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March 17, 2017, 09:43:01 AM
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When is NF lowered?

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March 18, 2017, 04:03:44 PM
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When is NF lowered?

In the past.

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May 22, 2017, 03:13:53 PM
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Hello all,

Since Senj appears to be very busy, is there anyone out there that can linux or unix build a Yacoin daemon by just running the makefile.linux-mingw or makefile.ubuntu or makefile.unix or makefile.bsd
having already built the libraries needed (BerkeleyDB, OpenSSL, Boost) and levelDB for the 0.4.5... versions that Joe provided, and then the 0.4.8.x versions that I provided at
https://github.com/senadj/yacoin/pull/10
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https://github.com/senadj/yacoin/pull/9

I don't run linux/unix, only Windows, so I can't do the linux/unix builds.  I'm just trying to find out why the non-Windows code for the constructor in the class CdoSocket in the file price.cpp won't compile, especially in PR #10, since I think it should!?

With bitcoin doubling just this year and more and more interest in alternative currencies, it would be nice if we can get ours out there.  It is still the only one I know that has its own built in block explorer and also shows its own price!  That is what the changes I have done provide.  The code has been available since 2014!!  It is just that no one has been able to do the small amount of work needed to make it work on linux-unix, see above request.

We can change the Nfactor and other things too.

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June 04, 2017, 02:09:58 PM
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I think high N factor is and will be a problem for YAC network, as far as i know other scrypt-jane coins change to static N or POS. In aug.2017 N factor will be 19. Is hard to maintain a healthy network at higher N.




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June 11, 2017, 11:06:17 AM
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In aug.2017 N factor will be 19. Is hard to maintain a healthy network at higher N.

It'd be interesting to see what the incoming high core count CPUs can do with it.

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June 17, 2017, 06:19:36 PM
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I reduce and set fixed nFactor=15 in GPL (YAC clone) but YAC need coin swap and may be change to only PoS coin.

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June 20, 2017, 09:09:53 PM
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In aug.2017 N factor will be 19. Is hard to maintain a healthy network at higher N.

It'd be interesting to see what the incoming high core count CPUs can do with it.

It would also be interesting to see what they can do at NFactor 16

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June 21, 2017, 01:20:41 AM
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一个中国投资人的几点建议。

我是一个YAC的原始投资人之一,2013年5月曾以0.003BTC的价格买入YAC,目前持有约760K YACOIN。为了YAC的健康发展,我有几点建议:

1、整合YAC 钱包程序,加入POW挖矿功能。之前的钱包程序,连POS挖矿功能都没有,但加入POS功能之后,整个程序界面就好多和,适合新手了解它。
2、宣传。YAC作为一个CPU币,目前CPU挖矿效率已经高手GPU,这正是YAC的特点之一,就是要加大宣传,让更多的网友用普通电脑就能挖矿,提高YAC的知名度,等N值到19之后,会更有吸引力。同时也让YAC网络更加健康。
3、营销。中国市场是山寨币最火的市场之一,YAC的克隆币如YBC、ZCC等在中国BTC38上销售良好,但很遗憾,BTER下架之后,中国市场没有了。如果能有办法上中国某个交易平台,或者上P网,对YAC的发展将不可低估。特别是P网,下架 YACCOIN之后,正应该上YAC。

真希望YAC越来越好,走向光明,我将永远持有它。



EN:A few suggestions for Chinese investors.

I was one of the original investors of YAC, who bought YAC at 0.003BTC in May 2013 and currently holds about 760K YACOIN. For the healthy development of YAC, I have some suggestions:

1, integrated YAC wallet program, adding POW mining function. Before the wallet procedures, even the POS mining functions are not, but after adding the POS function, the whole program interface is much better, suitable for novice to understand it.
2, publicity. YAC as a CPU, the current CPU mining efficiency has been a master GPU, which is one of the characteristics of YAC, is to increase publicity, so that more users can use ordinary computers can be mine, improve the visibility of YAC, etc. N After the value of 19, will be more attractive. While also making the YAC network healthier.
3, marketing. China market is one of the hottest markets of the cottage, YAC clone coins such as YBC, ZCC and other sales in China BTC38 good, but unfortunately, BTER after the shelves, the Chinese market is gone. If there is a way to a trading platform in China, or on the P network, the development of YAC will not be underestimated. Especially the P network, after the shelves YACCOIN, should be on the YAC.

