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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 1 (2.3%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (2.3%)
$80K to $85K - 1 (2.3%)
$85K to $90K - 7 (16.3%)
$90K to $95K - 12 (27.9%)
$95K to $100K - 5 (11.6%)
>$100K - 16 (37.2%)
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July 01, 2023, 04:43:53 PM

Bitcoin on track to close June out in the green for the first time in 4 years.
https://twitter.com/DaanCrypto/status/1674738550615449603?t=kPHNw_uh7tsUuLdHdIanYA&s=19
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July 01, 2023, 05:05:21 PM

Yes since 2023, it's now taxed in Portugal if you hold for less than 1 year (until 2022 was tax free, even less than 1 year).

Exactly, it's similar as Germany. However Portugal has one more huge advantage : NHR (non habitual resident) tax-scheme.  You get this statut for 10years you are tax free on your foreign income (dividends, interests, royalties). Kind of temporary "territorial tax scheme".

Until 2022 private foreign pensions (for retired people) was tax free too under this scheme. Now it's taxed 10% due to other EU countries pressure (for the new applicants).
Just think about how many BTC that you might have had if you had been stacking in the last year gallianooo - rather than wishing for the BTC price to drop below $10k?

What could have had been?  What could have had been?

And also, I saved you from losing even more BTC by refusing to enter into your dumbass supposed bet for the quantity of BTC that you had suggested that you wanted.. even if we might presume that you were actually serious / genuine about entering into a bet rather than just trolling and talking nonsense.

but hey maybe you do happen to know about taxes in Portugal in regards to an asset that you don't really have much of any.. (relatively speaking).

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Sucks to be uie-pooie, no?
ONLY thing you have jayjay is BIG mouth and monologue BLABLA. As usual.

A) I bought my "long term bag" of BTC early 2015. Around 220/230$. Never sold any before 50K$.  My "long term bag" of ETH was bought just below 1$ end of 2015. So don't worry for me idiot. I am not sure we are talking about the same amount.

B) You wanted to bet with me, you can scroll for the beginning, and when i was serious on it (to bet at least 1BTC not your daily peanuts), you just run away like a virgin 12yo girl. That's the fact. And you would lose this bet.

C) For your information I bought again BTC between 19/20K$, but yes, I didnt buy the dip at 15.5/16K$ because I put more chance than you we can
go below (12-14K at this time). But at the end, for the global, it doesn't make a huge difference on my portfolio.

So move on.

Bisous bisous

For starts, I doubt too many of us give too many shits about your dabblings in that shitcoin ethereum, and to the extent to which we can take you seriously at all must be taken with a grain of salt - especially if you are having troubles with your representations in regards to bet proposals that had not been worked out, and had been motivated by your talking a BIG game in the first place and my attempt to get you to put some money behind bet terms - of which we were not able to work out... which seems to have had worked to your advantage since you probably would have lost - since the bet would have had been for BTC prices much lower than the $15,479 price that we had reached (at least so far)..and the bet terms would have closed by March of this year anyhow.. so that might have been one of the items that we did not contest.. but still with any bet all of the terms have to be agreed otherwise, it is a no go... which is what happened in our bet discussions that had followed your BIG DOWNity spoutenings... that seemed to have had not happened as grandedly as you had been wishing.

I doubt anyone here would want you to not have any bitcoin, even if you seem to talk some nonsense.. which may well be talking your book.. which surely is not completely outrageous, in and of itself... we all do a bit of that, I suppose... if we might be biased towards up or down.. and maybe there can be some variance in terms of long/term short term positions that any of us might take, too.

