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SBF granted bail just before Christmas. These two tweets sum up the case.





Don't try to gaslight us you fuck tard.

FTX gave equal amounts to Dems and Reps and it was the REPUBLICAN Majority Leader that Led a equal parts Dem and Reps push to get the SEC off FTX's back.

BOTH PARTIES ARE GARBAGE.

Fuck off with your divisive partisan lies.


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Whatever a persons belief in celebrating christmas it is generally for a good reason while I am not religious I do not care if people want to celebrate it for religious purposes or just because its a nice time of the year. We do not have to make everything political.

I did not make anything political. In fact I said that “it’s nice to celebrate love and giving”.
I’m sure anyone can figure out the marketing involved now days.



There are many people who do not celebrate christmas btw not just old calendarists as you say

Of course, but I was referring to the Christian community - hence the Old Calendarists.



How many accounts does nullius have?

I’m guessing hardly as many as you do, dear disgraceful you.



About 5 that I count off the top of my head.

There is no talk of rope - in the hanged mans house.



Did you mean unbanned ones?

Defamation attempt spotted again.
nullius did not, does not, will not, ever break any rules, so no, he can’t have banned accounts - to the best of my knowledge.



But hey, it’s Xmas, so do watch a movie:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11564570/
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<snip>..sorry it was becoming too long to quote


How the fuck do you write so much ?

Not complaining as I post like a mofo but not with the precise writing that you try to do.

I tend  to write like James Joyce just let it rip.

Stream of consciousness style.

I have a USA based theory of why the gov does these games with interest.

I base it on the Long Island railroad retirement system.

see below:

My step dad is 90 years old.
He worked for the Long Island Railroad from the age of 22  to 52

he has been in retirement for 38 years. 8 years longer than he worked.

his son my stepbrother is 60
he got a job in 1984 or 1985 with the long Island railroad he was 22 or 23.

He retired at 55 he is on pension for 7 years.

his son is 25 he is working at the Long Island railroad for 3 years.

The model above does not work cannot work if every family in the USA was setup the way they are it all falls apart.

So the feds play pendulum with war ,interest rates ,unemployment . In an effort to keep it all from imploding.

Now I would argue it has not fully imploded since 1929-1939 which they fixed with WWII.

I am hoping they avoid the next full implosion better than they did back then.

We will have a much better idea by 2024 Nov just how fucked the USA will be.

You are definitely on to something here.
Soc sec is 20 tril "in the hole", yet more than 50% seniors depend on it and they paid into it...calling it a "benefit' is a bit disingenuous.
I have no idea how they will "fix" this.
At least soc sec has COLA, many regular pensions don't have it, so payment streams slowly dwindle (in value).
Peeps would have to think hard how to finance their potential longevity and bitcoin should be a big part of that.

For those who are interested, here is something about some US states attitude toward educators:
1. You cannot bargain for salary/benefits increase through work stoppage (by law).
2. You cannot pay into social security. Instead, you are obligated to pay to a pension fund, which does not provide COLA (cost of living adjustment).
3. Once you get that pension, you are being deducted half of the pension yearly amount from your soc sec (called WEP). Some complicated rules might make it less expensive, but you need to clock more than 30 years outside to be free of the WEP.
For some, it probably wipes out their social security entirely.
4. My state is 49th in both salary and benefits for educators, but see point#1. It's not that i complain about the situation, it's the fact that, unless you leave education altogether, you cannot change your situation and once you logged 5 years in education, you cannot prevent that value subtraction.

You can ask: why bother to work in education?
My personal answer is:
For most part, I didn't, but my work career is coming to a close (I hope to decide this on my own, though), so it does not matter much, I am just commenting on the situation.
In addition: my IRAs and bitcoin would, hopefully, provide the bulk of the future cash flows.
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December 24, 2022, 09:43:02 PM

SBF looks happier then most people on house arrest yet he has got to know that he is probably going down? Both of his closest colleagues have already admitted their guilt in fraud. Why does this many looks so happy when his fate has already been determined? I know people are complaining about the bail but you only pay 10-20% of the bail and all it means is they can return home on house arrest it does not mean they get away with anything. As long as they attend the court hearing then the bail gets refunded too.

Because "going down" is not half as scary as people might think.

Look at Mark Karpeless before and after serving time (only ~1 year):

Before:

After:


SBF's case is much higher calibre than MK's, but he's got waaaay better connections than MK ever had. He'll serve 2-3 years tops in a comfy environment and will enjoy his hidden stash after that. Mark my words.
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Well the problem is the printer was here all of 2022.

They were printing money for all Long Term Care insurance companies.
They were printing money for all social security benefits.
They were printing money for all I savings bond holders.
They were printing money for all TSP holding the G-Fund.


