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Question: How far will this leg take us?
$110K - 9 (8.3%)
$120K - 19 (17.6%)
$130K - 17 (15.7%)
$140K - 9 (8.3%)
$150K - 19 (17.6%)
$160K - 2 (1.9%)
$170K+ - 33 (30.6%)
Total Voters: 108

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Quick review from some polls I stumbled across from @bitcoin. Not a fan of the twitter handle, but thought these were interesting to reflect market sentiment over past few days...



To summarise, ~60% think Bitcoin will close June below $20K. Only ~40% think BTC will close above $20K this month. 25% think price will close below $15K!



As of $20K prices, over 60% think Bitcoin hasn't yet reached max industry pain.



Again, the majority think Bitcoin will reach $15K before $25K in next three months...



The reason I reference this, is because most Bitcoiners and traders get it wrong. Most thought $30K wouldn't break, but as soon as it did, those people were all expecting ~$15K prcies.

Assuming most voting in this poll get it wrong (again); Bitcoin closes June above $20K, the industry has hit max pain already and we'll see $25K before $15K  Smiley

At present, based on current price action, I think this is fairly realistic. My personal benchmarks for this type of reversal would be the following:

1. Closing today above $20K (roughly 10% below the 200WMA which wouldn't be a disaster). Ideally above $21K consolidation, but can't be too hopeful.
2. Closing next week above the 200WMA (which will be $22.4K next week). Reclaiming $20K would likely achieve this I think, especially $21K.
3. Then trading towards $25K the beginning of next week, before a correction, in order to close June comfortably above $20K.

Going to try and present some short and longer-term TA to explain this as there are some serious volume gaps both to the upside and to the downside at present.
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Quick review from some polls I stumbled across from @bitcoin. Not a fan of the twitter handle, but thought these were interesting to reflect market sentiment over past few days...



To summarise, ~60% think Bitcoin will close June below $20K. Only ~40% think BTC will close above $20K this month. 25% think price will close below $15K!



As of $20K prices, over 60% think Bitcoin hasn't yet reached max industry pain.



Again, the majority think Bitcoin will reach $15K before $25K in next three months...



The reason I reference this, is because most Bitcoiners and traders get it wrong. Most thought $30K wouldn't break, but as soon as it did, those people were all expecting ~$15K prcies.

Assuming most voting in this poll get it wrong (again); Bitcoin closes June above $20K, the industry has hit max pain already and we'll see $25K before $15K  Smiley

At present, based on current price action, I think this is fairly realistic. My personal benchmarks for this type of reversal would be the following:

1. Closing today above $20K (roughly 10% below the 200WMA which wouldn't be a disaster). Ideally above $21K consolidation, but can't be too hopeful.
2. Closing next week above the 200WMA (which will be $22.4K next week). Reclaiming $20K would likely achieve this I think, especially $21K.
3. Then trading towards $25K the beginning of next week, before a correction, in order to close June comfortably above $20K.

Going to try and present some short and longer-term TA to explain this as there are some serious volume gaps both to the upside and to the downside at present.

I don't know how realistic that is but it would be nice. Waiting for the TA.
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I don’t think costs of wrecking all relevant markets are worth propping
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Pshaw, you're clearly just not laundering billions through it.
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Some TA on Bitcoin's current price, at least my perception of it, while trying to remain relatively neutral and realistic. Instead of looking first at the Weekly chart that most are focusing on, here is the 3 Day chart.

Price is currently at the 0.236 retracement level "line in the sand" since the 2020 lows to the 2021 highs. This is where we saw consolidation in late 2020, so not unsurprising to see a bounce from this previous resistance zone. The positive here is the same as the negative imo. There is a big volume gap between $20K and $30K. Likewise, there is a big gap between $17.5K and $12K. Even zooming out further, there isn't much more volume until $12K. Note: I should of used Coinbase chart to reference volume, as there is a lot more of it between $30K and $40K than on Bitstamp.