The matter what so anyone who is planning to invest or buy BTC at the rate of $10k is wasting how or her  and before that will come again, it will be 5 to 6 years time. So the person has to be patiently waiting for that year to come.
Anything that makes Bitcoin fall to $10K
Would be the downfall of Bitcoin
The cost of mining Bitcoin is higher than $15K
It would continue to rise in subsequent years
Anything that makes Bitcoin to fall to $15K means
Miners has chosen to cut losses and sell
Which would not be Good news for Bitcoin

Bitcoin has a difficulty adjustment, so I am sure it could tolerate falls down below miner costs.. even though surely it would be problematic to be going to such historically low numbers for other reasons .. such as questioning confidence in it.. or perhaps some inabilities to sort out pricing mechanisms in order to purge any of the outrageous levels of manipulation to bring them back to the reality of bitcoin as a strong asset/currency (based on its scarcity and various built in incentives around mining).
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July 01, 2023, 05:15:53 PM
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#Bitcoin cheat sheet 2023.

https://twitter.com/ltngventures/status/1675127188075470848?t=8-DSeU1VGbM9A6mlysbFdA&s=19
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July 01, 2023, 05:50:27 PM

Well don't buy on the dip then.  Just DCA.  Have you heard about DCA?

Actually the better strategy is to combine DCA, buying on dips and lump sum investing.
I am not that novice, have knowledge of DCA.

Let me grab enough capital to follow all these strategies together.

It's not about capital size, it is about how you manage it and you place into different categories, and surely if you are in your beginning stages of building an investment portfolio, it can take many years for the amounts to start to get bigger and Bigger and BIGGER.. but similar principles apply even if you are dealing with small amounts.

A thing that I frequently recommend to beginner investors is to NOT diversify and to focus on building your investment portfolio with one or two assets, and as the size of your investment portfolio (and perhaps even your cashflow or the amount that you are able to invest) gets bigger, then you are more able to spread out, but the mere fact that you can spread out does not necessarily mean that you should spread out.

In that same light, there could be some truth to any claim that "I don't have enough income in order to split it into categories," then if you are correct about such a claim, then you may well need to figure out how to prioritize categories, but you still should keep in mind that the three categories exist in order that you can also figure out how you might want to move between categories in case circumstances change (or start to dictate that such change might be preferable).

Have you been dabbling in shitcoins too?
I am lucky not to lose moeny with shit coins.

That's what all degenerate gamblers say.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Edit: By the way, I see Ivomm gave you a merit on your post, and he is likely in a similar situation where he fucked up his BTC accumulation strategy, and even though he knows a lot of about bitcoin, he ended up gambling too much and fucking around with trying to rush his bitcoin accumulation process, and therefore  he ended up getting reckt by selling too early and then failing to buy.. so know he is also like you, wishing for downity prices.
I am in a good condition w.r.t my Bitcoins and I am just sharing what people do with Bitcoin when price goes high and low.

Oh?  Those are usually not very good ways to present your ideas... but whatever do what you wish.

So you can also hit my merit button, no worries Smiley))

I have sent you merit from time to time, but usually not when you are talking nonsense.

Up your game and it is likely that merits will follow.. no guarantees of course, and I am not even claiming to be any kind of a sugar daddy because there are plenty of others who will send merits to quality posts, and frequently it is better not to ask,... even though surely there are guys who do like to ask (even when engaging in such "asking" behaviors in somewhat subtle (indirect) ways.

buying dip is easy if you are prepped.
Experts on Wall Observer are pepped but majority start following the FUD when price goes down.

That's your own fault if you are vulnerable to FUD.

Up your game, WatChe.... figure out a system in which you are NOT so emotional about BTC price moves... yeah, emotions cannot be completely removed from the situation, but there are strategies to cause them to become more manageable... no one is claiming it to be easy to be a bitcoin HODLer, but your abilities to be able to manage your emotions better does seem to improve with the passage of time as long as you are trying to manage your investment, and therefore, it is more and more likely that your portfolio will go into profits with the passage of time (and going into profits is not guaranteed either - especially if you are continuing to fuck around with shitcoins, #justsaying).

