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^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.
Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively. As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread. As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that  Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong In what has taken you to write all that boredom, I sent a bitcon cash transaction and it has arrived before you finished it  was it confirmed with 3 confirmations which is usually the minimum anywhere accepts because I can assure you I could send a confirmed LN transaction in the time you typed the first word Then send it and show a screenshot  |
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David48l
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January 21, 2018, 01:27:22 AM |
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^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.
Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively. As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread. As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong In what has taken you to write all that boredom, I sent a bitcon cash transaction and it has arrived before you finished it was it confirmed with 3 confirmations which is usually the minimum anywhere accepts because I can assure you I could send a confirmed LN transaction in the time you typed the first word with bitcoin cash you can send instantly with 0 confirmations I do not know if you know what are 0 confirmations since in btc it is absolutely impossible now |
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January 21, 2018, 01:30:56 AM |
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^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.
Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively. As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread. As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong In what has taken you to write all that boredom, I sent a bitcon cash transaction and it has arrived before you finished it was it confirmed with 3 confirmations which is usually the minimum anywhere accepts because I can assure you I could send a confirmed LN transaction in the time you typed the first word with bitcoin cash you can send instantly with 0 confirmations I do not know if you know what are 0 confirmations since in btc it is absolutely impossible now You can send 0 fee yes but unless the recipient accepts 0 fee then 0 fee is useless |
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January 21, 2018, 01:31:40 AM |
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^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.
Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively. As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread. As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong In what has taken you to write all that boredom, I sent a bitcon cash transaction and it has arrived before you finished it was it confirmed with 3 confirmations which is usually the minimum anywhere accepts because I can assure you I could send a confirmed LN transaction in the time you typed the first word Anyway what do you do here explaining the complications and cumbersome implementations of lightning in this forum? Here we do not need lightning, bitcoin cash works with 0 confirmations I do not understand their behavior, unless it is a CORE TROLL And bitcoin cash is working NOW, everything else segwit and lightning is just smoke, have three years with the same story, promises and more promises |
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David48l
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January 21, 2018, 01:38:02 AM |
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^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.
Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively. As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread. As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong In what has taken you to write all that boredom, I sent a bitcon cash transaction and it has arrived before you finished it was it confirmed with 3 confirmations which is usually the minimum anywhere accepts because I can assure you I could send a confirmed LN transaction in the time you typed the first word with bitcoin cash you can send instantly with 0 confirmations I do not know if you know what are 0 confirmations since in btc it is absolutely impossible now You can send 0 fee yes but unless the recipient accepts 0 fee then 0 fee is useless Lightning will understand enough, but otherwise it is quite clumsy I will explain how the 0 confirmations works, it is quite simple. Nobody has to accept or not, it's a fact, sending in bitcoin cash has total security that your tx will be confirmed in the next block no matter what happens. Also the tx are again immutable, can not be returned or sent to another recipient by changing the rate, something that introduced Core and has been put to normality in bitcon cash And if you buy a Ferrari I guess the seller would not mind waiting 10min to be confirmed Core introduced the change of tx rate to create a problem and offer us your paypal solution Core limito el tamaño de bloque para crear un problea y ofrecernos su solucion paypal etc, etc |
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Bitcoin cash is very promising. The characteristics of fast speed and low fee are enough to shake the status of BTC in the future. I estimate that its price will reach 0.5BTC in 2018. |
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January 21, 2018, 01:43:32 AM |
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OWZ1337
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January 21, 2018, 01:46:06 AM |
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Bitcoin cash is very promising. The characteristics of fast speed and low fee are enough to shake the status of BTC in the future. I estimate that its price will reach 0.5BTC in 2018. Lightning Network will bring wayyy lower fees than this is antiquated version ~ BeeCash will be great again after the rebranding  weee |
I am not a Financial Analyst, Investment Broker, Financial Adviser, Crypto-Guru or any sort of professional that would be deemed trustworthy! weee™ |
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tekmobile
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January 21, 2018, 01:48:39 AM |
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^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.
Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively. As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread. As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong In what has taken you to write all that boredom, I sent a bitcon cash transaction and it has arrived before you finished it was it confirmed with 3 confirmations which is usually the minimum anywhere accepts because I can assure you I could send a confirmed LN transaction in the time you typed the first word with bitcoin cash you can send instantly with 0 confirmations I do not know if you know what are 0 confirmations since in btc it is absolutely impossible now You can send 0 fee yes but unless the recipient accepts 0 fee then 0 fee is useless And if you buy a Ferrari I guess the seller would not mind waiting 10min to be confirmed If you're buying a ferrari you won't be concerned about having to pay a $5 fee What about in store retail LN: quick scan thank you come again and off you go BCH : There is seating available over there while we wait for confirmation we apologize but it's store policy |
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January 21, 2018, 01:48:55 AM |
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It seems that tekmobile is capable of piloting a space shuttle and landing on Mars (lightning), but does not know how to start the car and get it out of the garage (bch).
