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August 26, 2017, 10:57:54 PM |
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Right... so no service to US Residents... they do not say how we are going to get our coins... if they are even going to give them to us...
I am quite sure that they will be refunding everything as far as they can - meaning, if you just withdraw your funds, you'll be fine. If they end up preventing US citizens from loging in, your best shot will be to make use of a VPN, or have a trusted (non US) forum escrow take out the funds for you. Them not offering services anymore to US citizens definitely doesn't mean you can kiss your funds goodbye. Most of the people there never even verified themselves, so in the end, there is no way to prove where you come from since IP's can be 'faked' due to proxies and VPN's, etc. If they really end up coming back, you should be getting your funds out without much problems, or at least, what's left of your funds, more precisely said. This is my thinking as well. We'll see as the admins continue to answer more questions and as we approach the supposed launch date. I think there's a decent chance they will have people simply confirm that they are not US residents. They already said that the first tier of verification doesn't require any information. That just leaves the question of IP address. The only example I can think of is Bitfinex. When they relaunched last year, as long as you said you weren't a US resident, there were no IP restrictions. They haven't been super forthright answering questions about US users at this point (probably for plausible deniability). US users with lots of funds on the exchange... that's a bit tricky. In that case, it's probably best to look into selling the account to someone who is willing and able to verify. |
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August 27, 2017, 12:46:52 PM |
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what is happening at russian thread of update 7? 154 pages?
What are they discussing so much about?
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August 27, 2017, 12:54:36 PM |
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what is happening at russian thread of update 7? 154 pages?
What are they discussing so much about?
Flaming... |
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August 27, 2017, 01:24:22 PM
Last edit: August 27, 2017, 01:55:38 PM by Scheede |
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August 27, 2017, 03:56:57 PM |
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BTC-e owners are OK and they are making money. LOL
If the haircut is 55%, then I think the admins are making good money, and setting up a retirement fund for themselves. Interesting find with Exmo. I suppose it's not conclusive, but it's close enough. One thing I don't get.... why run BTC-e, and Exmo, and xBTCe, and...? 55% is suspciously clean.. i.e just a bit over half. Admins mush be keeping a war chest of funds. |
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August 27, 2017, 04:17:53 PM |
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August 27, 2017, 05:14:33 PM |
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As there were not any BTC-e hackers since they added ETH, we can assume this entire letter is BS |
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August 27, 2017, 05:49:18 PM |
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As there were not any BTC-e hackers since they added ETH, we can assume this entire letter is BS
Dear Erk, many thanks for your warm words... if so, probably I choose the wrong word (when it was something different than a "hack". Alright, found out, BTC-e was taken down by FBI !? That makes the topic even more interesting to me. Step by step... the official BTC-e-wallet was this one: Was the official BTC-e - Wallet this one? https://etherscan.io/address/0x91337a300e0361bddb2e377dd4e88ccb7796663dor? I might re-formulate my OP to make it "taken down by FBI" instead of "hacked", what obv. is BS ... |
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August 27, 2017, 07:12:38 PM |
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Your 28 ETH from MyEtherWallet, was your wallet hacked or something? It seems that whoever was in control of your funds sent them to BTC-e as a customer deposit. BTC-e appears to be in control of their ETH wallets (despite the FBI seizure), and they are supposedly re-launching in 4 days. But unfortunately, I don't think that will help your situation. The hacker probably just has an anonymous account on BTC-e. |
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August 27, 2017, 07:42:21 PM |
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Your 28 ETH from MyEtherWallet, was your wallet hacked or something? It seems that whoever was in control of your funds sent them to BTC-e as a customer deposit. BTC-e appears to be in control of their ETH wallets (despite the FBI seizure), and they are supposedly re-launching in 4 days. But unfortunately, I don't think that will help your situation. The hacker probably just has an anonymous account on BTC-e. Ahhh... good ankle, now I understand I think. So the wallet my Asset(s) ended up is the wallet of BTC-e wherefrom user xy will be credited with the amount of ETH in his (probably) anonymous) BTC-e - account?! right this way? If so: it won´t make any sense to write to BTC-e - support, does it? |
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August 27, 2017, 07:49:12 PM |
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Your 28 ETH from MyEtherWallet, was your wallet hacked or something? It seems that whoever was in control of your funds sent them to BTC-e as a customer deposit.
