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you simply may have been number 65 for a few hours and not number 65 for 6 or 7 days
Faheshang, Philipma's right on...postponed for a few blocks now, so the short answer is that you're just ramping up. Without getting into herp and all, you can kinda see that by looking at the current hash-rates (1m, 5m) v the long-term ones (1d, 7d). With the current hash you are putting in, and assuming you are running those 24/7, looks like you are maybe ~20% ramped up. You will need to keep all running for another 8d to reach your full share-potential.
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July 05, 2018, 04:57:04 PM Last edit: July 06, 2018, 12:43:27 AM by frodocooper |
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Thanks for the quick answer. Current Block Reward: 12.55810969
Current Difficulty Needed: 5,363,678,461,481
Pool 5 min: 114P
Estimated time between blocks: 2 days, 8 hours, 8 min, 0 sec
Estimated time for new miner to hit full 5N: 11 days, 16 hours, 40 min, 2 sec
Pool's current block diff (percent submitted of 1 block expected): 5.5%
Time left to block (assuming perfect world 100%): 2 days, 5 hours, 2 min, 46 sec
1LN2xEQywL9jK9jtnTunFBZbe5CH7CdHpd
My 5 min: 60.8T
If we hit a block right now, I'd get:
0.019927% of the current payout
0.00250248 BTC
$16.56 (at $6618.34 BTC/USD)
Does this readout from Computer Genie mean anything?
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July 05, 2018, 05:02:15 PM |
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it is like your test average in school.
5 tests need to be done so if you only took 1
and did 100 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 you are 100/5 = a 20 not a 100
here 5 blocks need to be done in terms of shares about 5,363,678,461,481 is 100% of even luck.
so if you are 65th
for block not five in a row
you are 65 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0
if you are in 65th place for 5 sets of shares in a row
you are 65 + 65 + 65 + 65 + 65 this will get you paid
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July 05, 2018, 05:08:58 PM Last edit: July 05, 2018, 05:31:40 PM by faheshang |
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it is like your test average in school.
5 tests need to be done
here 5 blocks need to be done in terms of shares about 5,363,678,461,481 is 100% of even luck.
so if you are 65th
for block not five in a row
you are 65 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0
if you are in 65th place for 5 sets of shares in a row
you are 65 + 65 + 65 + 65 + 65 this will get you paid
I used to be on Kano Pool so I somewhat understand 5N ramp up. What I don't understand is the differences between Kano Pool and Ckpool. Also, the computer genie readout seems misleading. "If we hit a block right now, I'd get: 0.019927% of the current payout 0.00250248 BTC $16.56 (at $6618.34 BTC/USD)" Thanks for the explanation.
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Block!!! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Block!!! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Happy Fifth . .. of July and 4th block of July. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Block!!! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Happy Fifth . .. of July and 4th block of July. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) diff 60.5 ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) http://ckpool.org/blocks/530580.confirmed "solvedby": "36JMs8rogpizjkkp6eeKMmm3SLbSNo5H9V", "date": "[2018-07-05 13:24:31.031]", "hash": "00000000000000000030926133424a36e01b145e687b8338c8ccf84b259f85db", "shares": 3243862402422, "diff": 60.5 Are any of the rest of us ever going to be the finder? ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) [2018-07-05 13:24:30.963] Possible block solve diff 5794940827930.869141 ! [2018-07-05 13:24:31.029] BLOCK ACCEPTED! [2018-07-05 13:24:31.036] Solved block 530580 by 36JMs8rogpizjkkp6eeKMmm3SLbSNo5H9V.msT1x127x78 [2018-07-05 13:24:31.037] User 36JMs8rogpizjkkp6eeKMmm3SLbSNo5H9V:{"hashrate1m": "107P", "hashrate5m": "105P", "hashrate1hr": "104P", "hashrate1d": "94.9P", "hashrate7d": "104P"} [2018-07-05 13:24:31.037] Worker 36JMs8rogpizjkkp6eeKMmm3SLbSNo5H9V.msT1x127x78:{"hashrate1m": "13.1T", "hashrate5m": "16.1T", "hashrate1hr": "16.1T", "hashrate1d": "6.83T", "hashrate7d": "8.08T"} [2018-07-05 13:38:20.035] Hash for block height 530580 confirms block was CONFIRMED
https://btc.com/00000000000000000030926133424a36e01b145e687b8338c8ccf84b259f85dbhttp://ckpool.org/blocks/530580.confirmed
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July 06, 2018, 12:46:00 AM |
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...Also, the computer genie readout seems misleading. "If we hit a block right now, I'd get:
0.019927% of the current payout
0.00250248 BTC
$16.56 (at $6618.34 BTC/USD)" ....
What do you feel is "misleading" about that? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) If we hit a block, at that instant, that's exactly what you'd get paid in that block.
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If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer. Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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July 06, 2018, 05:26:17 AM |
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...Also, the computer genie readout seems misleading. "If we hit a block right now, I'd get:
0.019927% of the current payout
0.00250248 BTC
$16.56 (at $6618.34 BTC/USD)" ....
What do you feel is "misleading" about that? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) If we hit a block, at that instant, that's exactly what you'd get paid in that block. Only thing misleading is our luck right now. I havent opened the Winderlea from before yet. I suppose the right thing to do is wait? Should we take a poll? *edit to denote that our luck is awesome right now*
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July 06, 2018, 05:36:18 AM |
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...I havent opened the Winderlea from before yet....
Who tha hell drinks wine from Oregon ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer. Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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July 06, 2018, 12:10:16 PM Last edit: July 06, 2018, 01:32:45 PM by faheshang |
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...Also, the computer genie readout seems misleading. "If we hit a block right now, I'd get:
0.019927% of the current payout
0.00250248 BTC
$16.56 (at $6618.34 BTC/USD)" ....
