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August 11, 2022, 06:12:19 AM
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Stupid move if they continue to hold this player. Currently Chelsea are reportedly ready to spend 72 million pounds just for De Jong and this means the same as MU's previous offer.
On the other hand for Auba right now his chances are a bit difficult but actually there is still hope even if it is small, But if he really wants to get more time then Chelsea now can be a good place.
The problem now depends on De Jong, whether he wants to join the Chelsea team or not because De Jong also rejected Manchester United for the same thing. So I'm also confused as to why he turned it down and just wants to stay at Barcelona with a pay cut and less playing time. So I think it would be a stupid move if De Jong still turned down Chelsea with that amount of offer.

As fans, we we can only guess and say he was stupid to turn down some offers but is our guess right? No one knows
For sure he is not as stupid as we think he has an agent who can discuss with him there's no way the two of them would take such a ridiculous decision
That means there's another reason we don't know only they and management know better.
Chelsea should be a good club for De Jong. but somehow De Jong's considerations forced him to continue to stay at Barca. although he is no longer in Xavi's strategy. and it could be bad for Barca when their new player can't be registered for La Liga this season. Barca also seems to still have problems with several other players who want to be excluded from the squad.


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August 11, 2022, 06:46:33 AM
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Antonio Conte plans to "clear up" by selling four players at once. The four players to be sold are Ndombele, Winks, Lo Celso and Reguilon. Of the four players, there are two clubs from two different leagues who want Tottenham players, namely Villareal and Napoli.

Villareal are interested in Lo Celso and Napoli are interested in taking Tanguy Ndombele.
News of Sevilla's interest in Reguilon circulated strongly around London, but the Spanish club brought in Alex Telles from Manchester United.



No one knows exactly what happened with Tottenham Hotspur and Ndombele & Lo Celso, regarding their potential transfer exits this summer, when both players were Hotspur's most prominent main players. Has their departure this summer been linked to their hefty weekly salary?
Only Harry Winks is considered by clubs interested in him regarding salary. The 26-year-old has been rumored to be interested in Sampdoria and the Premier League club but they are considering the salary he will earn.
In particular no one knows exactly, but they were left out by Conte as Tottenham Hotspur pre-season to Korea and Israel.
In the first game Tottenham won 4-1 against Southampton, they were also not in the squad. This is a strong signal.

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August 11, 2022, 06:49:02 AM
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Stupid move if they continue to hold this player. Currently Chelsea are reportedly ready to spend 72 million pounds just for De Jong and this means the same as MU's previous offer.
On the other hand for Auba right now his chances are a bit difficult but actually there is still hope even if it is small, But if he really wants to get more time then Chelsea now can be a good place.
The problem now depends on De Jong, whether he wants to join the Chelsea team or not because De Jong also rejected Manchester United for the same thing. So I'm also confused as to why he turned it down and just wants to stay at Barcelona with a pay cut and less playing time. So I think it would be a stupid move if De Jong still turned down Chelsea with that amount of offer.
Chelsea are willing to pay transfer fee according to his current price and i think this is good news for him but the drama for his transfer has been starting again that after refuse Manchester United reported he also refuse Chelsea but Barcelona insist want to sell him because if De Jong failed to sell then Barcelona cannot register their new players even rumour is Barcelona will take legal route to rejected his contract because probably there were suspicious act while he signing the contract on 2020 and if this way successfully then Barcelona hope they will pay cheaper than his pending salary amount

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August 11, 2022, 07:42:05 AM
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Chelsea are said to be ready to sign Frenkie de Jong and Aubameyang both now. However it depends on whether Barcelona are thinking of letting them go now. Actually Barcelona are in a troubling situation when it comes to the La Liga. They will need to cut the total salary of the players somehow otherwise they might face a problem like they wouldn't be able to register some players as you know. So I wonder if they will go for selling at least one of these two players to relieve a little.