BTC-e appears to be in control of their ETH wallets (despite the FBI seizure), and they are supposedly re-launching in 4 days. But unfortunately, I don't think that will help your situation. The hacker probably just has an anonymous account on BTC-e.
Ahhh... good ankle, now I understand I think. So the wallet my Asset(s) ended up is the wallet of BTC-e wherefrom user xy will be credited with the amount of ETH in his (probably) anonymous) BTC-e - account?! right this way? If so: it won´t make any sense to write to BTC-e - support, does it? Yes, the user's account would have been credited the ETH. For all we know, it was immediately withdrawn from the exchange, too. I think some users in this situation might use BTC-e to launder hacked funds, since accounts were anonymous and withdrawals instant. It won't make any sense to write BTC-e support. Not only do they have bigger problems, but to them, you cannot prove that the funds in question belonged to you. Even if you can prove control of the private key, any number of scenarios could explain that: you could have sold them, or multiple people could have rightful access to that key. It's possible that you even sent the ETH to BTC-e and exchanged for another currency and withdrew.  |
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August 27, 2017, 07:57:00 PM |
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Your 28 ETH from MyEtherWallet, was your wallet hacked or something? It seems that whoever was in control of your funds sent them to BTC-e as a customer deposit.
BTC-e appears to be in control of their ETH wallets (despite the FBI seizure), and they are supposedly re-launching in 4 days. But unfortunately, I don't think that will help your situation. The hacker probably just has an anonymous account on BTC-e.
Ahhh... good ankle, now I understand I think. So the wallet my Asset(s) ended up is the wallet of BTC-e wherefrom user xy will be credited with the amount of ETH in his (probably) anonymous) BTC-e - account?! right this way? If so: it won´t make any sense to write to BTC-e - support, does it? Yes, the user's account would have been credited the ETH. For all we know, it was immediately withdrawn from the exchange, too. I think some users in this situation might use BTC-e to launder hacked funds, since accounts were anonymous and withdrawals instant. It won't make any sense to write BTC-e support. Not only do they have bigger problems, but to them, you cannot prove that the funds in question belonged to you. Even if you can prove control of the private key, any number of scenarios could explain that: you could have sold them, or multiple people could have rightful access to that key. It's possible that you even sent the ETH to BTC-e and exchanged for another currency and withdrew. Ufff...unfortunately all you said sounds reasonable... so probably I have to bury my last Satoshis of hope... thanks for enlighten me |
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August 28, 2017, 06:20:29 AM |
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1 September is coming closer! Hopefully we will hear updates on 31 Aug
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August 28, 2017, 07:16:33 AM |
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1 September is coming closer! Hopefully we will hear updates on 31 Aug
I am interested to see how things will be (or better said, what our balances will look like) when we get to log in for the very first time after what's happened. I made a few trades (BTC to fiat) like less than five minutes before they went down, which makes me wondering whether or not these trades will still be registered, or perhaps reversed (I hope for the latter). No matter they are dealing with the situation, I will not make use of them again. Too much has happened to be trading freely on that exchange, because with how things are, nothing prevents them from being taken down again. That being said, I think their Russian following will gladly return to that exchange again - only time will tell whether or not they have made a mistake. |
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August 28, 2017, 07:53:32 AM |
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1 September is coming closer! Hopefully we will hear updates on 31 Aug
I am interested to see how things will be (or better said, what our balances will look like) when we get to log in for the very first time after what's happened. I made a few trades (BTC to fiat) like less than five minutes before they went down, which makes me wondering whether or not these trades will still be registered, or perhaps reversed (I hope for the latter). No matter they are dealing with the situation, I will not make use of them again. Too much has happened to be trading freely on that exchange, because with how things are, nothing prevents them from being taken down again. That being said, I think their Russian following will gladly return to that exchange again - only time will tell whether or not they have made a mistake. It's not clear how often they dumped data from the live servers. If the trades were made less than five minutes before service went down, then I doubt they were on the backed-up database, but it's anyone's guess. It makes sense to withdraw whatever crypto you can. But large account holders who don't want to verify will probably be forced to provide liquidity for lack of other options, and from what I can tell, their Russian-speaking traders will largely continue using their service. After the Bitfinex experience last year, I'd be willing to take a gamble trading the token markets to grind out some profits without incurring additional risk. |
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August 28, 2017, 12:37:10 PM |
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If they are back and enable withdrawals, I'll use my 55% to buy their tokens and wait for redemption.
