Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[JorgeStolfi]

Nice trades on Huobi, the whole trade window is basically 0.01 BTC sell followed by 0.01BTC buy, one after another, short time spans. Feels like everyone took a snack break in China.

Indeed right now there is a very steady background traffic of ~1.8 BTC/min, started not long ago.  Check the 1m chart.

I recall seeing a similar steady background activity at MtGOX in December 2013, for days at a time.  And OKCoin may have had it, but much larger, since I started looking. 

Is that some bizarre tradng strategy, Huobi getting desperate about the low volume, or what?

[RandomPedestrianN9]

Nice trades on Huobi, the whole trade window is basically 0.01 BTC sell followed by 0.01BTC buy, one after another, short time spans. Feels like everyone took a snack break in China.

Indeed right now there is a very steady background traffic of ~1.8 BTC/min, started not long ago.  Check the 1m chart.

I recall seeing a similar steady background activity at MtGOX in December 2013, for days at a time.  And OKCoin may have had it, but much larger, since I started looking. 

Is that some bizarre tradng strategy, Huobi getting desperate about the low volume, or what?

I think this artificial trading has been there since the beginning and only got more obvious now because of low volume. A stock i invested in a year ago had similar micro changes in price when everyone was waiting for news to come out. Its supposed to encourage traders activity, gotta admit it looks funny in situations like this.

[Davyd05]

Man all I've been able to do is add to my ignore list as of late...I think I may have been the first to ignore that ped kid as I've been enjoying the odd quote that includes her/him that confirms my suspicions.

Let's see what Monday brings, China has been so quiet as of late on regulation...even Canada had a negative outlook from the banks recently.

[RandomPedestrianN9]

Man all I've been able to do is add to my ignore list as of late...I think I may have been the first to ignore that ped kid as I've been enjoying the odd quote that includes her/him that confirms my suspicions.

Let's see what Monday brings, China has been so quiet as of late on regulation...even Canada had a negative outlook from the banks recently.

Welcome to Ignore. You guys need to try harder. Try ignoring 99.999% of the world supporting FUD (the truth).

[oda.krell]

Man all I've been able to do is add to my ignore list as of late...I think I may have been the first to ignore that ped kid as I've been enjoying the odd quote that includes her/him that confirms my suspicions.

Let's see what Monday brings, China has been so quiet as of late on regulation...even Canada had a negative outlook from the banks recently.

I really preferred the old system, where new accounts were required to post first in the newbie section. Too bad it looks like theymos won't bring that back though.

[RandomPedestrianN9]

Man all I've been able to do is add to my ignore list as of late...I think I may have been the first to ignore that ped kid as I've been enjoying the odd quote that includes her/him that confirms my suspicions.

Let's see what Monday brings, China has been so quiet as of late on regulation...even Canada had a negative outlook from the banks recently.

I really preferred the old system, where new accounts were required to post first in the newbie section. Too bad it looks like theymos won't bring that back though.

Yes, very valuable post, thank you. Welcome to Ignore.

[Davyd05]

Man all I've been able to do is add to my ignore list as of late...I think I may have been the first to ignore that ped kid as I've been enjoying the odd quote that includes her/him that confirms my suspicions.

Let's see what Monday brings, China has been so quiet as of late on regulation...even Canada had a negative outlook from the banks recently.

I really preferred the old system, where new accounts were required to post first in the newbie section. Too bad it looks like theymos won't bring that back though.

It made tons of sense to me and helped me find the forum I wanted to be on when I first joined.

But hey the ignore works for both sides so we got that atleast.

[JorgeStolfi]

Indeed right now there is a very steady background traffic of ~1.8 BTC/min, started not long ago.  Check the 1m chart.

I think this artificial trading has been there since the beginning and only got more obvious now because of low volume. A stock i invested in a year ago had similar micro changes in price when everyone was waiting for news to come out. Its supposed to encourage traders activity, gotta admit it looks funny in situations like this.

I have looked a lot at Huobi's data for the last 3 months, especially at late night hours, and never saw such pattern.  Volume was usually very low and irregular between 02:00 and 06:00 local time, which is 18:00 and  22:00 UTC.  This steady background started suddenly today at 18:11 UTC. 

