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March 22, 2014, 03:53:11 PM

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March 22, 2014, 03:56:19 PM

objectively we are in a b*** market.

To everyone who read this as "objectively we are in a BEAR market", that is not what wetroof is saying. This statement is a joke. Literally. b*** could be bull or it could be bear. Interesting to notice how everyone who has replied to this post this far has read it as bear though...

ok, my bad. I get it. I'm still buying.

Poor analysis of input is the source of much pain. That was hard to watch.
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March 22, 2014, 04:00:58 PM

$555

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March 22, 2014, 04:03:25 PM

objectively we are in a b*** market.

Horse shit. Objectively we are 40% up from the low less than a month ago, >100% up from where were were 4 and a half months agoince then we've added millions of wallets, features, upgrades, merchants, and ATMs.  

ya but we are like 60% down from the ATH and appear to be continuing to drop.

it doesn't scare me, but its depressing...
i just don't get why people are selling!
even with the current infrastructure i believe bitcoin should be 10K
We can spend them very easily on anything, big shit too, you can pay your rent in bitcoins, you can buy F'ing mammoth tusks FFS, mtgox and other bad exchanges have been weeded out, and now we hear talk of "wall street grade" exchanges coming online. Shit is growing & getting better at a phenomenal rate, it doesn't make any sense to me... we should be at 10K already. this is why i'm a buyer, if you told me last year i'd be buying 600$ bitcoin i'd lol hard and say that i would be a seller at 600$ but here i am buying at 600$, because wow.

thats basically my POV as well. There is nothing fundamentally worse about bitcoin - in fact things are much better with infrastructure, ATMs, and many small retailers getting interested.

The real problem is the public opinion - there has been no good news in a while, everything is blurred or focused ont he incompetence of GOX. and while gox keep shoving its foot in thier mouth, all of bitcoin looks less beautiful.

I have two techniques for this:
1) sell a few coins at btc-e or another exchange, just in case it goes lower. if it doesn't, who cares you hedged your bets slightly in case.
2) step back and look at the big picture: more people know what a bitcoin is. they dont know much about it, and most give me a sly 'hows your bitcoins doing?' recently, but the point is people know. Those who it interests will read up on it and start looking for a place to buy in.

i think we are not yet at the bottom, but that we are close. Weve entered an area with major support twice before, and I feel like we could see one or two more bear rushes to slam BTC/USD down to about $500 before the media decides to turn around and give it a few positive articles to swing it up and get some attention

In decmber, I though we would be $1500 now, and >$3000 by year end. I still think we will be $3000 by the end of the year, but the individual dips are hard to estimate without being in charge of a media outlet (sadface'd lol)
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March 22, 2014, 04:04:48 PM

During the 2013 trough, the absolute bottom was about 2 weeks after the news hacking.
I suspect that buyers over the next week and a half will be among the best of 2014.
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March 22, 2014, 04:08:20 PM

The price is going down, the question is when will it stop

I will start buying soon and all the way down, "They" are probably preparing for a huge bull market in the summer Smiley
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March 22, 2014, 04:22:48 PM

Surprised there haven't been any big bull trap bounces yet.
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March 22, 2014, 04:28:02 PM

I dont get why people sell right now, maybe they are getting greedy thinking about dat juicy 400 or something

Its very risky to sell now, if you want to sell to buy low , you already missed the train.

Its about long haul from now. If it goes lower, i will put some more fiat in and hold for 1+ year

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March 22, 2014, 04:32:11 PM

I dont get why people sell right now, maybe they are getting greedy thinking about dat juicy 400 or something

Its very risky to sell now, if you want to sell to buy low , you already missed the train.

Its about long haul from now. If it goes lower, i will put some more fiat in and hold for 1+ year



The coins that I have already are long term ones, so I won't sell them. The ones that I would buy if we get to mid $400 and lower would also go into my long term stash, so I wouldn't be selling those either.

Unless the fundamentals change in some very negative way, I really don't see a good reason to sell .. well, other than taking profits if you day trade. But for investors, there's no good reason.. only bad emotional reasons caused by FUD.
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March 22, 2014, 04:34:52 PM

i feel like price won't go up because everybody seem to know price will go up sooner or later

is this a legit concern?
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March 22, 2014, 04:35:44 PM

objectively we are in a b*** market.

Horse shit. Objectively we are 40% up from the low less than a month ago, >100% up from where were were 4 and a half months agoince then we've added millions of wallets, features, upgrades, merchants, and ATMs.  

ya but we are like 60% down from the ATH and appear to be continuing to drop.

it doesn't scare me, but its depressing...
i just don't get why people are selling!
even with the current infrastructure i believe bitcoin should be 10K
We can spend them very easily on anything, big shit too, you can pay your rent in bitcoins, you can buy F'ing mammoth tusks FFS, mtgox and other bad exchanges have been weeded out, and now we hear talk of "wall street grade" exchanges coming online. Shit is growing & getting better at a phenomenal rate, it doesn't make any sense to me... we should be at 10K already. this is why i'm a buyer, if you told me last year i'd be buying 600$ bitcoin i'd lol hard and say that i would be a seller at 600$ but here i am buying at 600$, because wow.

