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November 10, 2017, 05:39:22 PM
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Has anyone done comparison of hash rates between the different brands of Vega 56s (or 64s)?

I have a Gigabyte 56 and have a Sapphire and PowerColor on the way.  I'm hoping there is little to no difference but I will find out.

I love the fact that I don't have to do BIOS flashing with the Vegas, that is such a hassle with the RX cards.  

Vega 56s themselves are no big difference but for my msi and gigabyte, they can only take 1050 registry edit. Sapphire will go with 1100. And if you want to save power usage, you will need to flash to vega 64 bios.

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November 10, 2017, 05:58:44 PM
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Getting ready for the big rush on equihash sunday. Anyone have optimal overclock settings for vega 56? Im seeing about 415 sols on blockchain driver.
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November 10, 2017, 06:02:03 PM
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I hadn't originally planned on putting this out there, but some other asshole decided to charge a fee for this info. Fuck that guy. Here's a fix for reduced hashrate and a method for running 4+ Vega at full speed while mining XMR.

Basic Users:

1. Use the Blockchain drivers.
2. Open up your device manager.
3. Open up the "Display Adapters" dropdown.
4. Right click on one of your Vega's.
5. Disable it.
6. Wait a few seconds.
7. Right click on the Vega you just disabled.
8. Re-enable it.
9. Repeat steps 4-8 for the rest of your cards.
10. Enjoy mining at full speed with as many Vega as you damn well please. Probably.

Advanced Users:

The previously described process is a bit of a pain in the ass. Let's automate it.

New Procedure

1. Get your hands on the Windows Device Console (Devcon.exe). This will let you disable/enable devices from console.
2. Create a batch file in the same folder as devcon.exe with the following lines in it:
Code:
cd %~dp0
timeout /t 5
devcon.exe disable "PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F"
timeout /t 5
devcon.exe enable "PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F"
3. This will selectively disable/enable all the Vega cards you currently have in your system. Thanks to bytiges for noting that killing all the display adapters might not be a good idea for those using iGPU.
4. Run the batch file as an administrator at login, or whenever you lose hashrate on your cards. Enjoy never having to toggle the HBCC switch again.

Outdated Procedure

1. Get your hands on the Windows Device Console (Devcon.exe). This will let you disable/enable devices from console.
2. Run the command devcon.exe FindAll * to generate a list of all the currently attached devices and their hardware IDs.
3. Search your newly generated list for "Radeon RX Vega." You should find something like this:
Code:
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F&SUBSYS_0B361002&REV_C3\6&3AAC35E3&0&000000E7 : Radeon RX Vega
4. The part to the left of the colon is what you need. Shocking, I know. Put that thing into a batch file that looks something like this:
Code:
@echo on
cd C:\Users\Mythic\Desktop\Startup
timeout /t 5
devcon.exe disable PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F&SUBSYS_0B361002&REV_C3\6&3AAC35E3&0&000000E7
timeout /t 15
devcon.exe enable PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F&SUBSYS_0B361002&REV_C3\6&3AAC35E3&0&000000E7
timeout /t 15
OverdriveNTool.exe -p0Vega0 -p1Vega1 -p2Vega2 -p3Vega3 -p4Vega4 -p5Vega5 -p6Vega6
timeout /t 10
cd C:\Users\Mythic\Desktop\xmr-stak-amd
xmr-stak-amd.exe
5. Run your batch file at startup as an administrator. Enjoy never having to toggle the HBCC switch again.

FAQ:

Q: So, Mythic, how exactly does this enable HBCC on cards 5-7?

A: It doesn't! HBCC Does nothing to improve your hashrate! Turns out the drivers are just shit and are bugged when Windows first boots up. Who would have guessed?

Q: But Mythic, does that mean I don't need 16 GB of ram to run my cards at full speed?

A: Correct! 4 GB of ram is completely sufficient!

Q: If I wanted to donate some pizza money to the broke ass college student that typed this up, how would I do so?