Do the math for the above and the money already dished out to the people above is remarkably close to 1.7 trillion dollars.

But the mass media did not talk much about the above.

Oh in 2023 all of the above are still on schedule for more more more.


1) Now as an I bond holder - nice
2) as an 401Tsp g fund holder - nice
3) as a social security beneficiary starting in 2023- nice
4) as the caretaker of the owner of a Long term care policy - nice
5) as the husband to a person that has a federal pension getting 8% raise - nice

as a BTC miner - not nice
as a BTC holder - not nice
as a guy trying to be like JJG Just DCA - neutral to nice.


All of the above illustrates why hedging is okay to do.


Only USA people can do the I-Bonds
So do some 1 a month for 100
and DCA at least 100 a month for your BTC

or just complain that the telegraphed moves by the fed suck even when they are easy to hedge.

Am I fortunate that I get a benefit from all 5 listed not really.

1)It means I live in the USA - lucky I guess not sure

2)It means my wife's 401 tsp never got big stock gains last 10 years.
3)It means I am older (66 in 30 days)
4)It means my bro-in-law is really sick (dementia)
5)It means my wife is getting older 67 in 3 months

As for 2-5 I rather be 35 years old and working hard as long as I was with my wife.


Oh to all of W.O

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Christmas!

I am not an economist but as far as I understand "serving" 1.7 trillion budget under 0% vs. 4 - 5% are two very different things so it makes sense to me for the Feds pivot sooner than later. Having the budget as high as 1.7 trillion and keeping raising interest is like shooting yourself in the leg...
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Damn you Hueristic. I was actually enjoying having zero merits.
I guess you had to spoil it. Embarrassed

Merits.
I kindly ask that you never-ever merit me. I surely won’t merit you back.
Not because what might be written is not merit worthy, but because the merit system is corrupt, useless, and most importantly - because it deflects and distracts attention from the important stuff, empowering scammers. For what it’s worth - next to zero - if ever I get enough accidental merits accumulated, I will merit certain nullius posts to the max, only.

Excellent example here, is El_Duderinio.
El_Duderinio will heavily merit you, as long as you suck his dick. The moment you say or do something that doesn’t fit in his fantasy world, you’re doomed. He will merit all the cockroaches without giving it a second thought. Of course he is free to do as he pleases, but this is not the point.

So I will ask El_Duderinio himself:
- Do you really think, that my posts or my cousins posts offer zero value to this community?
- Do you think that asking “what’s special about your fucking cross-fit shoes” deserves merit instead?
- Are you a fucking idiot?

Don’t answer if it’s too stressful, I know the answers already.
Sorry Dude, but someone has to bat slap you. Do not - I repeat - do not ever merit me, or I will rip you a new one.

So much for axiocratic standards.
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US temperatures to drop to -30C and even -45C in some places over Christmas. Stay safe everyone.

In other news: Swedish brat loses her cool when her long range weather predictions turn to shit.





the climate catastrophe sect has an excuse for everything...  Like "weather extremes increase"...  and some climate researcher whose income and reputation depend on the climate hysteria will quickly come up with a study which "proofs" it...


Yeah!
Who needs science anyway, when nobody is able to understand it?
If there were no scientists, there would be no climate change, aminotrite?

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Merry Christmas, first of all.

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seems you want to paint me as an idiot (which I probably am anyways), when I have not even stated anything disputable imo...
but you are welcome  ...


Nope. But (rapid) climate change is a scientific fact. Being sceptical to climate-change, like i was too in the past, is more or less idiotic, facing nowadays fact base.
So there's that. It's easy to look stupid when one is chanting in with a sceptic's narratives.
Don't take my words too personal. I'm not a very social guy, so my words are often taken as offensive, when they aren't in reality. That's also the reason why i almost never feel offended by anyone. It's complicated, i can't even explain it just like so.
You'd better off to take my words like just a different opinion.


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For sake of communication what I wanted to say is:  

Like always in history, we have end-of-the-world sects.
Nowadays, at least one of them in the field of climate change.

Right. I compare this to the bell curve of religions. There is Islam, with 1% radicals, and Christians on the other side, with 1% radicals (rough numbers).
The end-of-world-parts are even less, but both are following the same dynamics, originating from fear (of death).

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They hold extreme views within the scientific climate debate that is supported by a variety of better or (more often) worse computer models..

I wouldn't trust either models too much. We know that a model is only as good as the complexity it can follow, based on reality. This correlations are typically very basic and simple. Even if the climate change was 100% human-driven, we couldn't reverse or slow it down suffciently.
Now there's the good part: Our species is used to adapt quickly, and this is what made us the dominant lifeform on this planet (when you leave bacteria and viruses out of the equation). Let me redact that to mammals, ok?