Given the current state of affairs between Barcelona and Frenkie De Jong, I don't think there would be an amicable resolution of the scores between both parties, and Eurosport claimed Barcelona have handed De Jong a transfer ultimatum, with Chelsea appearing to be the most likely destination of the midfielder subject to agreeing personal terms with the club.

Barcelona have also reiterated that they'd only be selling one of Memphis Depay and Aubameyang, with a deal for Depay from Juventus being on the radar, I strongly doubt that both De Jong and Aubameyang would be leaving for Chelsea, more likely only De Jong would in this case.

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August 11, 2022, 07:46:26 AM
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The Ten Hag will now need to pick players who can easily fit into United's squad. At the same time, Ten Hag needs to change its match strategy. United's match strategy is not good. Their attacking players are not playing well. Ten Hag should address internal issues first. I think a completely new team would improve United's performance.
True, indeed the internal problems at Manchester United must first be resolved by Ten Hag, because it can make them better for the next step. If their basic problem isn't solved, I don't think they'll be any better off in the future. If he manages to overcome that, I believe he will be able to bring about a big change for Manchester United.
Honestly I don’t know why their attacking players are not performing. It seems the system doesn’t allow them fire up. Manchester United failed to show enough urgency and were passive throughout the game. Despite consisting of creative outlets such as Bruno Fernandes, Christian Eriksen, and Jadon Sancho in the starting lineup, they failed to show enough potency and create chances to disrupt Brighton. Ten Hag go against this weekend and if it does work out, then he should change his pattern of play.

Manchester United's defence may be a bit weak. But their midfield and attack are very strong. Every player in midfield and attack is talented. Even then they are not able to play well. This is probably due to their bad match strategy. If the match strategy changes, maybe their attack will become stronger and will be able to perform well on a regular basis.

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August 11, 2022, 08:38:35 AM
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Manchester United's defence may be a bit weak. But their midfield and attack are very strong. Every player in midfield and attack is talented. Even then they are not able to play well. This is probably due to their bad match strategy. If the match strategy changes, maybe their attack will become stronger and will be able to perform well on a regular basis.

Are you sure with what you have just said in bold? There is no significant change in their midfield and forward till now. Looking at the fact of the result last season, their midfield and forward were bad. Even in their 1st match this season is also really bad. They have changed coaches for several times, means they have changed strategy for several times as well while no significant changes on that positions but what was the result? Most were the same, and I think the only way to make them better is to make at least 50% change of their current squad.

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August 11, 2022, 08:42:46 AM
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Manchester United's defence may be a bit weak. But their midfield and attack are very strong. Every player in midfield and attack is talented. Even then they are not able to play well. This is probably due to their bad match strategy. If the match strategy changes, maybe their attack will become stronger and will be able to perform well on a regular basis.

Are you sure with what you have just said in bold? There is no significant change in their midfield and forward till now. Looking at the fact of the result last season, their midfield and forward were bad. Even in their 1st match this season is also really bad. They have changed coaches for several times, means they have changed strategy for several times as well while no significant changes on that positions but what was the result? Most were the same, and I think the only way to make them better is to make at least 50% change of their current squad.
I agree that Manchester United's midfield and attack are filled with talented players. But I don't agree that they have a very strong midfield and attack. Maybe that's what it meant.
We can't judge from the players who fill and play there, but we have to how effective they are in the game. So far I haven't seen anything to look forward to there.

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August 11, 2022, 08:59:30 AM
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I don't know where De Jong's next election will be. but at the moment the interested club is United. but it is reported that United are also looking for other players if they do not succeed in bringing De Jong.

I think Barca's problem is not only with De Jong. 2 more players are said to be expelled from Barca because they are not included in Xavi's plans.
I do agree that United would love to have De Jong, the perfect player to get into the midfield, but they are looking at so many players that, this De Jong news is not a big deal. It is not like they have put all their focus on getting him, they are just "looking" at him, like ask Barcelona how much they would want, it is not even on the further stages of negotiations, which is why I doubt that it would happen.