Based on volume alone, it won't be difficult for price to re-test $30K if $20K is reclaimed. Likewise, it wouldn't be difficult to reach $12K if $17.5K support is lost, despite how oversold price currently is. I personally don't understand much fixation with the $14K or $15K level, to me they appear to be of little trading interest. More relevantly, a so-called "typical" 83% correction would be $12K, not $14K or $15K.



While the Weekly chart does factor in increasing volume from $19K to $12K, this is based on buyers from over 4 years ago. Personally, I think these buyers either already panic sold into the bear market in 2018, otherwise took profits in 2021, or plan to hold for the long-term. At least the hold waves shows that these buyers remain relatively neutral at present, with instead the 1-2 year buyers beginning to capitulate or take very late profits (those who bought between $10K and $65K, but predominantly $10K).



Fortunately shorter-term on the 4hr paints a similar picture to that of the 3 day chart, that of a big volume gap between $21.3K and $28.3K, with local resistance around $21K. Short-term support appears to now be $19K after the bounce from $17.5K, with falling below $18K likely to signal further downside and confirm today's price action as just another dead cat bounce.



With unrealized losses currently reaching 19% yesterday, this does appear to be a time to be optimistic rather than pessimistic based on historic data, even if price can capitulate further.

I honestly think this is either one of the "generational buying opportunities", or the moment where Bitcoin faces a longer bear market than ever seen before as the stock market collapses further, and economies go into deep recession. But so far, I don't see an argument for any of these scenarios, even if they remain possibilities. This is also what capitulation "feels like" and the reason for such high fear in the market.

This does otherwise look similar to the 2018 bear market in one respect. Price bottomed out between $3K and $5K which was a mid-point of consolidation in the 2017 bull market. Currently, $17.5K to $20K could be considered a mid-point, if we consider the rally to have started in 2020 @ $10K, as opposed to from $20K. Similarly, back in 2018 there was a big volume gap all the way down to $1K when price reached $3.2K, but fortunately this was never tested. Instead, price rebounded to $6K (and beyond) as there was a big volume gap back to that level. By that point, most had accepted that a new bull run had started.



My personal benchmarks for this type of reversal would be the following:

1. Closing today above $20K (roughly 10% below the 200WMA which wouldn't be a disaster). Ideally above $21K consolidation, but can't be too hopeful.
2. Closing next week above the 200WMA (which will be $22.4K next week). Reclaiming $20K would likely achieve this I think, especially $21K.
3. Then trading towards $25K the beginning of next week, before a correction, in order to close June comfortably above $20K.

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BREAKING: The last 3 days have been the largest ‘Realized Loss’ days in Bitcoin history
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Link:https://twitter.com/BTC_Archive/status/1538529682626383873
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BREAKING: The last 3 days have been the largest ‘Realized Loss’ days in Bitcoin history
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Link:https://twitter.com/BTC_Archive/status/1538529682626383873
Sports Fans 2x more likely to buy Bitcoin or crypto, finds Seton Hall survey.
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After winter always comes Spring.

but what comes after a crypto Ice Age?
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BREAKING: The last 3 days have been the largest ‘Realized Loss’ days in Bitcoin history
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Link:https://twitter.com/BTC_Archive/status/1538529682626383873

OH MY GOD!  IT'S DEAD!
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BREAKING: The last 3 days have been the largest ‘Realized Loss’ days in Bitcoin history
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Link:https://twitter.com/BTC_Archive/status/1538529682626383873


But did the loss was total?? Or they are just saying that numbers on the screen go down so they assume they lost BTCiTcoin?? Cuz 1 BTCtC is still == with 1 BTCtC. Tongue  Cool  Shocked  Grin  Cheesy  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
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As I catch up with the WO thread, I just have to shake my head in disgust at all the pusillanimity.