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The climate sects give themselves names like "Last Generation" and believe they are the chosen ones to save the world. They have their priest-like figures like that mentally instabile Greta girl
Greta is innocent, and this is why she is being easy to be (ab)used.
Again, it's the mighty ego that drives (some of) us to identify with narratives like "last generation".

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These apocalyptic sects' views are not(!) for debate, so logically they have to fight every counter argument and make excuses for anything that counters their view by default.

There are many researchers whose income depends on climate hysteria and they are incentivized to write paper after paper to drive a hysterical view forward.  

The debate is extremely politicized and the scientific field is flooded with billions of Dollars. It's obvious that a lot of junk science and junk papers are in circulation.

That's a very simple view of what's happening, but i can't rule out that it is partly true, at least.
There's a common underlying entity, named the human ego, which is driving people to do many strange things which they don't question, and it's used to justify anything in the name of rigtheousness. Whatever that is, you know?

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I have never stated that the climate doesn't change. But it is definitely used by politics in a big way.

We can sure both agree on that.
But then, when you watch what they do, it's very different to what they say.
I suggest that's how things work nowadays. Mostly since 9/11 - imo the latest real Black Swan event in history - politics and society have changed a lot since then, on a global scale. I don't know how to say it in a simple way, but fear is the key to everything behavioural in humans. If we could handle fear in a consious way, we'd be far better off with everything. It may need a lot of time to get there, though.


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I have no idea how they will "fix" this.


Same way they "FIX" the banking system.
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I have to admit, one of the nicest presents today  Grin  Cool
This one counts as gay christmas card as well, doesn't it?
Merry Christmas!

I have no idea how they will "fix" this.

They won't.
It will be fixed inherently on itself by breaking down, followed by another iteration.
Seems humanity is doomed to repeat history.

R.I.P Maxi Jazz, the famous voice of the legendary dance act Faithless from the '90 has died at age of 65. Cry

Sad.
Still got "Insomnia" on my car's mp3 player. Epic tune.
I am resisting to link some article about the impact of sleep deprivation on life expectancy.
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SBF granted bail just before Christmas. These two tweets sum up the case.

The security surrounding that house must be insane.

Can you imagine all the black ops teams that have likely been hired to take the guy out?

One hell of a video game mission, I'll tell you that much.
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SBF granted bail just before Christmas. These two tweets sum up the case.

The security surrounding that house must be insane.

Can you imagine all the black ops teams that have likely been hired to take the guy out?

One hell of a video game mission, I'll tell you that much.

Looks like a job for the WO "where-am-i" crew Cheesy
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EDIT: Hey, Bob, you came online to post a christmas greeting card, didn't you?  Wink

Don't leave us hanging  Grin
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EDIT: Hey, Bob, you came online to post a christmas greeting card, didn't you?  Wink

TBH, I'm too blown out this year for antics or anything. Has been a very tough season on us, and not feeling particularly jovial or otherwise upbeat. Need to catch up on a lot of rest, and some medication changes have left me on unstable ground as I work through side-effects titrating down.

Don't have the time to make an effort for a funny gay Christmas card this year; a lot of developments with trans and gay folk evidently grooming young children has left me very existentially troubled. Just wanna keep all that political crap in the background and not give it too much thought.

Enjoy this shot of a cow on a section of our ranch, tho, from earlier today.

Merry Christmas, folks.



EDIT: Context: We are currently in a lawsuit with the builder, who went behind our backs, held back critical survey information from us, and proceeded to build that concrete road, two feet above grade, when it was not needed. This 2 foot increase in grading has essentially created a small pond area on a part of our landscape in severe rains, which causes flooding upstream, and severe erosion of our banks when the water runs off into the creek, ultimately - We are liable for any damage due to that grade increase - they created a federal issue for us. So, just a bad situation with Phase I, recognizing we were effectively robbed and lied to. Had to work with our ranch partner on getting together all the best local builders in the area - who have local knowledge - to take over the rest of project and fix their fuckups.

The lawsuit is likely to require me to keep a war chest of half a mil liquid, so I'm incredibly aggravated about that.

Oh yeah, and the increase in medication dose I was on, was causing anger problems - ultimately.

Just a really bad time this year.

Exhausted. Rick and I had a tough go of things, and we finally were able to resolve things and reconcile, after recognizing it was my fucking medication causing at least half the problems. Very upset about that detour, but glad to be back on track to becoming my old, stable self.

Take your health seriously folks. We only have one go at it in this form. Always be checking yourself.

Oh, will also be 27 weeks sober come Monday.
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