A: You ask the best questions! I doubt I'll get anything before more well known people/websites copy everything I just said (with no credit, obviously), but here are some addresses just in case.
          XMR: 42e8AWjcirkBDzCNnSjPxeGJeht71kFfWcoxxCWsxe8HZqP29NruDsxcvVSjbKw17AUDepopK7ZYCUn mRvcGS9kBT5XWhMQ
          ETH: 0x74Ed2CA095Dd3aE98D88d5ca1dDb77E752152938


This is awesome! Thank you!

Quick question though: Is there any need to increase page file size anymore? Thanks!
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November 10, 2017, 08:05:53 PM
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Getting ready for the big rush on equihash sunday. Anyone have optimal overclock settings for vega 56? Im seeing about 415 sols on blockchain driver.

What are you using for a Bitcoin Gold wallet?  It's going to be some number of days before the exchanges and hardware wallets like Nano support BTG so in the meantime I will need some kind of web or software wallet.
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November 10, 2017, 08:44:39 PM
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Getting ready for the big rush on equihash sunday. Anyone have optimal overclock settings for vega 56? Im seeing about 415 sols on blockchain driver.

What are you using for a Bitcoin Gold wallet?  It's going to be some number of days before the exchanges and hardware wallets like Nano support BTG so in the meantime I will need some kind of web or software wallet.

I don't actually want any btc gold, figure its gonna be a pump and dump. Just going to be mining this though nicehash
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November 10, 2017, 09:01:33 PM
Last edit: November 10, 2017, 09:32:16 PM by tf2addict
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Getting ready for the big rush on equihash sunday. Anyone have optimal overclock settings for vega 56? Im seeing about 415 sols on blockchain driver.

What are you using for a Bitcoin Gold wallet?  It's going to be some number of days before the exchanges and hardware wallets like Nano support BTG so in the meantime I will need some kind of web or software wallet.

I don't actually want any btc gold, figure its gonna be a pump and dump. Just going to be mining this though nicehash

I don't really care what the price of BTG is, all I need to know is how much I make mining it.  If the price drops I will get more BTG per day and vice versa, just like mining most other coins.  Unless the price is going up I will be dumping my BTG as soon as I get each payout.

Hopefully Equihash mining on NiceHash will pop like CryptoNight did a week ago when Electroneum started.
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November 10, 2017, 09:04:40 PM
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Getting ready for the big rush on equihash sunday. Anyone have optimal overclock settings for vega 56? Im seeing about 415 sols on blockchain driver.

What are you using for a Bitcoin Gold wallet?  It's going to be some number of days before the exchanges and hardware wallets like Nano support BTG so in the meantime I will need some kind of web or software wallet.
I think you should look for some exchangers that support for Bitcoingold like poloniex.

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November 10, 2017, 09:11:23 PM
Last edit: November 11, 2017, 01:53:33 AM by tf2addict
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Getting ready for the big rush on equihash sunday. Anyone have optimal overclock settings for vega 56? Im seeing about 415 sols on blockchain driver.

What are you using for a Bitcoin Gold wallet?  It's going to be some number of days before the exchanges and hardware wallets like Nano support BTG so in the meantime I will need some kind of web or software wallet.
I think you should look for some exchangers that support for Bitcoingold like poloniex.

I will but like I said it's probably going to be some days before they activate their wallets.  I want to start mining immediately upon launch.  I just installed Coinomi on my Galaxy, that will work for now.
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November 10, 2017, 09:14:35 PM
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Does anyone knows the reason of the different hashrates per card in xmr-stak (same settings obv. 1408/1100)?
I have 3 vega 56@64 rigs. Usually I get 1900-1950/card, but there is one which gets only 1750. 1750 is like a stock or a little bit lower hashrate.
I've tried to reinstall driver, tried different HBM clocks 1100,1050, 1000, different voltages and still the same. I've tried disable-enable many times.

Any ideas what to do?
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November 11, 2017, 01:19:51 AM
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can anyone tell me where in the registry can I find the PP Table modded values?
I have 5 cards modded with same settings and one which is different, but don't remember which one it was. Guess at some place the values for all 5 should be different from its, but I can't really find it ...

