Bitcoin Forum
March 19, 2024, 02:10:42 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 26.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they strongly believe that the creator of this topic is a scammer. (Login to see the detailed trust ratings.) While the bitcointalk.org administration does not verify such claims, you should proceed with extreme caution.
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 [46] 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 »
  Print  
Author Topic: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB  (Read 251683 times)
-ck
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 4046
Merit: 1622


Ruu \o/


View Profile WWW
June 08, 2013, 11:22:00 AM
 #901

Not quite, there is no module requirement if you are mining with cgminer 3.2.1+ as it uses direct usb communication and will unload that module you just recommended.
Oh, thanks. Is there a reason for using direct USB communication? More efficient?
Yes, to bypass one layer between cgminer and the device, and give us more control over it. It has allowed us to shave a lot of CPU off by doing so. It is unfortunately a lot more work, and keeps revealing to us interesting hardware limitations that the drivers paper over, but that is often the case that the better solution takes more effort.

Developer/maintainer for cgminer, ckpool/ckproxy, and the -ck kernel
2% Fee Solo mining at solo.ckpool.org
-ck
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
Henchman24
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 378
Merit: 250


View Profile
June 08, 2013, 03:39:26 PM
 #902

Not quite, there is no module requirement if you are mining with cgminer 3.2.1+ as it uses direct usb communication and will unload that module you just recommended.
Oh, thanks. Is there a reason for using direct USB communication? More efficient?
Yes, to bypass one layer between cgminer and the device, and give us more control over it. It has allowed us to shave a lot of CPU off by doing so. It is unfortunately a lot more work, and keeps revealing to us interesting hardware limitations that the drivers paper over, but that is often the case that the better solution takes more effort.

Hotplug is sweet!  It worked perfectly on the first try.  Thanks again, ckolivas and kano!!

SoggyLettuce
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 238
Merit: 100



View Profile
June 09, 2013, 02:04:22 PM
 #903

Would this hub work in the 4 port version? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005NGQWL2/
elasticband
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1036
Merit: 1000


Nighty Night Don't Let The Trolls Bite Nom Nom Nom


View Profile
June 09, 2013, 02:06:07 PM
 #904

no the design of the hub could not fit 4 USB's, look at some of the pictures of how they are set up and how much space is needed
elasticband
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1036
Merit: 1000


Nighty Night Don't Let The Trolls Bite Nom Nom Nom


View Profile
June 09, 2013, 02:07:51 PM
 #905

the 4 port slim could probably take 3 sticks, the other 4 port you should could probably only take 2.
SoggyLettuce
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 238
Merit: 100



View Profile
June 09, 2013, 02:08:51 PM
 #906

Alright thanks...I think I'm only getting 2 anyways
HowGudAmI
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 294
Merit: 250


BTC --> ??? --> PROFIT


View Profile
June 09, 2013, 09:20:03 PM
 #907

It is a shame these are not a little cheaper, If I could get a ROI in 3 months I would do it in a heartbeat, 6 months and I would consider it.

If my calcs are correct these things currently will generate 0.01BTC per day, so 199 days for payback excl power/hubs/hosts/group buy fees/difficulty rises.

Smiley
Boxman90
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 518
Merit: 500


View Profile
June 09, 2013, 11:28:51 PM
 #908

Taking into account the skyrocketing difficulty increase, these things won't even break even after a year of continuous mining.

Why are we buying these again?

LTC: LKKy4eDWyVtSrQAJy7Qmmz61RaFY91D9yC   BTC: 18fzdnCkuUNthCD8hM36UBGopFa9ij78gG
erk
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 826
Merit: 500



View Profile
June 09, 2013, 11:40:23 PM
Last edit: June 09, 2013, 11:58:58 PM by erk
 #909

Taking into account the skyrocketing difficulty increase, these things won't even break even after a year of continuous mining.

Why are we buying these again?

I asked the same question, ASICMINER claim to have sold 4,000 units, that's, right 4,000 x .3GH/s = 1,200GH/s

I just laughed. That's 8,000BTC wasted, you realize how much hashing power you could get from Avalon or BFL for that money? Had you bought 20 x 66GH/s Avalon boxes for 75BTC each and set up a community farm, you would be hashing more than the entire network of Block Erupters, and saved yourself around 5,500BTC. I can't believe that so many people have been sucked in by what is clearly the ASIC ripoff of all time!


turtle83
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 322
Merit: 250


Supersonic


View Profile WWW
June 09, 2013, 11:52:43 PM
 #910

Taking into account the skyrocketing difficulty increase, these things won't even break even after a year of continuous mining.

Why are we buying these again?

I asked the same question, ASICMINER claim to have sold 4,000 units, that right 4,000 x .3MH/s = 1,200GH/s

I just laughed. That's 8,000BTC wasted, you realize how much hashing power you could get from Avalon or BFL for that money? Had you bought 20 x 66GH/s Avalon boxes for 75BTC each and set up a community farm, you would be hashing more than the entire network of Block Erupters, and saved yourself around 5,500BTC. I can't believe that so many people have been sucked in by what is clearly the ASIC ripoff of all time!