ps: only if the token is 1/3 of its face value. I would be very happy to buy if it is below 0.33/usd
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August 28, 2017, 12:59:14 PM |
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If they are back and enable withdrawals, I'll use my 55% to buy their tokens and wait for redemption.
ps: only if the token is 1/3 of its face value. I would be very happy to buy if it is below 0.33/usd
Based on similar schemes on other exchanges, what is a reasonable expectation for these tokens? 1 token= 1 dollar, or higher, or lower? |
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August 28, 2017, 01:22:36 PM |
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for those who are believing in shit exchangers like BTC-e and in their honesty, that they will give your the funds back or other sci-fi scenarios, Exmo.com= BTC-e.com LOL
The BTC-e owners are running other exchangers without problems.
Exmo.com is one of them.
EUROSTYLE ADVISOR LTD registered btc-e.nz which belongs BTC-e.com
EUROSTYLE ADVISOR LTD registered Exmo.com
btc-e.top redirects to exmo.com now. a while ago, btc-e.top was redirected to btc-e.com
in short, exmo.com = btc-e
so, dear fanatics who sustain BTC-e and their shit stories about a possible come back, stop dreaming and stop shilling. you are doing a big disservice to this e-currency called BTC.
BTC-e owners are OK and they are making money. LOL
Respectfully.... Fuck off |
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August 28, 2017, 08:19:54 PM |
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for those who are believing in shit exchangers like BTC-e and in their honesty, that they will give your the funds back or other sci-fi scenarios, Exmo.com= BTC-e.com LOL
The BTC-e owners are running other exchangers without problems.
Exmo.com is one of them.
EUROSTYLE ADVISOR LTD registered btc-e.nz which belongs BTC-e.com
EUROSTYLE ADVISOR LTD registered Exmo.com
btc-e.top redirects to exmo.com now. a while ago, btc-e.top was redirected to btc-e.com
in short, exmo.com = btc-e
so, dear fanatics who sustain BTC-e and their shit stories about a possible come back, stop dreaming and stop shilling. you are doing a big disservice to this e-currency called BTC.
BTC-e owners are OK and they are making money. LOL
Respectfully.... Fuck off another sheep....  you don't want to see the real facts and that's why you deserve to lose all your funds.  |
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August 28, 2017, 08:48:34 PM |
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If they are back and enable withdrawals, I'll use my 55% to buy their tokens and wait for redemption.
ps: only if the token is 1/3 of its face value. I would be very happy to buy if it is below 0.33/usd
Based on similar schemes on other exchanges, what is a reasonable expectation for these tokens? 1 token= 1 dollar, or higher, or lower? Depends on the exchange. BFX tokens traded at .20-.70 for months before they were redeemed by the exchange. In that case, the tokens were all denominated in USD and redeemed for 1 USD each by Bitfinex. BTER had a similar scheme with CNY. It seems that the plan here is to issue tokens for each currency. That doesn't seem like an ideal plan because crypto debts could be harder to pay over time if the value continues to rise, and also because it will divide up all the liquidity into different markets. |
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