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[rpietila]

Based on my anectodical experience, people who mislike usage of "Facts U Dislike" are prone to mislabeling facts they don't like as FUD, as in "Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt". It's a kneejerk reaction to anything that might not be good, and questions its authenticity and nature.

Based on my psychological skill, the people who keep FUD's original meaning will on average have 10 times better ROI in the next 3 years, compared to the people who troll with "facts you dislike".

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[oda.krell]

There is a difference between using "facts U dislike" for FUD and hodl for hold.  HODL is innocent and a non-substantive form of fun. 

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So many words. So little information.

Completely agree with dropt on this one: 'facts U dislike' and 'hodl' are both rather idiotic expressions, at least when used ad nauseam as is common in here, and those who use them regularly do themselves a disfavor in my opinion.

And thinking the former sucks, while the latter is "innocent and fun", well, that's just the bull in you talking.

[dreamspark]

These are the sorts of walls that can see us rally +$100 in a day.

[N12]

Based on my anectodical experience, people who mislike usage of "Facts U Dislike" are prone to mislabeling facts they don't like as FUD, as in "Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt". It's a kneejerk reaction to anything that might not be good, and questions its authenticity and nature.

Based on my psychological skill, the people who keep FUD's original meaning will on average have 10 times better ROI in the next 3 years, compared to the people who troll with "facts you dislike".

But if the "original FUD" crowd, as you certainly believe, makes a fortune, then /10 that fortune is still a fortune and an amazing return. Is that really what you meant to say?

There is a difference between using "facts U dislike" for FUD and hodl for hold.  HODL is innocent and a non-substantive form of fun. 

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'facts U dislike' and 'hodl' are both rather idiotic expressions, at least when used ad nauseam as is common in here

Seriously? Never seen anyone else using it until this particular instance. Where on earth do you see that ad nauseam? Funny how vitriolic people are because of that phrase.

[nanobrain]

There is a difference between using "facts U dislike" for FUD and hodl for hold.  HODL is innocent and a non-substantive form of fun.  

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So many words. So little information.

LOL...that should be JJG's signature. 

[N12]

There is a difference between using "facts U dislike" for FUD and hodl for hold.  HODL is innocent and a non-substantive form of fun.  

[snip]

So many words. So little information.

LOL...that should be JJG's signature. 

"NOT" funny

[oda.krell]

Seriously? Never seen anyone else using it until this particular instance. Where on earth do you see that ad nauseam? Funny how vitriolic people are because of that phrase.

I'm not vitriolic about it, but I really dislike any kind of unthoughtful, meme-y kind of speech. Or rather: I can't really take the rest serious if someone throws in meme-style speech patterns.

EDIT: great, now I have "how to pronounce meme" in my head...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejSRqO74Lik

[N12]

What I do see being (ab)used ad nauseam is FUD (some news I don't like? Oh yeah, FUD!), and "Facts U Dislike" to me is a counter to that. Fire with fire.

As to that, I don't really like the HODL CCMF 2DAMOON either, but you won't see me complaining. And really now, can you even remotely compare the two in frequency? That's why I am bewildered about the (feigned?) annoyance.

PS: Who wrote that quote in your signature? Mat too?

[JayJuanGee]

Based on my anectodical experience, people who mislike usage of "Facts U Dislike" are prone to mislabeling facts they don't like as FUD, as in "Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt". It's a kneejerk reaction to anything that might not be good, and questions its authenticity and nature.

You are oversimplifying matters.  These two concepts are NOT the same, and you should know better, especially as a moderator.

I agree with you that some facts are misunderstood, difficult to diceipher or some facts are NOT accepted, but that is a different story than attempting to spread rumors to conflate these two uses of the term FUD.

I have NO problem talking about and presenting and debating negative or unfavorable facts, so long as the facts are truly facts rather than opinions, probabilities and speculations framed as absolute facts.

So, let us engage in a dialogue and a conversation rather than labeling.  I have NO problem with a dialogue that is done in good faith and that is substantiated.... and/or qualified and/or clearly articulated, or good faith attempts at such.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[atoni]

BitStamp order book looks much nicer now

[oda.krell]

What I do see being (ab)used ad nauseam is FUD (some news I don't like? Oh yeah, FUD!), and "Facts U Dislike" to me is a counter to that. Fire with fire.

As to that, I don't really like the HODL CCMF 2DAMOON either, but you won't see me complaining. And really now, can you even remotely compare the two in frequency? That's why I am bewildered about the (feigned?) annoyance.