Any ideas how to identify it? I want to do some tweaks on it, but don't really want to mess with the other cards ...
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November 11, 2017, 02:49:12 AM
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can anyone tell me where in the registry can I find the PP Table modded values?
I have 5 cards modded with same settings and one which is different, but don't remember which one it was. Guess at some place the values for all 5 should be different from its, but I can't really find it ...

Any ideas how to identify it? I want to do some tweaks on it, but don't really want to mess with the other cards ...

The path is in the top of the reg file.
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November 11, 2017, 03:14:16 AM
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Ive been playing around with mine...nothing crazy to announce yet. Here are some tidbits for you guys

-Claymore's and a few other miners have incompatible kernels with the new GNC, so those don't even work yet
-Genoil's works, does about 35-40 with some basic overclocks
-Once i start tuning timings on this thing and over volt the memory should be able to hit 40+ on genoils generic kernel
-Im working with AMD for some driver optimizations for mining specific kernels (specifically on the linux side since currently its underperforming horrible on their new compute stack). AMD finally woke up and is addressing their mining customers (they could ignore us for so long when 90% of their profits are from us recently).
-Once these are done, and Claymore updates his miner for Vega NCU we should be seeing 50+

Verdict is still out on whether this can compete on price/hash and watts/hash on polaris, but if it can do 50+ it will still win out on density cost(i.e. achieve 160+% hash using the same hardware).

50 for eth. at 200 watts   would be nice
1000 for zec at 200 watts  would be nice


40 for eth would be a fail
as would 850 for zec.

for now  I will be waiting for some  info on zec rates

I sold off my  1070's   looking to go all 1080 ti or   part 1080 ti and  part  amd vega.


What would you mine with TIs?

BitcoinZ, VertCoin, and LBRY at hot at the moment.   Zencash is always a good 24/7 coin to mine, just set it and forget it.

Can't wait to see what happens with Bitcoin Gold starting Sunday.
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November 11, 2017, 01:11:41 PM
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BitcoinZ, VertCoin, and LBRY at hot at the moment.   Zencash is always a good 24/7 coin to mine, just set it and forget it.

Can't wait to see what happens with Bitcoin Gold starting Sunday.
What settings you're using with your cards ? I get 440 sol/s each with the same settings used for cryptonight, however it's not stable at all. Max runtime is 5minutes, using claymore's miner.

For the time it runs, I pull about the power from the wall as crypto. Blockchain drivers. I'd appreciate if you share your settings.

Thanks.

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November 11, 2017, 02:12:20 PM
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Does anyone knows the reason of the different hashrates per card in xmr-stak (same settings obv. 1408/1100)?
I have 3 vega 56@64 rigs. Usually I get 1900-1950/card, but there is one which gets only 1750. 1750 is like a stock or a little bit lower hashrate.
I've tried to reinstall driver, tried different HBM clocks 1100,1050, 1000, different voltages and still the same. I've tried disable-enable many times.

Any ideas what to do?

I have the same problem.

Asus z270-p
16Gb
3 V56 @64 1407/1100 @900
120 ssd
Win 10 64
blockchain 23 Aug
xmr-stak

One vega shows only 1770 h / s

Have you found a solution?
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November 11, 2017, 02:12:32 PM
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BitcoinZ, VertCoin, and LBRY at hot at the moment.   Zencash is always a good 24/7 coin to mine, just set it and forget it.

Can't wait to see what happens with Bitcoin Gold starting Sunday.
What settings you're using with your cards ? I get 440 sol/s each with the same settings used for cryptonight, however it's not stable at all. Max runtime is 5minutes, using claymore's miner.

For the time it runs, I pull about the power from the wall as crypto. Blockchain drivers. I'd appreciate if you share your settings.

Thanks.