We still have about 3 weeks to get the transfer window closed, which means that teams will get quicker but they still have time. So, United could keep on looking for other cheaper alternatives for another week or so in order to decide if they really want to pay that much for him.
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August 11, 2022, 09:00:47 AM
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Chelsea are said to be ready to sign Frenkie de Jong and Aubameyang both now. However it depends on whether Barcelona are thinking of letting them go now. Actually Barcelona are in a troubling situation when it comes to the La Liga. They will need to cut the total salary of the players somehow otherwise they might face a problem like they wouldn't be able to register some players as you know. So I wonder if they will go for selling at least one of these two players to relieve a little.
Barcelona will definitely release their players if they don't want to be caught in sanctions. But there is no certainty who the players will be released. Aubameyang will not be released because he was bought from Arsenal by Xavi Hernandez. Frenkie De Jong has the opportunity to be released to Chelsea because Barcelona are still holding out a deal with Manchester United for the De Jong process.
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August 11, 2022, 09:06:15 AM
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Are you sure with what you have just said in bold? There is no significant change in their midfield and forward till now. Looking at the fact of the result last season, their midfield and forward were bad. Even in their 1st match this season is also really bad. They have changed coaches for several times, means they have changed strategy for several times as well while no significant changes on that positions but what was the result? Most were the same, and I think the only way to make them better is to make at least 50% change of their current squad.
I agree that Manchester United's midfield and attack are filled with talented players. But I don't agree that they have a very strong midfield and attack. Maybe that's what it meant.
We can't judge from the players who fill and play there, but we have to how effective they are in the game. So far I haven't seen anything to look forward to there.
It's true, Man United has been filled with some talented players, but the role of Manchester United players has not been able to show their best quality. Man United has been swayed for a long time, since Ferguson left the coach, there has not been a single coach who has been able to develop the talent of the players that Man United has. Most tragically, Man United had to lose (leave for free) one of its most expensive players, even though Pogba can still show his best performance if handled by a coach who is able to see the talent that Pogba has.

Now that Ten Hag must be able to show his quality as a coach who is able to build trust between players, his experience at Ajax Amsterdam must be applied to Man United. The revival of Manchester United has been long awaited, the transfer of a few more players needs to be done, Ten Hag must do it immediately before the market closes.

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August 11, 2022, 09:06:50 AM
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Chelsea can finish up the signing of Frenkie de Jong for 80 million euros reportedly. Barcelona are indeed desperate about fixing their wage condition now. They wouldn't be willing to lose one of their important players normally but it looks like there is nothing else to do about it. They are hoping some of their players to take a wage cut but I don't think all of those players would be okay for that. Selling de Jong might be a solution for them now.
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August 11, 2022, 09:09:50 AM
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No one knows exactly what happened with Tottenham Hotspur and Ndombele & Lo Celso, regarding their potential transfer exits this summer, when both players were Hotspur's most prominent main players. Has their departure this summer been linked to their hefty weekly salary?
Ndombele was one of the players who performed quite well last season and it would be a shame if he was allowed to leave. But indeed with Conte's massive player spending, it is clear that the competition for Ndombele's position is getting more and more difficult, so like it or not, several players have to be sacrificed and maybe Ndombele is one of them.

It would be a pity if Tottenham let Ndombele go, because Tottenham bought Ndombele in 2019 for 65 million euros. It was a transfer fee that
broke Tottenham's transfer record at the time, but unfortunately Ndombele was reportedly not included in Conte's plans. So now Tottenham are
trying to sell him before the transfer window closes. According to rumors, Tottenham offered Ndombele to Roma, even though AC Milan seemed
to need Ndombele more. Because besides AC Milan having lost Kessie, AC Milan also failed to recruit Renato Sanches. So Tanguy Ndombele could be
the next target for AC Milan, reportedly AC Milan will also try to compete for Ndombele. In addition, there is also other news which states that Napoli
are also interested in buying Ndombele from Tottenham. That's because Napoli will soon lose Fabian Ruiz who is one step away from joining PSG.
It looks like there are quite a lot of Ndombele fans, we will see in the next few days which team makes an offer to Tottenham first.