Really hope YAC getting better and better, to the light, I will always hold it.

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June 22, 2017, 05:01:51 AM
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一个中国投资人的几点建议。

我是一个YAC的原始投资人之一,2013年5月曾以0.003BTC的价格买入YAC,目前持有约760K YACOIN。为了YAC的健康发展,我有几点建议:

1、整合YAC 钱包程序,加入POW挖矿功能。之前的钱包程序,连POS挖矿功能都没有,但加入POS功能之后,整个程序界面就好多和,适合新手了解它。
2、宣传。YAC作为一个CPU币,目前CPU挖矿效率已经高手GPU,这正是YAC的特点之一,就是要加大宣传,让更多的网友用普通电脑就能挖矿,提高YAC的知名度,等N值到19之后,会更有吸引力。同时也让YAC网络更加健康。
3、营销。中国市场是山寨币最火的市场之一,YAC的克隆币如YBC、ZCC等在中国BTC38上销售良好,但很遗憾,BTER下架之后,中国市场没有了。如果能有办法上中国某个交易平台,或者上P网,对YAC的发展将不可低估。特别是P网,下架 YACCOIN之后,正应该上YAC。

真希望YAC越来越好,走向光明,我将永远持有它。



EN:A few suggestions for Chinese investors.

I was one of the original investors of YAC, who bought YAC at 0.003BTC in May 2013 and currently holds about 760K YACOIN. For the healthy development of YAC, I have some suggestions:

1, integrated YAC wallet program, adding POW mining function. Before the wallet procedures, even the POS mining functions are not, but after adding the POS function, the whole program interface is much better, suitable for novice to understand it.
2, publicity. YAC as a CPU, the current CPU mining efficiency has been a master GPU, which is one of the characteristics of YAC, is to increase publicity, so that more users can use ordinary computers can be mine, improve the visibility of YAC, etc. N After the value of 19, will be more attractive. While also making the YAC network healthier.
3, marketing. China market is one of the hottest markets of the cottage, YAC clone coins such as YBC, ZCC and other sales in China BTC38 good, but unfortunately, BTER after the shelves, the Chinese market is gone. If there is a way to a trading platform in China, or on the P network, the development of YAC will not be underestimated. Especially the P network, after the shelves YACCOIN, should be on the YAC.

Really hope YAC getting better and better, to the light, I will always hold it.

Here are a couple thoughts:

-The next NFactor change will have a huge effect of distancing YAC from the terrible mechanism that decreases block reward as difficulty increases. It will be interesting to see what happens to the hashrate.

-CPU mining is subject to botnet attacks. It isn't necessarily a selling point for the ordinary person. Unfortunately, the 'one cpu, one vote' per person dream was short-lived in Bitcoin's early days. With that said, GPU miners can still mine at higher NFactors, especially as higher VRAM is becoming the norm. Is there a preference to the ideal NFactor. It needs to be unique to other algos, and if there is to be a reversion, it should be done early. NFactor16 seems to be the most popular preference.

-Considering the reputation of the few exchanges YAC has been listed on in the past, I see another Chinese exchange as a secondary or tertiary concern. YoBit has had some delays in processing withdrawals, but the experience has been much better than other exchanges. I believe it is a friend of YAC, and it has supported YAC even through long droughts of low volume. It will be nice to see it benefit from increased volume. Other exchanges will follow when volume reaches a certain point--that is certain.

Volume and interest will pick up once the PoS-PoW issues (and other issues) are finally fixed. The goal is to make YACoin BETTER than Bitcoin, and eventually, it will be an actual, functioning currency--unlike what we are seeing now with BTC, ETH, and others...

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July 26, 2017, 11:14:14 AM
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Good to see some activity in the thread. Hi gents...
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August 09, 2017, 11:05:56 AM
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Since yesterday (aug . 8th), yacoin network is on nFactor 19 where each hash consumes 128MB of memory.
Next switch is after three years - in october 2020.
My CPU hashing speed has fallen from 6->2 hashes/second (per CPU thread).

I am waiting for new GPU platform so currently I am unable to test GPU mining speed.
Can any of you comment how are GPU cards doing (compared to nFactor 18)?