From January to June 2023, the highest price of Bitcoin is mentioned in every month.
Bitcoin price January to June
January= 15,538 dollar..
February= 18,253 dollar...
March  =  22,587 dollar...
April  =  30,725  dollar...
May  =  28,644  dollar....
June  = 31,412  dollar...
July  = ??
I can see the price of Bitcoin has only gone up since January 2023 this year.
January=Hold of course Bitcoin price has increased by about 19% in this six month little long term investment.
Bitcoin price is likely to rise further.

None of us should have to look at your numbers and to see that they are wrong.  Did you just make up those numbers?

Just looking at January, February and March.. they are all wrong.. Why are you providing wrong information? you fuck.

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I like the not infrequent, JayJuanGee "Sucks to be uie-pooie, no?"  <lots of emojis>  posts.

Quick question (because it's been buggin' me for years).... how exactly does one pronounce "JayJuanGee"?
(Having said that, how does one pronounce 95% of the strange usernames in this here famous thread?)

I'm thinking  "JaWONjee"....but what do I know? (besides the latest fart joke)

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Pathetic.
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This is the WOb, after all.
OK Sir, nobody else seems to want to engage on this topic, so I'll jump in and 'splain the way I see it. Obviously the wordy one in question is the bot of prolific character creation with a quirky little modified dialect and an almost obsessed focus on safe investment strategy primarily (but not exclusively) based around BTC. Therefore, his moniker is clearly a modified dialect expression of his Model Number using too many characters. Model J-1 version G. (most likely indicating the 7th iteration of Model J-1) So proper pronunciation is somewhat phonetically spelled out as JayJuanGee  or  J-1-G. Of course what we don't know is whether firmware updates (without significant alterations requiring a new Version delineation, such as security updates rather than, say, language or character map changes) would append the model number with date code or ascending numeric additions at the end. (Such as J1.G.01072023 or J1.G.008) But really... even a bot needs a bit of OpSec!

Those are fairly decent points.  I will have to take them to my handler.

Now as to my own Moniker of Copetech, if you care, is derived from my original focus of professional expertise. I sold, serviced, and educated business owners in the proper deployment of machines that produced paper Copies of documents. (Copiers, Faxes, Printers, & Scanners) So it's "Cop-E-Tech, we help you Cope with business Technologies." I sold the customer list, contracts, and inventory in 2017 as I saw the manufacturers marketing strategy that I called the "race to the bottom". By focusing on market share rather than profit, they were forcing the service industry to eliminate all high value expertise and equipment to instead deploy high turn over of cheap plastic boxes maintained by minimum wage part swapping monkeys. Add this to the technology of paperless cloud based document storage and cheap touch screens and it was clear I needed to sell while I still had something of any value. (what was that I was saying about OpSec?)

Protip:  No bot should perform his own psychological review upon himself. 

OK O/T rambling done, Go Bitcoin! $40k in July!

Guaranteed? or no?
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Happy Canada Day, eh?


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SNIP!

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Sucks to be uie-pooie, no?
I like the not infrequent, JayJuanGee "Sucks to be uie-pooie, no?"  <lots of emojis>  posts.

Quick question (because it's been buggin' me for years).... how exactly does one pronounce "JayJuanGee"?
(Having said that, how does one pronounce 95% of the strange usernames in this here famous thread?)

I'm thinking  "JaWONjee"....but what do I know? (besides the latest fart joke)

....
Pathetic.
 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
This is the WOb, after all.
OK Sir, nobody else seems to want to engage on this topic, so I'll jump in and 'splain the way I see it. Obviously the wordy one in question is the bot of prolific character creation with a quirky little modified dialect and an almost obsessed focus on safe investment strategy primarily (but not exclusively) based around BTC. Therefore, his moniker is clearly a modified dialect expression of his Model Number using too many characters. Model J-1 version G. (most likely indicating the 7th iteration of Model J-1) So proper pronunciation is somewhat phonetically spelled out as JayJuanGee  or  J-1-G. Of course what we don't know is whether firmware updates (without significant alterations requiring a new Version delineation, such as security updates rather than, say, language or character map changes) would append the model number with date code or ascending numeric additions at the end. (Such as J1.G.01072023 or J1.G.008) But really... even a bot needs a bit of OpSec!

