicles  or to quote a Staten Islander they have "Tick balls"




Don't think any of us have actually sold though, in fact I've been buying (everytime I get paid), because that's what you do in dips. LFC bought all his back too I think. But It's realistic to look at this run and think it may be over due to what we've seen.

In the last cycle ATH everybody was still adament the bull run was not over even after it had dipped 50%, there were some recoveries and I remember Bob retired on one of those. But many (Jay specifically) were denying it for a very long time and only after it went through the 6k level did that actually convince the die hards.

I think its sensible to think that a >50% dip could indicate a bear market. Hopefully, it's not long though and we see a 2013 scenario. A 2013 would make sense with what's going on in the world right now, and the interest we are seeing from the big names. But a 50% correction is pretty fucking decent, that's what happened to stocks in 2007.

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Seriously man that picture was posted 2 pages ago. You should also reference it as it is not your picture.
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Seriously man that picture was posted 2 pages ago. You should also reference it as it is not your picture.

sorry I didn't see that post. Anyway I have deleted my post. thanks
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May 29, 2021, 02:40:19 PM
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First of all already one year has past away in reaching the next halving.... second people really losing there mind fast.... first question do you really need the FIAT and if you really needed it, then 50-60k was a long period and nice price to take a little to cover stuff....

But to many negativity from experienced hodlers imho

They need a shift kick in the fucking ass.

Lack of testicles  or to quote a Staten Islander they have "Tick balls"




Don't think any of us have actually sold though, in fact I've been buying (everytime I get paid), because that's what you do in dips. LFC bought all his back too I think. But It's realistic to look at this run and think it may be over due to what we've seen.

In the last cycle ATH everybody was still adament the bull run was not over even after it had dipped 50%, there were some recoveries and I remember Bob retired on one of those. But many (Jay specifically) were denying it for a very long time and only after it went through the 6k level did that actually convince the die hards.

I think its sensible to think that a >50% dip could indicate a bear market. Hopefully, it's not long though and we see a 2013 scenario. A 2013 would make sense with what's going on in the world right now, and the interest we are seeing from the big names. But a 50% correction is pretty fucking decent, that's what happened to stocks in 2007.



I agree that this could be the beginning of  a bearish period. But it seems to me that you concentrate too much on the 50% correction as if this is something much different than the multiple 40%+ corrections we had in 2017. In fact, it is only 10% bigger. Why should it matter so much? Besides, we've had only 2 weeks of this dump. On the 3rd week we've had some recovery and we are now 15%+ the bottom. If each week that follows this 15% increase to the previous is being kept, then in 6-7 weeks the price should return to 60K. On the other hand, if we repeat the 2018 market which was after a 33x increase, the price may fall 70% which is around 19K. But is this realistic and for how long it will last? To stay one year and then another 50% drop below 10K? I really doubt that this is what is going to happen. But of course there are enough twitter pundits who have such wet dreams. So, in case bears try to dump below 30K, load your excanges with fiat and BTFD! Btw, the lower 2x line shows that the minimal price at the end of 2022 should be $51200. This should give you a hint that a prolonged bear market after only a 6x increase from the last year is theoretically improbable and practically impossible.
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May 29, 2021, 02:51:30 PM
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Many compare a bearish period to much with an actual bearmarket...

Many in need for their big boy pants  Cheesy
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May 29, 2021, 02:51:47 PM
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Everyone keeps looking for some signs as to what King Daddy is going to do next.
Looking at past cycles/charts to try to put some strategy in place to buy and sell.
Only a couple of months ago everyone was screaming well over 100K for this cycle and now there is so much doom and gloom around.
What does it all mean?

I look at it this way.
Why did I get into bitcoin in the first place?
Was it to make a quick buck? Hell no!
I could see that the current financial system was f*cked and guess what?
It still is!!
I bought and held bitcoin because I believe in the future it can bring us all.
It just takes time. Along the way there will be many who enter the space to make a quick buck and this will be reflected in the swings in the market.
That doesn't matter in the long run.
Bitcoin remains the greatest store of value humanity (Satoshi) has invented yet and the world is slowly waking up to that fact.
I for one am not worried about the current price action and continue to HODL every Satoshi.
We will ride the storm as we have always done and that core group, us HODLers are the ones that ensure that btc can never go to zero.
Keep on believing brothers.
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May 29, 2021, 03:01:35 PM


