Any word on amd vega hash rates?

[STT]

The main issue for Vega 56 is getting some at the proper RRP price and not higher.   I wouldnt buy them at the higher price when you can get nvidia or any other card cheaper, it is a good card overall though.  Ive seen a few places with ok prices, sometimes you need to sell the games that come with it maybe.

I'm trying to build an 8 gpu single rig with vega 56 cards.

While waiting for the cards to arrive, do you think I will be able to enable HBCC on all of them ? Is it only a memory issue or a driver problem?

 
Im not sure but HBCC sometimes needs 3gb so for 8 cards that might be 24gb and thats not going to work.   I dont think all 8 would be possible, hbcc for 4 is what I remember someone got to work

[kyogi14]

Thanks to all for the opinions.
I've only 3 empty GPU slots at the moment. So I think Vega56 is quite good. I should to get experience in Red GPUs.

Vega doesn’t play well with other cards right now..   Pretty much any action on any gpu in the system will cause hbcc to drop.  The only way I was able to get hbcc stable was to remove Nvidia cards and run a max of 4 vega only.  I’m hoping my other 4 slots can be used for more gpus if Blockchain drivers get updated.

[rednoW]

Thanks to all for the opinions.
I've only 3 empty GPU slots at the moment. So I think Vega56 is quite good. I should to get experience in Red GPUs.

Vega doesn’t play well with other cards right now..   Pretty much any action on any gpu in the system will cause hbcc to drop.  The only way I was able to get hbcc stable was to remove Nvidia cards and run a max of 4 vega only.  I’m hoping my other 4 slots can be used for more gpus if Blockchain drivers get updated.

I'm running 3 Vegas with 5 nvidia gpus in 1 rig without any problem. It was speed drop but I solved it by removing nVidia-related tasks from Windows Scheduler.

[kyogi14]

@rednow what miner are you using for the Nvidia cards?  I was using ethminer and it kept resetting the hbcc every so often. What scheduled tasks were there to disable?  Would love to get more cards up in this rig.  Also do you use afterburner to tune the Nvidia cards?

[raz0er]

@rednow what miner are you using for the Nvidia cards?  I was using ethminer and it kept resetting the hbcc every so often. What scheduled tasks were there to disable?  Would love to get more cards up in this rig.  Also do you use afterburner to tune the Nvidia cards?

He will probably tell you to pay him .3 ETH for any advice...

[rednoW]

@rednow what miner are you using for the Nvidia cards?  I was using ethminer and it kept resetting the hbcc every so often. What scheduled tasks were there to disable?  Would love to get more cards up in this rig.  Also do you use afterburner to tune the Nvidia cards?

I'm using different ccminer versions as well as EWBF Zec miner. Scheduled tasks - there were 2 nvidia tasks scheduled to run once a day. After disabling it - speed is constant high now.

[Marvell2]

Im not sure, 2 RX 570 its about 230W and this is 55 Mhs, what about Vega 56 ? 39-43Mhs and what about power consumpiton?

Vega 56 can do 44mhs eth @ 150watt (1220/1100@820mV) or 1940h/s XMR@150watt (1408/1100@875mV) or 43mhs eth + 200mhs lbry @ 210watt (1220/1100@820mV)
2 well tuned polaris cards are still better then 1 vega56 for ETH but vega is better in xmr and dual-mining

how do you change the mv on polaris, i can get to 1100 mem on vega 56 but cant
change the voltage to allow dual mining

Did you mean Vega, not polaris?
You can downvolt Vega with softpowerplay reg mod if you have aug23 blockchain drivers or with regular tools (overdriventool + afterburner) if you run recent amd drivers

polaris cards have never had issues with downvolting,
with my vegas in after burner with the lastest. blockchain drivers the voltage slider is disabled like it is for nvidia cards
even after i enable voltage overclocking and underclocking like i have always done on m polaris rigs

why would have to do a registry hack to undervolt ? Never had to do that on my polaris rigs on the AR 270 asus board

[bmoonshine]

I just want to thank everyone for being so helpful in this thread. Special thanks to Hellae for his reddit guide and Oldcomer's hardware for his YouTube guide. Just set up my two rigs today running 8 Vega 64s. I am at a combined 15300-15600 hashrate (pool just shows random numbers but calculated total hashes over 7 hours turn out around these numbers).

Running fine for 7 hours. Each system is consuming around 700watts from the wall, one has a killawatt and the other the Corsair RM1000i with Corsair link showing 700W and 93% efficiency on 230v. Hashrate seems a tad low but I had to leave shortly after putting them to work so I had no time to tinker.

One has a running monitor plugged in but I started the second one through TeamViewer (had disconnected the monitor while off) and seems to be running as well as the one with the monitor, maybe HDMI dummies aren't required after all!. I still ordered two and I am waiting for them. Both have onboard gpus as primary. I got two i3-4170s just because I might use them for other projects in the future (AES-NI support). 1000watt PSUS seem just fine so my advice is buy them if they are cheap instead of 1300+.