You dudes need to punch yourselves in the nuts WAY more often.
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As I catch up with the WO thread, I just have to shake my head in disgust at all the pusillanimity.

You dudes need to punch yourselves in the nuts WAY more often.

I recommend putting a few coins on a lightning node and then throwing the SSD into a volcano.  That's what I did, and it puts things in perspective.

But I also have noticed there are a lot of "this time it's different" (in a bad way) and it might take 10 years to recover from this type stuff out there.  More than I remember in the past crashes.

That said.. I would love for my little FIB bottom prediction to have been right.  Looks pretty good so far.  The variables are just so interesting.  What is going to happen in the world markets... energy, food, real estate?  Are interest rates going to keep going up (yes)? Will Bitcoin ever begin to really step into it's safe haven role and decouple from the tech markets?  It really is hard to see what might be around the corner, obviously.  Volume impressive for a weekend.  RSI near all time low on several timeframes...
Who knows?



For me technical analysis vs fundamentals are an interesting way to view markets.  A fib extension and low RSI is compelling, but what if stonks start dumping extra hard on Monday?  Then what?  What about all the necessary liquidations of things like FTX Celsious et al.

This is happening faster than I thought it would.  I figured we would go up further before we starting seeing Bitcoin PUNISH the people who play games on paper.  It's Satoshis bit about being able to be "moved on a communications channel" playing out.  They are trying to play Fiat games with a rock hard asset.  And we all get to experience pain because of their stupid games.



This asshole is a pox on Bitcoin.  He does not understand why it is important, and has built the same sort of garbage that Armstrong and others have pushed on us. 

I hope they are crushed in this event.


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Nice to see this run on 20k.  Not enough volume yet to really get excited about it, and I expect we will see the price rejected here.  But if we dont? Wink
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I recommend putting a few coins on a lightning node and then throwing the SSD into a volcano.  That's what I did, and it puts things in perspective.

Yeah bro. Was very sad to learn about that.

So, total loss for that one node confirmed, or did it end up recovering after all?
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I recommend putting a few coins on a lightning node and then throwing the SSD into a volcano.  That's what I did, and it puts things in perspective.

Yeah bro. Was very sad to learn about that.

So, total loss for that one node confirmed, or did it end up recovering after all?

Actually.. I am well on the way to recovering it all  (hope I did not just jinx it).  The CL node (jeed) was able to be restored from a backup created by the backup plugin right before the SSD went south.   Even our channel is back up and connected.

The LND node (deej) is still in limbo.  So I am using the seed+SCB restoration method.  What that does is scans through the whole blockchain from the birthday of the node (11/19) and that is taking forever.  But all the transactions are trickling in.  Once that is done the Static Channel Backup file is loaded and all the channels are just closed.

So the sad part is my older BOS ranked node is badly wounded.  BUT I am hopefull I will gather up all the funds on chain sometime today.

The question is... do I want to set channels back up on that thing?  Or throw the rPi into the volcano after moving all the corn back to cold storage.

For some reason (insanity?) a am considering  setting up a set of fewer but larger channels on the node and keeping it going...  

My version of titanium plates, I suppose.
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As I catch up with the WO thread, I just have to shake my head in disgust at all the pusillanimity.

You dudes need to punch yourselves in the nuts WAY more often.

It seems like every bear market, the fear and whining and doom-and-gloom is exactly the same.

Guess I shouldn't tell them about that time I bought some bitcoin at $1000, and it fell all the way to $230.

Oh, woe is me.  Cry

Bear trolls swarmed the WO at the bottom of the market (just like now) saying "cheap coins!" and it's "going to crash to $50" and "this time it's different tho".

Does no one study the past anymore??

Patterns of observation are your friend.  Wink
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As I catch up with the WO thread, I just have to shake my head in disgust at all the pusillanimity.

You dudes need to punch yourselves in the nuts WAY more often.


Lol its still over $500  what's all that fuss about?
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