Hi guys,
Is there someone who find just normal and secure wallet for bitcoin gold?
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November 11, 2017, 04:00:12 PM
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anyone see a grey screen and crash when running more than 2 gpu on cast?

on a single gpu it works fine, but when i add more grey artifcats then crash,tried two separate motherboards
it only does thiswith the aug23 blockchain drivers , the ronbin hood ones dont crash but 1500 hs vs 1950

I hit a similar problem, but it was the same with XMR-Stak or Cast.  I have a MSI X370 and could not get past three GPUs without a blue screen/crash.  Changed risers, cables, Vega cards, PCIe slots, settings, on and on.

Finally solved it:  Used DDU to strip everything out.  Went directly to Microsoft's site and downloaded the fall creators update (takes a while).  That loaded the non-blockchain drivers and for the first time I could mine with 5 Vegas on that motherboard (but slow speeds).  Uninstalled the newest drivers, reinstalled blockchain drivers.  It's all good now.

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November 11, 2017, 04:18:28 PM
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anyone see a grey screen and crash when running more than 2 gpu on cast?

on a single gpu it works fine, but when i add more grey artifcats then crash,tried two separate motherboards
it only does thiswith the aug23 blockchain drivers , the ronbin hood ones dont crash but 1500 hs vs 1950

I hit a similar problem, but it was the same with XMR-Stak or Cast.  I have a MSI X370 and could not get past three GPUs without a blue screen/crash.  Changed risers, cables, Vega cards, PCIe slots, settings, on and on.

Finally solved it:  Used DDU to strip everything out.  Went directly to Microsoft's site and downloaded the fall creators update (takes a while).  That loaded the non-blockchain drivers and for the first time I could mine with 5 Vegas on that motherboard (but slow speeds).  Uninstalled the newest drivers, reinstalled blockchain drivers.  It's all good now.
hmm i tried this several times, I have a window image that alrrady contsins the fall creators update included and did this with a fresh install still the same deal, Ill try it again i guess , thanks
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November 11, 2017, 04:50:07 PM
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Does anyone knows the reason of the different hashrates per card in xmr-stak (same settings obv. 1408/1100)?
I have 3 vega 56@64 rigs. Usually I get 1900-1950/card, but there is one which gets only 1750. 1750 is like a stock or a little bit lower hashrate.
I've tried to reinstall driver, tried different HBM clocks 1100,1050, 1000, different voltages and still the same. I've tried disable-enable many times.

Any ideas what to do?

I have the same problem.

Asus z270-p
16Gb
3 V56 @64 1407/1100 @900
120 ssd
Win 10 64
blockchain 23 Aug
xmr-stak

One vega shows only 1770 h / s

Have you found a solution?


Not yet, but when i will have some time, i'll try to solve this misery.
I have an idea.. maybe..
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November 11, 2017, 10:36:08 PM
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anyone see a grey screen and crash when running more than 2 gpu on cast?

on a single gpu it works fine, but when i add more grey artifcats then crash,tried two separate motherboards
it only does thiswith the aug23 blockchain drivers , the ronbin hood ones dont crash but 1500 hs vs 1950

I hit a similar problem, but it was the same with XMR-Stak or Cast.  I have a MSI X370 and could not get past three GPUs without a blue screen/crash.  Changed risers, cables, Vega cards, PCIe slots, settings, on and on.

Finally solved it:  Used DDU to strip everything out.  Went directly to Microsoft's site and downloaded the fall creators update (takes a while).  That loaded the non-blockchain drivers and for the first time I could mine with 5 Vegas on that motherboard (but slow speeds).  Uninstalled the newest drivers, reinstalled blockchain drivers.  It's all good now.
hmm i tried this several times, I have a window image that alrrady contsins the fall creators update included and did this with a fresh install still the same deal, Ill try it again i guess , thanks

Have  you tried newest amd in compute mode? With rx 4xx/5xx there is no need of blockchain driver anymore.
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November 12, 2017, 01:13:41 AM
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Hope Windows 10 Fall Creator's Update will allow 13 Vegas on an H110 motherboard.  That is going to be sweet.
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