Have fun, I am!

would love to know how you are managing to run 8 Vegas on 1 x PSU. an only 1 Corsair RM1000 even..   Most of my rigs with 7/8 Vegas 56 are suffering from PSU issues and I have to power them with 2 x 1200/1000 or 1200/1600 etc etc.

sure you can tweak the cards to lower voltage but i think the initial bump at the start makes them a tad bit unstable.

Cheers

I think he is running 2 rigs with 4 vegas each Otherwise hasrate would be a lot weaker than just a tad low (975h/s). Also 700W seems like a normal consumption for 4 vegas, even a bit high if aiming for 150w per card.

So im running 2 vega 64s and 2 vega 56 flashed to 64 bios.
Did soft power play registry.
  Im getting about 7700-7900. but some times it seems to drop to around 7600.
Other problem being my total power at the wall ATM is 940W seems high to me.
my sysem idle is around 50-60w.
Any ideal on howto bring the power down to the 130w even 150w each?

[R0mi]

I'm running 3 Vegas with 5 nvidia gpus in 1 rig without any problem. It was speed drop but I solved it by removing nVidia-related tasks from Windows Scheduler.
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I have a question for anyone else who is trying to get 3 or more Vegas working on a MSI X370 Gaming Pro Ryzen board.  Two Vegas -- not a problem; mines fine.  Add a third Vega card and you can't boot.  After reinstalling Windows, adding RAM, switching RAM, DDU cycles, driver installs, and so forth, I found that if one goes into the Registry folder for each card and disables crossfire (set value to "0" instead of "1"), I can then boot with 3 Vegas.  They appear just fine in Device Manager, I can reboot, etc., and three Vegas show up in Device Driver.  But when I try to use Radeon Settings, or OverDriveNTool, or GPU-Z the computer freezes, them reboots, etc. 

To be clear, you can't get to AMD Radeon settings to disable crossfire once you install a third card because the computer freezes on startup.  You can do it in the Registry settings after you get two cards working, then you install the third.

If you figured a workaround, please PM me. I think this is specific to the MSI X370.  Yes, it has the latest bios, yes I have 16GB RAM, yes I set the Paging file to over 30GB.

Also, not a great card for a dual PSU type of setup.  If you power the Vega from one PSU but remove the riser from the motherboard during troubleshooting/rebooting, the card will just heat up and the fan will never spin.  It gets scary hot.  Maybe a reason not to flash to the 56 with the 64 bios...

I think it is crazy the the beta blockchain August 23 driver for miners by *default* sets Crossfire to active.  Why?

Separate question:  if I can control Crossfire settings from the Registry, why can't we control the HBCC settings and values for each card from the Registry?  I hate the bloated, slow, adware Radeon Settings app.  I only need to do four things using Radeon Settings:  reset HBCC and set the value/hit apply; change memory, fan speed, and temp to manual from automatic.  It is easier to control everything else from a saved profile in OverDriveNTools.  Anybody figured out how to control other Vega settings from the Registry?

[Shnikes101]

So im running 2 vega 64s and 2 vega 56 flashed to 64 bios.
Did soft power play registry.
  Im getting about 7700-7900. but some times it seems to drop to around 7600.
Other problem being my total power at the wall ATM is 940W seems high to me.
my sysem idle is around 50-60w.
Any ideal on howto bring the power down to the 130w even 150w each?

Sounds like your powerplay edit didn't set properly or at least the voltages. Make sure your "memory" volts are set equal to your core

[Clandestinemuse]

hey, I have 6 vega 64's and a 56 since their launch date, been travelling round the world for btc events and my dad has been going nuts restarting the rigs every hour...

wattman settings I can never get to save after reset - so my usb watchdogs are useless

Is there somthing Im missing?

It seems in this thread people say no more then 4 vegas, so tried taking 3 out (rig was 4 1070s and 6 vega 64 1 vega 56), still extremely unstable, asrock 110 board...

Should I take the 7 vegas and put them 4 and 3 in dedicated rigs? I have some extra mobos..

Any idea how to get wattman settings to hard save?

Cheers

[Zakyn]

hey, I have 6 vega 64's and a 56 since their launch date, been travelling round the world for btc events and my dad has been going nuts restarting the rigs every hour...

wattman settings I can never get to save after reset - so my usb watchdogs are useless

Is there somthing Im missing?

It seems in this thread people say no more then 4 vegas, so tried taking 3 out (rig was 4 1070s and 6 vega 64 1 vega 56), still extremely unstable, asrock 110 board...

Should I take the 7 vegas and put them 4 and 3 in dedicated rigs? I have some extra mobos..

Any idea how to get wattman settings to hard save?