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May 29, 2021, 03:19:08 PM

"MMT LeAds TO ECoNomiC GrOwTh" Lol





source: https://twitter.com/Schuldensuehner/status/1398608521260941316
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May 29, 2021, 03:35:33 PM

I also think the chart looks ugly. But I’m not selling a (Bitcoin) dime. Tempted to buy some more but only at depressed prices (sub $25k). If we ever get there. Bitcoin tends to kick me in the nuts just when I think of doing a Mindrust dump  Shocked Roll Eyes
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May 29, 2021, 03:40:57 PM
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In a large picture, the question of a bear market is not even important. Should bitcoin be worth just 0.4% of all assets and less than 10% of gold? Of course, not.
Focusing on the current situation, it does feel like a bear market. The only question is re the duration of such: either a short one (local) or a longer one (this cycle bear market).
About this point, only time will show.

Overall, we have at least 3.46X wallets in 2021 than in late 2017, maybe much more than that (I am only going from blockchain.com numbers), yet the price is just 70% higher (at the moment).
Therefore, we are lagging the Metcalf's law and, therefore, are SEVERELY undervalued in comparison with 2017.
Albeit, since 2017 peak was overvaluation with the "fair value" back then at $6.7K, then, maybe 6.7X12.08 (square of 4X wallet number increase)=80.9K is the current "fair value".
Typically, bull markets "should" exceed fair valuation by 2-3X, hence 160-240K at the peak is quite reasonable. Should it necessarily come very soon? This part is unclear.

TLDR; according to Metcalf's law and prior "fair" valuation, fair value of bitcoin right now is $81K.
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May 29, 2021, 04:01:26 PM


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May 29, 2021, 04:02:33 PM
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please Girls, calm a bit down. no need to wear brown underwear.

we are still in accumulation according to Wyckoff.

https://school.stockcharts.com/doku.php?id=market_analysis:the_wyckoff_method

Quote from: Accumulation: Wyckoff Phases


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Everyone keeps looking for some signs as to what King Daddy is going to do next.
Looking at past cycles/charts to try to put some strategy in place to buy and sell.
Only a couple of months ago everyone was screaming well over 100K for this cycle and now there is so much doom and gloom around.
What does it all mean?

I look at it this way.
Why did I get into bitcoin in the first place?
Was it to make a quick buck? Hell no!
I could see that the current financial system was f*cked and guess what?
It still is!!
I bought and held bitcoin because I believe in the future it can bring us all.
It just takes time. Along the way there will be many who enter the space to make a quick buck and this will be reflected in the swings in the market.
That doesn't matter in the long run.
Bitcoin remains the greatest store of value humanity (Satoshi) has invented yet and the world is slowly waking up to that fact.
I for one am not worried about the current price action and continue to HODL every Satoshi.
We will ride the storm as we have always done and that core group, us HODLers are the ones that ensure that btc can never go to zero.
Keep on believing brothers.


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May 29, 2021, 04:19:45 PM

In a large picture, the question of a bear market is not even important. Should bitcoin be worth just 0.4% of all assets and less than 10% of gold? Of course, not.
Focusing on the current situation, it does feel like a bear market. The only question is re the duration of such: either a short one (local) or a longer one (this cycle bear market).
About this point, only time will show.

Overall, we have at least 3.46X wallets in 2021 than in late 2017, maybe much more than that (I am only going from blockchain.com numbers), yet the price is just 70% higher (at the moment).
Therefore, we are lagging the Metcalf's law and, therefore, are SEVERELY undervalued in comparison with 2017.
Albeit, since 2017 peak was overvaluation with the "fair value" back then at $6.7K, then, maybe 6.7X12.08 (square of 4X wallet number increase)=80.9K is the current "fair value".
Typically, bull markets "should" exceed fair valuation by 2-3X, hence 160-240K at the peak is quite reasonable. Should it necessarily come very soon? This part is unclear.

TLDR; according to Metcalf's law and prior "fair" valuation, fair value of bitcoin right now is $81K.

Price will follow just as merit.... IOU
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May 29, 2021, 05:43:04 PM

Some of us are just still used to the rising from Q4/2020 to the beginning of Q2/2021.
It's like "bull's hangover", which is to be followed by recovery and finally you go to another party next weekend.
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