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September 25, 2017, 06:37:25 PM
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I've been mining hush for a while now (probably 2 months-ish), both at hushpool.cloud and at madmining.club, and I've noticed my payouts are consistently around 25 or 30% less than what I'm seeing on whattomine.com.

I have about 1k Sol/s, and according to whattomine I should be getting 2.2/day and instead I got 1.7. When the difficulty was lower and I was supposed to be getting 3.5 or 4, I was getting 2.5 to 3, etc.

When I was mining on hushpool.cloud I would look at the stats and the pool luck was always at -30% over the previous 4 days (or 7 or whatever the number it was using for the average)

At madmining I don't see the actual luck, just the calculated luck (what it should be getting) but I assume it is also getting bad luck.

What gives? Is this what you would expect to see happening if someone was doing a 51% attack? I understand bad luck can happen for any given day or even a period of days on a fluke, but consistently over this long a time frame? Seems like something is up.

What to mine is a point in time estimate based off a moving average I believe. Hush having a small network hashrate can have large swings in difficulty throughout the day. A large miner or private pool points to hush and say has 1MSol/s (roughly 25-50% network hashrate) for 20 or so blocks then moves to another algo while we are left having to deal with a high difficulty for a few hours.

This can skew earning a lot... This happens to other coins but if you look at zcash 350MSol/s 1MSol/s miner will not make a huge impact on the network like it will to hush with 3.hMsol/s

So, while yes whattomine cannot give a good estimate you should be close when you look at 7+ days

A good gauge is to look at shares per block, with our current hashrate I would expect most to be under 100k shares https://madmining.club/blocks you can see we had 3 well over that. This is a combination of luck and swings in difficulty (which you can see here http://myhush.network/stats.html )

Thanks for the response. That could explain what's happening, but is there any way to tell? That link you provided only shows a blank page for me, with tabs at the top.

But if you or someone has a server with all the stats (total diff, hash rate per pool, and blocks found) over a period of a few weeks or a month or whatever, you should be able to check exactly the actual vs expected luck for each pool right? I'm not sure how trivial that would be but I assume there must be tools that could parse and analyze that data for the relevant stats.

Try disabling add blocker, I've also had some people say they couldn't view the site on mobile... I'm looking into it.

As far as pool stats, we could once we are aware off all the pools/ all pools modify their stratum code to include a unique hex value when mining a block.  Not all pools do this, and some private pools intentionally do not

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September 25, 2017, 07:21:31 PM
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I tried disabling ad blocker and also enabling pop-ups for your site but no change. I am using chromium v60.0. I have my location and camera set to blocked, javascript allowed, images to 'show all', and everything else set to allow or ask first.

Would it be possible to just check actual vs expected luck on the pools that you can and ignore the pools that you can't for now?
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September 26, 2017, 02:21:02 AM
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I tried disabling ad blocker and also enabling pop-ups for your site but no change. I am using chromium v60.0. I have my location and camera set to blocked, javascript allowed, images to 'show all', and everything else set to allow or ask first.

Strange... I'll have to dig a little deeper and see what the issues could be

Would it be possible to just check actual vs expected luck on the pools that you can and ignore the pools that you can't for now?

I will work on adding this to my pool, currently I am just doing
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network hashrate / pool hashrate * block time
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polling stats from other pools and calculating is a bit more work, yet worthwhile. I've added it to the list for myhush.network

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September 26, 2017, 03:43:35 AM
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Wow awesome! I appreciate the effort and responses. Having a dev like this makes me even more confident in this project.
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September 26, 2017, 05:23:50 AM
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Hi!

Where can I find HUSH blockchain to download?

Thanks!
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September 26, 2017, 01:33:44 PM
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Hi!

Where can I find HUSH blockchain to download?

Thanks!

The wallet will download it for you, we do not provide a "pre-seed" version

you can use https://myhush.github.io/config-generator/ to build a hush.conf that includes some fast nodes

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Go to http://myhush.network and pick a few nodes near you and add them to your hush.conf

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September 26, 2017, 05:19:58 PM
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September 26, 2017, 05:38:48 PM
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OK, thanks,
got 8 connections now and synced 47%  already!
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September 26, 2017, 08:05:41 PM
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wow didn't expect such a high difficulty in a short time
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September 27, 2017, 04:15:05 AM
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wow didn't expect such a high difficulty in a short time

Yeah I noticed earlier that total hashrate was over 7 MSol/s. Maybe what is happening is every so often some huge farm is jumping in, mining a bunch of blocks, doing some double spending, and leaving after the difficulty is driven up.
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September 27, 2017, 06:53:03 AM
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wow didn't expect such a high difficulty in a short time

Yeah I noticed earlier that total hashrate was over 7 MSol/s. Maybe what is happening is every so often some huge farm is jumping in, mining a bunch of blocks, doing some double spending, and leaving after the difficulty is driven up.

Sound logic up until the point of the double spend.
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September 27, 2017, 05:58:54 PM
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That should be easy with that much hash rate shouldn't it? With such a farm trying to maximize profit I don't see why they wouldn't do that too.
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September 27, 2017, 11:12:55 PM
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That should be easy with that much hash rate shouldn't it? With such a farm trying to maximize profit I don't see why they wouldn't do that too.

You do realize Supernova has the majority of the hashrate, right?
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September 28, 2017, 05:19:24 AM
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Have mac gui wallet ?


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September 28, 2017, 08:27:32 PM
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That should be easy with that much hash rate shouldn't it? With such a farm trying to maximize profit I don't see why they wouldn't do that too.

You do realize Supernova has the majority of the hashrate, right?

Hadn't checked in a while, but I assume that's still the case, yeah. Doesn't mean anything if total hashrate is 3.25M and someone steps in with 3.75M to make 7M total. Anyway I'm just sayin I think madbuda's scenario seems likely after seeing that, and threw the double spending in on top as a possibility, but I also have a tendency to wear tinfoil hats too ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. In my experience if someone can do something to benefit themselves and get away with it they will 98% of the time, regardless of ethicality.
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September 28, 2017, 08:28:16 PM
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Hey,

Could anyone explain why the end user would opt in to use HUSH, instead of whatsapp which also has end to end encryption??

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September 28, 2017, 10:07:36 PM
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Hey,

Could anyone explain why the end user would opt in to use HUSH, instead of whatsapp which also has end to end encryption??

To ALL who may be interested in learning the difference.

Zero Knowledge Proofs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sy6nb72gCk

EB116 – Eli Ben-Sasson: Zero Knowledge Proofs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GTRfZ0m7M8

ZKP for Children
http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~mkowalcz/628.pdf

A Primer on Zero Knowledge Protocols -Gerado I. Simari
http://cs.uns.edu.ar/~gis/publications/zkp-simari2002.pdf

https://myhush.org
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September 28, 2017, 11:51:07 PM
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Hey,

Could anyone explain why the end user would opt in to use HUSH, instead of whatsapp which also has end to end encryption??

Maybe because it's not owned by a big company that gives sh*t about privacy + supports big files upload ? Not sure though Smiley
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September 29, 2017, 10:51:06 AM
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Hi
Do you plan use securitynodes in future?

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Hi
Do you plan use securitynodes in future?

I think extortion nodes are not planned for Hush Smiley
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