Cheers

This is my experience running on some rigs

Windows 10 (no Nix yet though I will switch soon)
Asrock 110
7 Vega / 1-2 Nvidia 1060

PSU is your stumbling block
You will need to have enough juice for the Vegas. Power draw from the wall will show way lesser usage but I have not have anything that is stable besides having an overkill in terms of PSU.
Stable rigs are running
2 x FSP 1200watt / 1x 1600watt (chinese OEM brandS) + 1x FSP 1200 watt / 1 x FSP 1200 + 1 x Corsair 1000watt

YMMV

[bmoonshine]

So im running 2 vega 64s and 2 vega 56 flashed to 64 bios.
Did soft power play registry.
  Im getting about 7700-7900. but some times it seems to drop to around 7600.
Other problem being my total power at the wall ATM is 940W seems high to me.
my sysem idle is around 50-60w.
Any ideal on howto bring the power down to the 130w even 150w each?

Sounds like your powerplay edit didn't set properly or at least the voltages. Make sure your "memory" volts are set equal to your core

the Powerplay i did was for 1100 mem with 900v
and core is 1012 to 1407 with a 905v
does that seem right?

seems like one of my cards the powerplay isnt sticking not sure why, i have 5 folders in the registry and i check to see what ones say vega and applyed to all those.
how do i default back to stock if i wanted to?
and what if i by mistake apply it to my igpu?

[Trade_BTC]

Any chance this is working yet in Linux. Just built another Vega rig and this windows pos keeps blue screening when running the cryptonote algo and yes I've tried adding more power, less frequency, and a bunch more variations. The drivers amd makes are such garbage I may have to return these week old Vega 56's. I just don't have time to be tinkering with such trash software like this.

I got another rig running just fine btw with the same settings a few people posted in this thread. I'm using identical hardware so we can rule those all out too.

[rednoW]

the Powerplay i did was for 1100 mem with 900v
and core is 1012 to 1407 with a 905v
does that seem right?

seems like one of my cards the powerplay isnt sticking not sure why, i have 5 folders in the registry and i check to see what ones say vega and applyed to all those.
how do i default back to stock if i wanted to?
and what if i by mistake apply it to my igpu?

It depends on what reg hack you are using.
If you didn't change gpu clocks in P1-P5 states then for Vega64 bios 1408mhz is a "magic" number you should set.
You can easily test if your reg patch applied correctly with OverdriveNtool. Just check "greyed" voltages in P1-P5 power states.
They should have values that you put in registry.
By the way, recent OverdriveNtool 1.21 can do softpowerplaymod for you in very convenient way. Just run it as admin and find this option by clicking to upper left corner (to the icon)  

[aknataga]

Locks like only units were able to launch 4+ card in one rig and this rigs are working and not failed. Very strange that too much description about 150W per card, but all use 2x1200WATT psu for 4x cards.
Or I'm wrong ?

[bytiges]

Any chance this is working yet in Linux. Just built another Vega rig and this windows pos keeps blue screening when running the cryptonote algo and yes I've tried adding more power, less frequency, and a bunch more variations. The drivers amd makes are such garbage I may have to return these week old Vega 56's. I just don't have time to be tinkering with such trash software like this.

I got another rig running just fine btw with the same settings a few people posted in this thread. I'm using identical hardware so we can rule those all out too.

Here's some info on getting it running under linux, headless for compute workloads only (what we need):
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=radeon-vega-setup&num=1

[bytiges]

Any chance this is working yet in Linux. Just built another Vega rig and this windows pos keeps blue screening when running the cryptonote algo and yes I've tried adding more power, less frequency, and a bunch more variations. The drivers amd makes are such garbage I may have to return these week old Vega 56's. I just don't have time to be tinkering with such trash software like this.

I got another rig running just fine btw with the same settings a few people posted in this thread. I'm using identical hardware so we can rule those all out too.

Here's some info on getting it running under linux, headless for compute workloads only (what we need):
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=radeon-vega-setup&num=1

And here some benchmarks.
Granted, they are no mining, but nevertheless interesting

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rx-vega-linux1&num=1

[donmgray33]

Best results so far for a V56: 1950-1975h/s @ 130-135w

1. Use stock bios

2. Use the custom power play table: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AsrdFd4FVQj_hU0lNZqgJaGeLffI

3. In Wattman, set voltages to manual, fan speed to at least 3000 (this might not be necessary), and OC mem to 975.

4. Use intensities 2016 and 1736

If this got you your highest hash/watts.. feel welcome to donate to my XMR address: 4JUdGzvrMFDWrUUwY3toJATSeNwjn54LkCnKBPRzDuhzi5vSepHfUckJNxRL2gjkNrSqtCoRUrEDAgR wsQvVCjZbRzX7Z35FpEg29UmnBp

foundational work credit goes to hellae but I optimized it a bit more than his latest recommended setup: https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining/comments/74hjqn/monero_and_vega_the_definitive_guide/?sort=new

thank for this

[Zakyn]

Locks like only units were able to launch 4+ card in one rig and this rigs are working and not failed. Very strange that too much description about 150W per card, but all use 2x1200WATT psu for 4x cards.
Or I'm wrong ?

I'm running 2 x 1200 Watt for 8 cards. Not 4.

I have underclock the cards but they were not stable in any case. The only variable I changed to make them stable was giving a lot of headroom for the Vega to spike in terms of PSU