Captain Hindsight to the rescue - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqkI691dxNg

yxt
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3528
Merit: 1116



View Profile
June 10, 2013, 12:02:17 AM
 #911

From BFL? *lol* ask the guys preorders @ BFL liars a year ago

BTCKano Pool██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██
██
██
██
██ ██ ██
██ ██ ██
██ ██ ██
██ ██ ██
██ ██ ██
██ ██ ██
██ ██ ██
██ ██ ██
██ ██ ██
   ██
   ██
   ██
   ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
   ██
   ██
   ██
   ██
erk
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 826
Merit: 500



View Profile
June 10, 2013, 12:07:16 AM
Last edit: June 10, 2013, 12:28:55 AM by erk
 #912

From BFL? *lol* ask the guys preorders @ BFL liars a year ago

At least they are now receiving superior value product than Block Erupters that will actually give them a positive ROI.

BFL in a day shipped more of their entry level 5 GH/s units, with a total hashing power than the entire 4,000 Block Erupters can do combined.
yxt
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3528
Merit: 1116



View Profile
June 10, 2013, 12:13:43 AM
 #913

sure sure... they ship 400 a week.... in 14 days... go and tell that to the Marines!

BTCKano Pool██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██
██
██
██
██ ██ ██
██ ██ ██
██ ██ ██
██ ██ ██
██ ██ ██
██ ██ ██
██ ██ ██
██ ██ ██
██ ██ ██
   ██
   ██
   ██
   ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
   ██
   ██
   ██
   ██
roy7
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 434
Merit: 250


View Profile
June 10, 2013, 12:34:26 AM
 #914

Taking into account the skyrocketing difficulty increase, these things won't even break even after a year of continuous mining.

Why are we buying these again?

Fun.
freshzive
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 447
Merit: 250


View Profile
June 10, 2013, 02:07:31 AM
 #915

what pool is everyone using with this?

getting high rejects (~10%) on eligius using cgminer 3.1.1.....

like this:

ICA 1:                | 330.0M/331.5Mh/s | A:12016 R:1202 HW:238 U: 3.78/m

CommanderVenus
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 258
Merit: 250


Zoinks! Its the Miner Miner Forty-Niner!


View Profile
June 10, 2013, 02:10:00 AM
 #916

what pool is everyone using with this?

getting high rejects (~10%) on eligius using cgminer 3.1.1.....

like this:

ICA 1:                | 330.0M/331.5Mh/s | A:12016 R:1202 HW:238 U: 3.78/m
Try using CGminer 3.2.1.
This threads got a good amount of information that could help you too.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=220905.0

BTC: 1VenusEubcLC9W7ykckHbdEzo5MVhPmCb
NXT: 15182624396855992605
BTQ: 14b2QFPwFtBC3tcRW9F61aaRXP2ns3fh1m
freshzive
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 447
Merit: 250


View Profile
June 10, 2013, 02:16:20 AM
 #917

Try using CGminer 3.2.1.
This threads got a good amount of information that could help you too.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=220905.0

Yeah, I get this error when I try to run in cgminer 3.2 or 3.2.1:

cgminer: -S: unrecognized option

I built using --enable-icarus

-ck
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 4046
Merit: 1622


Ruu \o/


View Profile WWW
June 10, 2013, 02:59:08 AM
 #918

Try using CGminer 3.2.1.
This threads got a good amount of information that could help you too.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=220905.0

Yeah, I get this error when I try to run in cgminer 3.2 or 3.2.1:

cgminer: -S: unrecognized option

I built using --enable-icarus
Because as the release notes say, and numerous other forum posts, you no longer use -S

Developer/maintainer for cgminer, ckpool/ckproxy, and the -ck kernel
2% Fee Solo mining at solo.ckpool.org
-ck
joae1975
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 752
Merit: 500



View Profile
June 10, 2013, 03:12:24 AM
 #919

Taking into account the skyrocketing difficulty increase, these things won't even break even after a year of continuous mining.

Why are we buying these again?

I asked the same question, ASICMINER claim to have sold 4,000 units, that's, right 4,000 x .3GH/s = 1,200GH/s

I just laughed. That's 8,000BTC wasted, you realize how much hashing power you could get from Avalon or BFL for that money? Had you bought 20 x 66GH/s Avalon boxes for 75BTC each and set up a community farm, you would be hashing more than the entire network of Block Erupters, and saved yourself around 5,500BTC. I can't believe that so many people have been sucked in by what is clearly the ASIC ripoff of all time!



That would be a valid argument if BFL was shipping on demand.  To have a product in hand ASAP is appealing.

1PewuG8KZJUPK3CtvAkAs1Uw42rQgUv5Jk
erk
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 826
Merit: 500



View Profile
June 10, 2013, 03:24:06 AM
 #920

Taking into account the skyrocketing difficulty increase, these things won't even break even after a year of continuous mining.

Why are we buying these again?

I asked the same question, ASICMINER claim to have sold 4,000 units, that's, right 4,000 x .3GH/s = 1,200GH/s

I just laughed. That's 8,000BTC wasted, you realize how much hashing power you could get from Avalon or BFL for that money? Had you bought 20 x 66GH/s Avalon boxes for 75BTC each and set up a community farm, you would be hashing more than the entire network of Block Erupters, and saved yourself around 5,500BTC. I can't believe that so many people have been sucked in by what is clearly the ASIC ripoff of all time!



That would be a valid argument if BFL was shipping on demand.  To have a product in hand ASAP is appealing.
Be thankful that they are finally shipping some units in volume!
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 [46] 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!