Adam, you of all people know we have to hit total despair before it will turn around...after the crash in April it didn't turn around until I basically said to myself "screw it, it's probably going to be worth nothing but I'm going to ride it into the fucking ground regardless", it was the epitome of despair, totally giving in the the fact that almost all of my investment was lost....and I was willing to throw it all away because I still believed in it...rather than sell at such a low value.

Until we hit the point where no one gives a shit if it goes lower, it won't go back up.
I think we are starting to see this in terms of no volume on the markets.

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March 22, 2014, 05:02:15 PM


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March 22, 2014, 05:19:04 PM

objectively we are in a b*** market.

Horse shit. Objectively we are 40% up from the low less than a month ago, >100% up from where were were 4 and a half months agoince then we've added millions of wallets, features, upgrades, merchants, and ATMs.  

ya but we are like 60% down from the ATH and appear to be continuing to drop.

it doesn't scare me, but its depressing...
i just don't get why people are selling!
even with the current infrastructure i believe bitcoin should be 10K
We can spend them very easily on anything, big shit too, you can pay your rent in bitcoins, you can buy F'ing mammoth tusks FFS, mtgox and other bad exchanges have been weeded out, and now we hear talk of "wall street grade" exchanges coming online. Shit is growing & getting better at a phenomenal rate, it doesn't make any sense to me... we should be at 10K already. this is why i'm a buyer, if you told me last year i'd be buying 600$ bitcoin i'd lol hard and say that i would be a seller at 600$ but here i am buying at 600$, because wow.

Adam, you of all people know we have to hit total despair before it will turn around...after the crash in April it didn't turn around until I basically said to myself "screw it, it's probably going to be worth nothing but I'm going to ride it into the fucking ground regardless", it was the epitome of despair, totally giving in the the fact that almost all of my investment was lost....and I was willing to throw it all away because I still believed in it...rather than sell at such a low value.

Until we hit the point where no one gives a shit if it goes lower, it won't go back up.
I think we are starting to see this in terms of no volume on the markets.



You nailed right on the head. Whoever wants to "cash-out", they already did.
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March 22, 2014, 05:27:44 PM

He nailed one thing for sure:  the no volume part, which is concerning for bull at least. If the coins are really dat cheap, why no volume?
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March 22, 2014, 05:34:45 PM

He nailed one thing for sure:  the no volume part, which is concerning for bull at least. If the coins are really dat cheap, why no volume?

Oh its you again, welcome back

Had you not "cashed out" around $100 mark you would have made alot more.

I recall you sold lot b4 that as well.

I feel your pain, so go on with your bearish campaign.

Typical sour grapes

" I didnt plant the grapes and i cant afford them, they must have been sour"
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March 22, 2014, 05:34:58 PM

He nailed one thing for sure:  the no volume part, which is concerning for bull at least. If the coins are really dat cheap, why no volume?

everyone watches the car crash until its over, then they go in to loot the survivors.

I just bought some at $560 - I think we are at the bottom, the charts flattening out and weekends are notorious for random moves on no volume.

take a step back - things are well aligned to start putting out positive spin again and knock this up by 20% in just a few day's work. For traders, that is a golden opportunity, considering its dragged  down 25% or so in the last week of bad news. Most of the money in the markets is traders, rather than new buyers or sellers of old coin.

https://blockchain.info/charts/bitcoin-days-destroyed?showDataPoints=false&timespan=&show_header=true&daysAverageString=7&scale=0&address=

we have had very few bitcoin days destroyed in the last 2 weeks - this means that old wallets are still staying put and that the trading volume is mostly buying and selling the same coins around
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March 22, 2014, 05:40:34 PM

He nailed one thing for sure:  the no volume part, which is concerning for bull at least. If the coins are really dat cheap, why no volume?

Oh its you again, welcome back

Had you not "cashed out" around $100 mark you would have made alot more.

I recall you sold lot b4 that as well.

I feel your pain, so go on with your bearish campaign.

Typical sour grapes

" I didnt plant the grapes and i cant afford them, they must have been sour"



Yes, but I bought them at 32. I also sold at 1000, 800, 630.

No pain really, cause I dont marry my positions.
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March 22, 2014, 05:46:53 PM

He nailed one thing for sure:  the no volume part, which is concerning for bull at least. If the coins are really dat cheap, why no volume?

Oh its you again, welcome back

Had you not "cashed out" around $100 mark you would have made alot more.

I recall you sold lot b4 that as well.

I feel your pain, so go on with your bearish campaign.

Typical sour grapes

" I didnt plant the grapes and i cant afford them, they must have been sour"



Yes, but I bought them at 32. I also sold at 1000, 800, 630.

No pain really, cause I dont marry my positions.

So you meant you bought back at higher price than you sold initially ? then sold again for abit of profits?

Its ok, rise and repeat.
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March 22, 2014, 05:49:34 PM

He nailed one thing for sure:  the no volume part, which is concerning for bull at least. If the coins are really dat cheap, why no volume?

Oh its you again, welcome back

Had you not "cashed out" around $100 mark you would have made alot more.

I recall you sold lot b4 that as well.

I feel your pain, so go on with your bearish campaign.

Typical sour grapes

" I didnt plant the grapes and i cant afford them, they must have been sour"



Yes, but I bought them at 32. I also sold at 1000, 800, 630.

No pain really, cause I dont marry my positions.

So you meant you bought back at higher price than you sold initially ? then sold again for abit of profits?

Its ok, rise and repeat.


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