We do not need a space shuttle to go to work
Thanks tekmobile but you can go to the bcore forum to deceive them of the kindness of lightning, here we are for issues about bitcoin cash
I do not know if he realized the title of the thread
It is not more than a TROLL PAID BY CORE
just write in this forum to talk about lightning and cheat about bch
fomo y fud, fomo y fud, does not do anything else, I imagine that they should give him good bananas in return
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David48l
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January 21, 2018, 01:50:19 AM |
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Bitcoin cash is very promising. The characteristics of fast speed and low fee are enough to shake the status of BTC in the future. I estimate that its price will reach 0.5BTC in 2018. Lightning Network will bring wayyy lower fees than this is antiquated version ~ BeeCash will be great again after the rebranding weee tekmobile has called his friends to help him haha When I start to attack you and leave you without arguments, call your co-workers haha |
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January 21, 2018, 01:50:58 AM |
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actually ya i changed my mind after seeing Andreas Antonopolous seal of approval ~ BeeCash trying to fragment the real bitcoin is not forgivable imo :\ n00bs<=== |
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January 21, 2018, 01:52:21 AM |
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Bitcoin cash is very promising. The characteristics of fast speed and low fee are enough to shake the status of BTC in the future. I estimate that its price will reach 0.5BTC in 2018. Lightning Network will bring wayyy lower fees than this is antiquated version ~ BeeCash will be great again after the rebranding weee will bring, soon, they are implementing, promises, promises, promises, in bitcoin cash the low rates are already working, and paying 2 cents already seems low enough, here you do not need paypal lightning |
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January 21, 2018, 01:53:11 AM |
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Bitcoin cash is very promising. The characteristics of fast speed and low fee are enough to shake the status of BTC in the future. I estimate that its price will reach 0.5BTC in 2018. Lightning Network will bring wayyy lower fees than this is antiquated version ~ BeeCash will be great again after the rebranding weee tekmobile has called his friends to help him haha When I start to attack you and leave you without arguments, call your co-workers haha experts agree BeeCash is not bitcoin ===> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-nKuInDq6g |
I am not a Financial Analyst, Investment Broker, Financial Adviser, Crypto-Guru or any sort of professional that would be deemed trustworthy! weee™ |
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January 21, 2018, 01:53:53 AM |
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Bitcoin cash is very promising. The characteristics of fast speed and low fee are enough to shake the status of BTC in the future. I estimate that its price will reach 0.5BTC in 2018. Lightning Network will bring wayyy lower fees than this is antiquated version ~ BeeCash will be great again after the rebranding weee will bring, soon, they are implementing, promises, promises, promises, in bitcoin cash the low rates are already working, and paying 2 cents already seems low enough, here you do not need paypal lightning watch this and stfu haha===> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-nKuInDq6g |
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David48l
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January 21, 2018, 01:54:54 AM |
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^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.
Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively. As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread. As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong In what has taken you to write all that boredom, I sent a bitcon cash transaction and it has arrived before you finished it was it confirmed with 3 confirmations which is usually the minimum anywhere accepts because I can assure you I could send a confirmed LN transaction in the time you typed the first word with bitcoin cash you can send instantly with 0 confirmations I do not know if you know what are 0 confirmations since in btc it is absolutely impossible now You can send 0 fee yes but unless the recipient accepts 0 fee then 0 fee is useless And if you buy a Ferrari I guess the seller would not mind waiting 10min to be confirmed If you're buying a ferrari you won't be concerned about having to pay a $5 fee What about in store retail LN: quick scan thank you come again and off you go BCH : There is seating available over there while we wait for confirmation we apologize but it's store policy jaja pero que mentiroso! bch tarifa 0 confirmacion, no lo entienda si no quiere, se lo explique bastante sencillo si compra un ferrari con btc pagara 25$ en tarifas, que supongo que no le importara, pero tardará dias en confirmarse jaja https://blockchain.info/es/unconfirmed-transactionsjaja |
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January 21, 2018, 01:57:43 AM |
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Bitcoin cash is very promising. The characteristics of fast speed and low fee are enough to shake the status of BTC in the future. I estimate that its price will reach 0.5BTC in 2018. Lightning Network will bring wayyy lower fees than this is antiquated version ~ BeeCash will be great again after the rebranding weee tekmobile has called his friends to help him haha When I start to attack you and leave you without arguments, call your co-workers haha experts agree BeeCash is not bitcoin ===> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-nKuInDq6ganother troll co-worker of tekmobile |
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January 21, 2018, 01:59:45 AM |
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when more core trolls are in this forum attacking Bitcon cash quieter I remain to know that bch is doing things right
First laugh ...
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And then they lose ...
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January 21, 2018, 02:03:01 AM |
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Bitcoin Cash0 confirmations 10 minutes 0.02cent rate bitcoin core 3-6 confirmations 30 - 60 min $ 15 fee But calm ray is coming
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January 21, 2018, 02:06:06 AM |
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It's so funny to see so many people attacking bch in this forum
They will not see me talking about Bitcoin Cash in the bt core forum, I just do not care at all about bitcon core, I have more interesting things to do than waste my time criticizing btcore in your own forum
I would find it quite ridiculous and stupid
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