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August 11, 2022, 09:16:52 AM
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I do agree that United would love to have De Jong, the perfect player to get into the midfield, but they are looking at so many players that, this De Jong news is not a big deal. It is not like they have put all their focus on getting him, they are just "looking" at him, like ask Barcelona how much they would want, it is not even on the further stages of negotiations, which is why I doubt that it would happen.

We still have about 3 weeks to get the transfer window closed, which means that teams will get quicker but they still have time. So, United could keep on looking for other cheaper alternatives for another week or so in order to decide if they really want to pay that much for him.
All know about how quality and talented from Frankie de Jong when playing with Barcelona and Ajax Amsterdam, but Primer League have drastically different culture and games style, I doubtful wit De Jong can he adapt with Primer League games play? Although Erik Tan Hag most excited with Frankie de Jong but he needs remember how competitive with Primer League and looks not easy with player have slowly games style can adapt friendly with Primer League, but not fault try to give chance for Frankie de Jong depending with Manchester United agree or disagree paying price offering by Barcelona and have little agreement where Barcelona as Manchester United to pay bonuses from de Jong.

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August 11, 2022, 09:25:52 AM
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The Ten Hag will now need to pick players who can easily fit into United's squad. At the same time, Ten Hag needs to change its match strategy. United's match strategy is not good. Their attacking players are not playing well. Ten Hag should address internal issues first. I think a completely new team would improve United's performance.
True, indeed the internal problems at Manchester United must first be resolved by Ten Hag, because it can make them better for the next step. If their basic problem isn't solved, I don't think they'll be any better off in the future. If he manages to overcome that, I believe he will be able to bring about a big change for Manchester United.
Honestly I don’t know why their attacking players are not performing. It seems the system doesn’t allow them fire up. Manchester United failed to show enough urgency and were passive throughout the game. Despite consisting of creative outlets such as Bruno Fernandes, Christian Eriksen, and Jadon Sancho in the starting lineup, they failed to show enough potency and create chances to disrupt Brighton. Ten Hag go against this weekend and if it does work out, then he should change his pattern of play.

Manchester United's defence may be a bit weak. But their midfield and attack are very strong. Every player in midfield and attack is talented. Even then they are not able to play well. This is probably due to their bad match strategy. If the match strategy changes, maybe their attack will become stronger and will be able to perform well on a regular basis.
Ten Hag got it all wrong against Brighton. He doesn’t understand the premier league teams too well. I was expecting Eriksen to sit in the midfield with both Fred and Mctominay as the press resistant midfield to support them in recycling possession and helping them to hold down the ball because of how Brighton had lineup with 4 ball playing midfielders in the midfield. Instead he decided to play in as a false 9, leaving Bruno in the midfield with them. It just didn’t go as plan. They should revisit their tactics this weekend and see how they can grind out result in Brentford.
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August 11, 2022, 09:29:02 AM
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I agree that Manchester United's midfield and attack are filled with talented players. But I don't agree that they have a very strong midfield and attack. Maybe that's what it meant.
We can't judge from the players who fill and play there, but we have to how effective they are in the game. So far I haven't seen anything to look forward to there.

They expected a miracle from the new coach, they expected that he would come and the team would immediately start winning, but this did not happen and probably will not happen in the near future. New players came to the team, playability are very bad, there is no understanding between them. Erik ten Hag is a good coach but it will take him a long time to change the team as he would like, but I'm not sure if he will have that time at Manchester United.