What do you feel is "misleading" about that? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) If we hit a block, at that instant, that's exactly what you'd get paid in that block. What I have been trying to explain is that I had about .00245 btc on the computer genie readout when the when the last block was found and I did not receive a payout. Any ideas?
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July 06, 2018, 12:19:54 PM |
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...Also, the computer genie readout seems misleading. "If we hit a block right now, I'd get:
0.019927% of the current payout
0.00250248 BTC
$16.56 (at $6618.34 BTC/USD)" ....
What do you feel is "misleading" about that? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) If we hit a block, at that instant, that's exactly what you'd get paid in that block. Only thing misleading is our luck right now. I havent opened the Winderlea from before yet. I suppose the right thing to do is wait? Should we take a poll? *edit to denote that our luck is awesome right now* Actually, the other thing that is misleading is that I did not receive a payout when the computer genie readout was about .00245 btc at the last block and I was on the payout list but not on the coinbase list for the block at btc.com.
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July 06, 2018, 12:54:44 PM |
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...I havent opened the Winderlea from before yet....
Who tha hell drinks wine from Oregon ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Lots of people, we're famous for pinot. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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July 06, 2018, 01:49:33 PM |
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...Also, the computer genie readout seems misleading. "If we hit a block right now, I'd get:
0.019927% of the current payout
0.00250248 BTC
$16.56 (at $6618.34 BTC/USD)" ....
What do you feel is "misleading" about that? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) If we hit a block, at that instant, that's exactly what you'd get paid in that block. Only thing misleading is our luck right now. I havent opened the Winderlea from before yet. I suppose the right thing to do is wait? Should we take a poll? *edit to denote that our luck is awesome right now* Actually, the other thing that is misleading is that I did not receive a payout when the computer genie readout was about .00245 btc at the last block and I was on the payout list but not on the coinbase list for the block at btc.com. Only CG can answer to his work. I know he was kind enough to build that for people with basic questions like time to block, ramp up duration etc. it's not misleading. It's a helpful tool. You probably just missed cut off while ramping up when the block hit, looks like 0.0019 was the last before alternating payout. With 60 th/s your derp will move into a solid payout rate even while ramping up here, which it may have already.
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July 06, 2018, 02:40:21 PM |
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What I have been trying to explain is that I had about .00245 btc on the computer genie readout when the when the last block was found and I did not receive a payout. Any ideas?
If that is, in fact, true ( meaning that you checked the instant before we hit a block and not right after, since after is representative of a new block and not a block past) then I leave this question to ck (as my page is nothing more than a literal pull of the pool's JSON)...
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What I have been trying to explain is that I had about .00245 btc on the computer genie readout when the when the last block was found and I did not receive a payout. Any ideas?
If that is, in fact, true ( meaning that you checked the instant before we hit a block and not right after, since after is representative of a new block and not a block past) then I leave this question to ck (as my page is nothing more than a literal pull of the pool's JSON)... Maybe -ck can explain my confusion over the tool readout and the corresponding derp on my user page. Thanks
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What I have been trying to explain is that I had about .00245 btc on the computer genie readout when the when the last block was found and I did not receive a payout. Any ideas?
... since after is representative of a new block and not a block past ... Faheshang, I think a lot of folks get confused on this, so I will try to clarify. All the data on the pool site (and thus on CG's page) represent the current work and the state for/toward the next block. Immediately after finding a block, the coinbase explorer will show what was paid out on the just-found block, but anything on the ckpool site (or on CG's page) will show data for the next, yet-to-be-found block. This means you can't compare the two directly, other than keeping your own track of where you are in the pool, and then seeing that turn to payout on a block-find. I hope that helps!
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July 06, 2018, 03:14:17 PM Last edit: July 06, 2018, 03:24:25 PM by faheshang |
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What I have been trying to explain is that I had about .00245 btc on the computer genie readout when the when the last block was found and I did not receive a payout. Any ideas?
... since after is representative of a new block and not a block past ... Faheshang, I think a lot of folks get confused on this, so I will try to clarify. All the data on the pool site (and thus on CG's page) represent the current work and the state for/toward the next block. Immediately after finding a block, the coinbase explorer will show what was paid out on the just-found block, but anything on the ckpool site (or on CG's page) will show data for the next, yet-to-be-found block. This means you can't compare the two directly, other than keeping your own track of where you are in the pool, and then seeing that turn to payout on a block-find. I hope that helps! Yes I understand this. My derp on my user page and the readout from computergenie were steadily rising before the last block was found. Just before the block was found I was at around .00245 and after the block was found it was slightly higher and is still steadily increasing. Maybe the "work" list on ckpool.org still had me as postponed when the last block was found. I wasn't checking the work list constantly like I was checking the derp value.
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...I havent opened the Winderlea from before yet....
Who tha hell drinks wine from Oregon ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Lots of people, we're famous for pinot. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Yes we are, and I don't even drink wine.
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July 06, 2018, 04:37:09 PM |
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..Maybe the "work" list on ckpool.org still had me as postponed when the last block was found...
If that were the case, then my page would read "My postponed amount is:" and not "If we hit a block right now, I'd get: " (again: it's pulled live, directly from the work JSON)
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July 06, 2018, 05:23:40 PM |
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...I havent opened the Winderlea from before yet....
Who tha hell drinks wine from Oregon ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Lots of people, we're famous for pinot. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Yes we are, and I don't even drink wine. Oregon pinot even has specific glasses if we really want to get fancy about it.
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Block (530771)...Party!
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