This backgound, if it continues the whole day, will add ~2700 BTC to Huobi's daily volume (which was 9279 BTC yesterday (Sat May/17), and looks like it will be amost the same today.

[Hen0xyd]

Is the "This user is currently ignored" sentence some new meme, cause I see more and more people using it nowadays...

Does anyone have an IgnoreList chart to provide ? or more seriously a bitcointalk number of users chart ?

On-topic : we already broke linear resistance trendline, and are really close to the log. one.
I guess the 2 next weeks will be interesting. Time to send more fiat onto exchanges (whether breaking up or down).

[600watt]

 the ignored seem to take over kinda sorta ...

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[Benjig]

i dont like that chart when the green wall is like that.

[gentlemand]

I promised myself that when I get an entire page of ignores I'll go find another place to hang out. The day is coming sooner than I anticipated.

[shmadz]

You can't.  You have throw away that number and  compute a valid number.  It costs about $2k to buy 1 ghps, which burns .2 joule/gh at $0.1/kwh, and which gives you a 1.3x10^-8 chance at every 25 btc block reward (one every 9 minutes).  That difficulty increases 20% at each adjustment, every 12.8 days.  Now calculate.

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[I wonder especially about the "Total network hash rate: NHR = 65'000'000 GH/s", is that really per second, per day, or what?]

there is no way to really calculate the total hash rate, we can only estimate based on the current difficulty and the speed at which blocks are created.

luck plays a role, and the hashrate estimate seems to be fluctuating between 65-85 peta hashes per second currently, so the blockchain data seems roughly close enough. (source = http://bitcoin.sipa.be/  )

And yes, that is actually 65 Trillion Quadrillion hashes per second. pretty impressive for an open-source beta project, don't you think?


-also, just noticed this part

Technology-dependent data:
 
  Cost of equipment: CEQ = 2000 USD/(GH/s) (modern equipment)
 
   [Source: @aminorex]

I think that's a typo or something, should be closer to 2000 USD/(TH/s) I believe.

[Krabby]

Getting rid of those stashes...

[JorgeStolfi]

Huobi's 1m chart is crazy.  There is a relatively large actual spread, and an ongoing fight between the "0.01 BTC" ping-pong robot, whose purpose apparently is to keep the price near the top of the spread, and other users who are trying to sell.

[JorgeStolfi]

-also, just noticed this part

Technology-dependent data:
 
  Cost of equipment: CEQ = 2000 USD/(GH/s) (modern equipment)
 
   [Source: @aminorex]

I think that's a typo or something, should be closer to 2000 USD/(TH/s) I believe.

Thanks! That makes more sense... 

[JorgeStolfi]

there is no way to really calculate the total hash rate, we can only estimate based on the current difficulty and the speed at which blocks are created.

luck plays a role, and the hashrate estimate seems to be fluctuating between 65-85 peta hashes per second currently, so the blockchain data seems roughly close enough. (source = http://bitcoin.sipa.be/  )

And yes, that is actually 65 quadrillion hashes per second. pretty impressive for an open-source beta project, don't you think?

Thanks! Yes, pretty impressive.

All my computing life I have been taught and taught students how to compute things in the most efficient way.  It turns my stomach seeing that much computing power (and electrical power) wasted. 

Do you people really believe that big miners will be more honest and less greedy than big bankers?

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[KFR]

there is no way to really calculate the total hash rate, we can only estimate based on the current difficulty and the speed at which blocks are created.

luck plays a role, and the hashrate estimate seems to be fluctuating between 65-85 peta hashes per second currently, so the blockchain data seems roughly close enough. (source = http://bitcoin.sipa.be/  )

And yes, that is actually 65 quadrillion hashes per second. pretty impressive for an open-source beta project, don't you think?

Thanks! Yes, pretty impressive.

All my computing life I have been taught and taught students how to compute things in the most efficient way.  It turns my stomach seeing that much computing power (and electrical power) wasted.  

Do you people really believe that big miners will be more honest and less greedy than big bankers?

Again your crystal ball might need cleaning.

Even with Bitcoin becoming ubiquitous it would take a great deal of time to replace the massively unbalanced status quo with a whole new massively unbalanced scenario - and that turn of events is by no means certain.  

During that time, finance would be fairer.  

That hashing power is facilitating and securing that fairness.  So it's not wasted.