Those are fairly decent points.  I will have to take them to my handler.

Now as to my own Moniker of Copetech, if you care, is derived from my original focus of professional expertise. I sold, serviced, and educated business owners in the proper deployment of machines that produced paper Copies of documents. (Copiers, Faxes, Printers, & Scanners) So it's "Cop-E-Tech, we help you Cope with business Technologies." I sold the customer list, contracts, and inventory in 2017 as I saw the manufacturers marketing strategy that I called the "race to the bottom". By focusing on market share rather than profit, they were forcing the service industry to eliminate all high value expertise and equipment to instead deploy high turn over of cheap plastic boxes maintained by minimum wage part swapping monkeys. Add this to the technology of paperless cloud based document storage and cheap touch screens and it was clear I needed to sell while I still had something of any value. (what was that I was saying about OpSec?)

Protip:  No bot should perform his own psychological review upon himself. 

OK O/T rambling done, Go Bitcoin! $40k in July!

Guaranteed? or no?

There are NO Guarantees!!!

Let's just call it an asymmetrical bet...
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Gentlemen,

are you ready for some fresh offtopic content?
However, here we go:

IC 5070, aka. Pelican Nebula.
2 hours of data, including a few thin clouds crossing the viewport, which make the brighter stars look softer in the end.
I added an infrared filter to the camera, compared to the old, IR-rich photographs, structures now look sharper and more detailed.



But where is my flat earth in all that?  Roll Eyes

well if the flat earth is seen edge on in space photos how are you gonna see it, gonna be real easy to miss.

also flat earth is where this photo was taken. so double trick question.

duh  Grin

btw truly awesome pic

Thanks. Unfortunately there is so much moisture in the air above Europe this year, i had to accept the thin clouds. The last perfectly clear sky was at full moon. This nebula was roughly opposite to the moon, which was nearly 80% full two nights ago, so i took my chance. There are various problems with my new setup, but one can probably only spot them if he did the integration of all the pictures himself. But these are really peanuts, resulting in an acceptable image.

Today i also celebrate the production start of my photovoltaic system, maybe it's time to think about mining (some shitcoin that can be sold for Bitcoin), but i think it's still cheaper to buy Sats. The vertical panels on the west side of the house still deliver me a tad more than 10% peak power on a rainy afternoon without sunshine. I'm quite impressed, as i was choosing my panels specifically for high efficiency in low/diffuse light situations, but the real life performance was unknown until now.
Next steps are including off-grid production capability and Sodium-ion battery storage (2+ years). I have to wait a full year to be able to scale useful battery capacity based on production values, maybe i will have to add a few pv panels. Mining hardware, if efficient enough would probably be added in between the two milestones.

EDIT: Found out that off-grid PV operation isn't possible without batteries (for variable excess load distribution), so it would be one (bigger) step to energy-independence.
Maybe Bitcoin will help me out, 2025 seems a good year for extending the PV  Cool
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Hey buddy, no more than three in a row, we agreed didn't we

Phil, are you sleeping or what? Tongue
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1. The institutions are coming.

So let's take a trip down memory lane to see what these entities used to say about Bitcoin as retail investors ignored them and kept on accumulating.

"Good things might come to those who wait, not for those who wait too late. - Bill Withers
https://twitter.com/samcallah/status/1674886598218125312?t=OcZnwnFCxVQlkKzIAX2pnQ&s=19
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Hot off my new 3D printer (Creality K1)
Was hoping that this might kick off the next bull run?
Printed using Gold silk PLA.


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Hot off my new 3D printer (Creality K1)
Was hoping that this might kick off the next bull run?
Printed using Gold silk PLA.




nice!

I hope it has balls...
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Hey buddy, no more than three in a row, we agreed didn't we

Phil, are you sleeping or what? Tongue

Was out most of the day. What's up
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