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August 11, 2022, 10:17:36 AM
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Barcelona will definitely release their players if they don't want to be caught in sanctions. But there is no certainty who the players will be released. Aubameyang will not be released because he was bought from Arsenal by Xavi Hernandez. Frenkie De Jong has the opportunity to be released to Chelsea because Barcelona are still holding out a deal with Manchester United for the De Jong process.
And Chelsea will be better and stronger if they manage to bring De Jong into his current team with a wiser deal than Barcelona. I'm also still waiting for it to happen because there are still a lot of rumors and news surrounding De Jong about this. For Manchester United I think it is better to look for other players than to wait for clarity from Barcelona for De Jong.

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August 11, 2022, 10:34:02 AM
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Chelsea can finish up the signing of Frenkie de Jong for 80 million euros reportedly. Barcelona are indeed desperate about fixing their wage condition now. They wouldn't be willing to lose one of their important players normally but it looks like there is nothing else to do about it. They are hoping some of their players to take a wage cut but I don't think all of those players would be okay for that. Selling de Jong might be a solution for them now.
Imo, Barcelona have always wanted to sell Frankie De Jong, but they are yet to do that because Frankie doesn't want to move to Manchester United (the club that is interested), and Frankie is owed quite a lot of money by Barcelona, all of these made things complicated, the reason why there's been quite a lot of uncertainties surrounding Frankie and if he will stay in Barcelona or leave.

Having said that, with Chelsea now in the picture, Frankie might prolly be interested in moving to Chelsea, they are in the Champions League and they are a much better team than Manchester United right now, the problem now could be Frankie's owed wages. I don't know for how long Barcelona can continue to hope their players take wage cuts, yet they keep buying more.

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August 11, 2022, 10:54:40 AM
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Barcelona will definitely release their players if they don't want to be caught in sanctions. But there is no certainty who the players will be released. Aubameyang will not be released because he was bought from Arsenal by Xavi Hernandez. Frenkie De Jong has the opportunity to be released to Chelsea because Barcelona are still holding out a deal with Manchester United for the De Jong process.
And Chelsea will be better and stronger if they manage to bring De Jong into his current team with a wiser deal than Barcelona. I'm also still waiting for it to happen because there are still a lot of rumors and news surrounding De Jong about this. For Manchester United I think it is better to look for other players than to wait for clarity from Barcelona for De Jong.
I think without De Jong, Chelsea's midfield is already very solid under Jorginho and Kante's control. But if they manage to buy Frenkie De Jong it will make Chelsea stronger. Their chances are bigger than other clubs.
Chelsea must focus on attackers, because that is the position that is now in the spotlight. The centre-forward should be the main target for not relying enough on Sterling and Havertz considering there is some competition played by Chelsea.
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August 11, 2022, 11:28:08 AM
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I think without De Jong, Chelsea's midfield is already very solid under Jorginho and Kante's control. But if they manage to buy Frenkie De Jong it will make Chelsea stronger. Their chances are bigger than other clubs.
Chelsea must focus on attackers, because that is the position that is now in the spotlight. The centre-forward should be the main target for not relying enough on Sterling and Havertz considering there is some competition played by Chelsea.
looks like the news i saw on twitter Sky sports premier league which was tweeted about 4 hours ago where chelsea almost reached an agreement with barcelona in the transfer of de jong. Chelsea sent a pretty fantastic offer to Barcelona because it was reported that they would pay Barcelona debt for De Jong, this might be approved by the Barcelona management. we will wait for further news, hopefully the long-standing polemic of de jong can soon reach a meeting point.

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August 11, 2022, 11:32:00 AM
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Chelsea can finish up the signing of Frenkie de Jong for 80 million euros reportedly. Barcelona are indeed desperate about fixing their wage condition now. They wouldn't be willing to lose one of their important players normally but it looks like there is nothing else to do about it. They are hoping some of their players to take a wage cut but I don't think all of those players would be okay for that. Selling de Jong might be a solution for them now.

This would be the best solution for Barcelona,this would clearly fix they wages issue. They need to sell some of their players for big money and they got a chance with De Jong . They should do it as fast as possible for this kind of money,they honestly wont get a better price then this for him

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