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June 04, 2018, 04:20:51 PM
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Understood. It sure distorts our diff% when they go away. I know it is just a warm fuzzy stat but going back to 21PH to find a block is not going to occur in the statistical timeframe the difficulty % reflects. Just an observation. Not a complaint.

More hashrate = more shares = more blocks = more frequent payouts = less variance. I am happy about that. We are getting our share we worked anyway, so everything is fair.

As long as we hit a block with them. What is the impact when we go back to 21PH when they leave before we hit a block? I am glad they are on. But it is only beneficial if we hit while they are on. If this is incorrect I am open to being corrected, please.  Main point is the statistical luck is what it is. This major variance in hash just distorts diff% figures and expectations may be skewed.

they collect when they leave.  just as same as anyone else.

you have a classic the glass is half empty mindset.  you are correct but it simply is the attitude of a pessimist.

BTW they have hit multiple blocks if I am correct.

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June 04, 2018, 04:44:09 PM
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Understood. It sure distorts our diff% when they go away. I know it is just a warm fuzzy stat but going back to 21PH to find a block is not going to occur in the statistical timeframe the difficulty % reflects. Just an observation. Not a complaint.

More hashrate = more shares = more blocks = more frequent payouts = less variance. I am happy about that. We are getting our share we worked anyway, so everything is fair.

As long as we hit a block with them. What is the impact when we go back to 21PH when they leave before we hit a block? I am glad they are on. But it is only beneficial if we hit while they are on. If this is incorrect I am open to being corrected, please.  Main point is the statistical luck is what it is. This major variance in hash just distorts diff% figures and expectations may be skewed.

they collect when they leave.  just as same as anyone else.

you have a classic the glass is half empty mindset.  you are correct but it simply is the attitude of a pessimist.

BTW they have hit multiple blocks if I am correct.

With all due respect you misunderstand me. I have no problems they are on. Damn, if it wasn't for Halong I would not be mining.  I am not a pessimist or optimist. I just want to learn the facts. I am asking specific questions that some are reading motive into. Please read my posts fully. No motive, no attitude. Just want to learn what I can so I speak w facts not "I believe so's".  Very respectfully,  thanks
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June 04, 2018, 04:55:21 PM
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...Once a block is found a search for a new block commences. Statistical 'luck' may provide a probability/diff% of your chances in finding the next block. The work you did on the last block or before has NO bearing on helping a miner find the next block...
More specifically, every hash has a 1 in 4,306,949,573,981 chance of finding a block. Since we're not in a vacuum and working on new blocks every ~10 minutes, not only do previous shares not have any effect on that probability, previous hashes don't have a measurable impact either.

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June 04, 2018, 04:58:39 PM
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...Once a block is found a search for a new block commences. Statistical 'luck' may provide a probability/diff% of your chances in finding the next block. The work you did on the last block or before has NO bearing on helping a miner find the next block...
More specifically, every hash has a 1 in 4,306,949,573,981 chance of finding a block. Since we're not in a vacuum and working on new blocks every ~10 minutes, not only do previous shares not have any effect on that probability, previous hashes don't have a measurable impact either.
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June 04, 2018, 11:20:59 PM
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Will Bitcoin be affected by the 51% attacks going on in the news?

Does this have any impact on mining pools / solo pools?
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June 04, 2018, 11:21:25 PM
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Will Bitcoin be affected by the 51% attacks going on in the news?

Does this have any impact on mining pools / solo pools?
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June 04, 2018, 11:35:52 PM
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Hang in there Halong until we find a block. Thanks!! In advance.
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June 05, 2018, 06:54:25 PM
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Hello, i'll be in next today with my 131TH farm can any one expect how often we found a block
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June 06, 2018, 02:58:19 AM
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Although I feel it's poor form for a company to mine on a small community pool. I had already thought it's bad enough minefarmbuy is here, even though I did get one of their promo s9's a little while back. LOL

Just kidding btw, any small loss will be made up if they stick it out and mine farm guy is just on their personal rigs? Not company? Regardless we're about due for block soon.
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Although I feel it's poor form for a company to mine on a small community pool. I had already thought it's bad enough minefarmbuy is here, even though I did get one of their promo s9's a little while back. LOL

Just kidding btw, any small loss will be made up if they stick it out and mine farm guy is just on their personal rigs? Not company? Regardless we're about due for block soon.

no one likes a big player when luck is not good.

we are past 6,013,787,741,358 by the big player

I have been dragged down from 0.042 to 0.034 and I am debating if I should do  big ass rental to catch back up

I am renting since I don't want to drop down

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June 06, 2018, 03:59:52 AM
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So phil did you rent 2ph?
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June 06, 2018, 04:00:42 AM
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So phil did you rent 2ph?

yeah  for a few hours  to get closer to the 0.04 threshold.

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June 06, 2018, 05:16:51 AM
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So we have a battle for 14th place
Phil with 2P rental is quickly gaining on Philo without his hydro upgrade and a wounded electric panel can only muster 40% of his horsepower...

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June 06, 2018, 11:06:01 AM
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So we have a battle for 14th place
Phil with 2P rental is quickly gaining on Philo without his hydro upgrade and a wounded electric panel can only muster 40% of his horsepower...

Stay tuned sports fans

my brief glorious run is done and I am done to 45th Angry

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June 06, 2018, 12:03:03 PM
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my brief glorious run is done and I am done to 45th Angry
If it makes you feel better, I'm still literally in decay while running ~80  Tongue

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June 06, 2018, 01:53:46 PM
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Although I feel it's poor form for a company to mine on a small community pool. I had already thought it's bad enough minefarmbuy is here, even though I did get one of their promo s9's a little while back. LOL

Just kidding btw, any small loss will be made up if they stick it out and mine farm guy is just on their personal rigs? Not company? Regardless we're about due for block soon.

Most of brokers the here at mfb don't mine and just are hodlers. The company doesn't mine at all as we don't carry inventory and try to ship directly as much as we can. Alleviating need for any warehousing or storage. 

I mine here personally yes, but I'm not even top 20. I think my loss from the the large added hash is maybe 10 usd (or less now) if we hit a block today. It looks like my derp is starting to gain again since our pool hash rate is stabilizing.

More current note: Let the battle of the "Phil's" commence!!

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June 06, 2018, 08:49:07 PM
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If one is in the Postponed group but solves a block, is there any remuneration at all?

Or does it improve ones stats in some way like moving up the payout ladder for the next block?

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June 06, 2018, 09:06:03 PM
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If one is in the Postponed group but solves a block, is there any remuneration at all?

Or does it improve ones stats in some way like moving up the payout ladder for the next block?

Short answer, it helps you out on the next block.

How much is not explicitly specified, I suspect because of the inherit dependence on how soon that subsequent block is found.

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June 06, 2018, 09:08:01 PM
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If one is in the Postponed group but solves a block, is there any remuneration at all?

Or does it improve ones stats in some way like moving up the payout ladder for the next block?


It adds a stored payout amount which is added to the next block, and moves you up the pay queue. Those that aren't in the top 100 but are above the dust limit get put into the pay queue depending on how many block they've been postponed. Those that have been postponed the most blocks are first to get paid.

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June 06, 2018, 11:51:15 PM
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Yay block found!!!

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