PS: Who wrote that quote in your signature? Mat too?

Right. But you also do know this is to be expected, given that this is a forum where everyone sane is at least on some level "bullish". (the only ones who aren't have to suffer from some kind of messianic complex, trying to save us from ourselves )

[JayJuanGee]

Based on my anectodical experience, people who mislike usage of "Facts U Dislike" are prone to mislabeling facts they don't like as FUD, as in "Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt". It's a kneejerk reaction to anything that might not be good, and questions its authenticity and nature.

Based on my psychological skill, the people who keep FUD's original meaning will on average have 10 times better ROI in the next 3 years, compared to the people who troll with "facts you dislike".

+1   

[JayJuanGee]

There is a difference between using "facts U dislike" for FUD and hodl for hold.  HODL is innocent and a non-substantive form of fun. 

[snip]

So many words. So little information.

Completely agree with dropt on this one: 'facts U dislike' and 'hodl' are both rather idiotic expressions, at least when used ad nauseam as is common in here, and those who use them regularly do themselves a disfavor in my opinion.

And thinking the former sucks, while the latter is "innocent and fun", well, that's just the bull in you talking.

Yes, you cut out my information b/c it is much more convenient for you to keep up with this bearshit line of reasoning  (attempt at acting like you are more neutral than the bulls, here).  I provided a decent explanation, and surely it could have been shorter and better stated.  Nonetheless, I provided a logical explanation that was neither bearish nor bullish, and you attempt to negate my explanation by dismissing it as bull-ish (but conveniently, you "snip" it out so you do NOT have to be bothered with its contents).   Your attempt here to oversimplify does a disservice to your assertion that I am supposedly biased by a bullish view on this FUD topic. 

[Arghhh]

My reaction to this spike


Not sure if pump-and-dump or breakout.
Need at least a week of volume to confirm.

[SFHere]

Interesting to watch right now but I won't be convinced until it goes 465+

[ShroomsKit]

Don't worry everyone. Tera will soon be here to explain to us how this really means that we're going down.

[JayJuanGee]

There is a difference between using "facts U dislike" for FUD and hodl for hold.  HODL is innocent and a non-substantive form of fun.  

[snip]

So many words. So little information.

LOL...that should be JJG's signature.  

Yes, seems difficult for some nanobrains (oh wait???) to comprehend any ideas that are  expressed more complexly than one or two sentences.  

[NotLambchop]

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I'm not vitriolic about it, but I really dislike any kind of unthoughtful, meme-y kind of speech. Or rather: I can't really take the rest serious if someone throws in meme-style speech patterns.
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We The Enlightened had a choice:  rely on tedious and fallible cryptology, or use meme-riddled, apparently thoughtless speech patterns and hide in plain sight amongst the oda.krells <==decoy smiley

[oda.krell]

There is a difference between using "facts U dislike" for FUD and hodl for hold.  HODL is innocent and a non-substantive form of fun.  

[snip]

So many words. So little information.

Completely agree with dropt on this one: 'facts U dislike' and 'hodl' are both rather idiotic expressions, at least when used ad nauseam as is common in here, and those who use them regularly do themselves a disfavor in my opinion.

And thinking the former sucks, while the latter is "innocent and fun", well, that's just the bull in you talking.

Yes, you cut out my information b/c it is much more convenient for you to keep up with this bearshit line of reasoning  (attempt at acting like you are more neutral than the bulls, here).  I provided a decent explanation, and surely it could have been shorter and better stated.  Nonetheless, I provided a logical explanation that was neither bearish nor bullish, and you attempt to negate my explanation by dismissing it as bull-ish (but conveniently, you "snip" it out so you do NOT have to be bothered with its contents).   Your attempt here to oversimplify does a disservice to your assertion that I am supposedly biased by a bullish view on this FUD topic.  

Look, I'll try to keep it short, and I'd ask you to do the same:

During the past 2, 3 months, most news about the Chinese exchanges was greeted by "FUD" in here, by and large.

Now, we'd probably agree that those "news" were hardly worth the name, but they were also not what you should strictly call "FUD" -- those who posted (and discussed) the items were not necessarily trolling. I know I wasn't.

So renaming FUD as "facts u dislike" was probably an attempt to counter that. I personally don't like it, but I liked it even less that discussing news events was suddenly grounds for being suspected of un-bitcoinian activities.