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August 20, 2017, 11:55:32 PM
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Any GPU miner crash after start with nFactor 19. Last fully stable is 15.

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August 24, 2017, 11:16:27 AM
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Any GPU miner crash after start with nFactor 19. Last fully stable is 15.

You seem to be right- at least for current nFactor:
I mostly get Hardware Errors on my GPUs. Rarely there is a accepted share, but with hashrates of 3Hash/s (on R7 240 4GB GPU), which equates performance of one modern CPU core.

Would it be possible to modify OpenCL code so that it would verify block hashes in parallel?
I presume if a GPU has 6 compute units and 2GB of memory it should be possible to do at least 6 parallel scrypt-jane block hashes (while one hash consumes 128MB of memory). The goal would be to offload CPU with chain validation.
I tried to dig into it, but it's a big bite for me.


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October 16, 2017, 04:26:38 AM
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Hello all,

Circumstances conspire sometimes in fortuitous ways.  See
http://cbt.lostabout.com which I just built.  It is an attempt to fill the void left by the closing of
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149479.msg22340996#msg22340996 which was the old
Building headless Bitcoin and Bitcoin-qt on Windows forum here on bitcointalk.org

It was closed I think in error, but that is for another place and time.  I will be 'holding forth' every 3rd Tuesday of the month with a meeting.  And I hope to make it virtual, live, and open.  The meeting spot came upon me coincidentally with the closing of the above forum, and so 'CBT' was born.  Let me know what you think?  I hope my first 'meeting' will go well?

BTW, there is good YAC code coming for all to use, it is just that when you think you've got all the bugs, you test it and a few more pop up.  Nothing major now, but as they say, 'we're close' Smiley

If you've been been running your YAC nodes, and you look at 'getpeerinfo' from time to time,  you should be seeing nodes with:
Code:
"subver" : "/Yacoin-WM:0.7.5/",
not 0.7.3,  that/those are nodes running the new s/w.  So there is hope...

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November 29, 2017, 07:50:03 PM
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Any updates on this?
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November 30, 2017, 12:53:09 PM
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I know it's silly, but YACoin has the highest market cap since march 2014.

Maybe we should grab the old 0.4.4 wallet and rebrand it as Bitcoin Something, it's the fad these days.

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December 02, 2017, 01:20:07 PM
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I know it's silly, but YACoin has the highest market cap since march 2014.

Maybe we should grab the old 0.4.4 wallet and rebrand it as Bitcoin Something, it's the fad these days.

A couple serious thoughts:

1) Even "dead" coins aren't bad investments compared to government fiat! The entire ecosystem is on a big uptrend now.

2) Even now, YAC is benefiting from a reasonable issuance model from an economic perspective. Many coins heavily favor early stakeholders to an unnecessarily large degree. YAC is still profitable to mine with many CPUs, and at <10% annualized inflation rate currently, there is never really a bad time for an investor to take a long position.

YAC is heavily influenced by the market activity. ZCCoin, which is the other scrypt-chacha coin at NFactor 19. I'm optimistic YAC will surpass it in the near future.

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December 02, 2017, 05:50:59 PM
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So how do I go about selling my 50k yac? I can't find it trading anywhere, no idea the price etc. Its been a few years Smiley. Is it worth digging out the old hard drive?
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December 03, 2017, 04:44:28 AM
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I think it's time for the dev and community behind Yacoin to launch yet another coin...

this time based on the cuckoo cycle:
https://blog.aeternity.com/q-a-at-reddit-with-john-tromp-inventor-of-the-cuckoo-cycle-mining-algorithm-c316119c07e9

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December 11, 2017, 07:10:45 AM
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There is unprecedented growth of interest in crypto. As more people enter the space, more and more people are looking for a coin they can actually mine without spending $ thousands on a loud ASIC or thousands on a GPU rig that gives off a ton of heat.

Despite worries of botnets, Intel i7s and AMD Ryzens are very profitable to mine on multiple coins. I guess the botnets can't keep up! This means a coin like YACoin is very appealing as it is one of the most profitable coins to mine with a CPU.

It's important to keep things in perspective. YACoin has survived a lot in terms of all kinds of attacks. It is looking very good relative to the 'nearby' competition. Great things are in store for YACoin. Almost every person who asks me about Bitcoin also asks about alternatives to Bitcoin. Many of those also ask me about coins to mine.

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