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but every single "3 PCI-E 16x slots" motherboard I've ever seen uses a 2-5-7 spacing which crams the last 2 cards too close together, instead of a SANE 1-4-7 spacing that would leave space for COOLING the middle card.

This is the problem I have at the moment. I bought a 3 * PCIE 16x board (two are SLI) and it has been sitting in the box for 2 months because I just know i can't line up my three EVGA BLACK 1080ti's in it.

After reading your post, I think I'll go this way;
* Source a 1070 (short length)
* Build the new mobo with 2 * 1080ti in SLI + 1070 mini - 1000W PSU
* Build a mining rig with a 1080ti, 1070 (full length) - 850W PSU
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but every single "3 PCI-E 16x slots" motherboard I've ever seen uses a 2-5-7 spacing which crams the last 2 cards too close together, instead of a SANE 1-4-7 spacing that would leave space for COOLING the middle card.

This is the problem I have at the moment. I bought a 3 * PCIE 16x board (two are SLI) and it has been sitting in the box for 2 months because I just know i can't line up my three EVGA BLACK 1080ti's in it.

After reading your post, I think I'll go this way;
* Source a 1070 (short length)
* Build the new mobo with 2 * 1080ti in SLI + 1070 mini - 1000W PSU
* Build a mining rig with a 1080ti, 1070 (full length) - 850W PSU


That is a plan that should work.

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September 07, 2017, 12:48:18 AM
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Out of Stock

He is in Mexico so I would guess he is buying at a different store.

He should buy that miner for the 700.

Yes im in cabo, bought it from amazon mexico, is on its way already.
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Out of Stock

He is in Mexico so I would guess he is buying at a different store.

He should buy that miner for the 700.

Yes im in cabo, bought it from amazon mexico, is on its way already.

Good you should like it.

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September 07, 2017, 03:35:31 AM
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hello phil!
based on my noob calculations, ryzen rig mining xmr draws about 190W? Is this correct?
total 550 W = 180Wx2(for the 1080ti) + 190W(ryzen+board+mem+psu+fan)


am torn between a celeron build($2294 at local prices) vs a ryzen build($2618 at local prices),

$324 difference. the ryzen build earns less than $1 additional after power considerations.
ryzen build is easier to sell though and should also be fine for gaming.

I wonder if I will be able to achieve 500+ H/s @ cryptonight(xmr) on a ryzen 1700?

builds for reference:
Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming 3 + Ryzen 7 1700 + 2x4GB DDR4 2400 + Sandisk Ultra Fit 16GB + Corsair RM850x
2 x Zotac GTX 1080TI Founders Edition + 1 x Zotac GTX 1070 Mini
$2618

Gigabyte GA-Gaming B8 + Intel Celeron G3930 + 4GB DDR4 2400 + Sandisk Ultra Fit 16GB + Corsair RM850x
2 x Zotac GTX 1080TI Founders Edition + 1 x Zotac GTX 1070 Mini
$2294
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September 07, 2017, 04:32:09 AM
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hello phil!
based on my noob calculations, ryzen rig mining xmr draws about 190W? Is this correct?
total 550 W = 180Wx2(for the 1080ti) + 190W(ryzen+board+mem+psu+fan)


am torn between a celeron build($2294 at local prices) vs a ryzen build($2618 at local prices),

$324 difference. the ryzen build earns less than $1 additional after power considerations.
ryzen build is easier to sell though and should also be fine for gaming.

I wonder if I will be able to achieve 500+ H/s @ cryptonight(xmr) on a ryzen 1700?

builds for reference:
Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming 3 + Ryzen 7 1700 + 2x4GB DDR4 2400 + Sandisk Ultra Fit 16GB + Corsair RM850x
2 x Zotac GTX 1080TI Founders Edition + 1 x Zotac GTX 1070 Mini
$2618

Gigabyte GA-Gaming B8 + Intel Celeron G3930 + 4GB DDR4 2400 + Sandisk Ultra Fit 16GB + Corsair RM850x
2 x Zotac GTX 1080TI Founders Edition + 1 x Zotac GTX 1070 Mini
$2294


Well the 1080 ''tis do well with the ryZen.  I get 1400 to 1420 using 400 watts.

The CPU alone mining is 150 watts.

If I pulled the 1080 ''tis and put in a low power 1050 ti. The CPU mining would be at 125 watts.

I went higher end on the 1800x as price was good.

I may add an Evga 1070 waterblock to my build.

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September 07, 2017, 05:27:22 AM
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I wonder if I will be able to achieve 500+ H/s @ cryptonight(xmr) on a ryzen 1700?



1700 should get 500h easily using xmr-stak-notl miner
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September 07, 2017, 01:12:25 PM
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I wonder if I will be able to achieve 500+ H/s @ cryptonight(xmr) on a ryzen 1700?



1700 should get 500h easily using xmr-stak-notl miner

yeah I get 587 with the 1800x

I do suggest a good cooler


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-CL12-V1

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yeah I get 587 with the 1800x

I do suggest a good cooler


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-CL12-V1
What frequency and voltage, out of curiosity?

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September 07, 2017, 02:50:57 PM
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I wonder if I will be able to achieve 500+ H/s @ cryptonight(xmr) on a ryzen 1700?



1700 should get 500h easily using xmr-stak-notl miner

yeah I get 587 with the 1800x

I do suggest a good cooler


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-CL12-V1

i just realized i have a ryzen 1700 (non x model) lying around with no use at all, i will put it to work asap.
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yeah I get 587 with the 1800x

I do suggest a good cooler


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-CL12-V1
What frequency and voltage, out of curiosity?

first off I use this software from nicehash


NVIDIA
Download
Version 2.0.1.1 - NVIDIA

https://miner.nicehash.com/


and  while it can mine the cpu and the gpus I mine the cpu with it.

I mine ebwf 3_3 for the gpus.

I use rzyen master to clock the cpu to 3950  vs 3700

I left voltage stock.

The key is a good cooler
and realize the the temps shown on ryzen master are all offset 20c high

so if the temps read 60c a core  you are 40c

 have the biggest  evga water cooler


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-CL28-V1


it is overkill


I will get this cooler https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-CL12-V1


I think  I am going to build a 1920x  super beast next

the board has correct spacing but is 389 the cpu is 799

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yeah I get 587 with the 1800x

I do suggest a good cooler


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-CL12-V1
What frequency and voltage, out of curiosity?

first off I use this software from nicehash


NVIDIA
Download
Version 2.0.1.1 - NVIDIA

https://miner.nicehash.com/


and  while it can mine the cpu and the gpus I mine the cpu with it.

I mine ebwf 3_3 for the gpus.

I use rzyen master to clock the cpu to 3950  vs 3700

I left voltage stock.

The key is a good cooler
and realize the the temps shown on ryzen master are all offset 20c high

so if the temps read 60c a core  you are 40c

 have the biggest  evga water cooler


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-CL28-V1


it is overkill


I will get this cooler https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-CL12-V1


I think  I am going to build a 1920x  super beast next


just tried that, the result was $0.4 a day, for some reason the miner shows just 180 H/s, my cpu is at stock 3.7ghz, any tips?
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phil & phils friends.

which do you prefer ...

ledger or trezor ?
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phil & phils friends.

which do you prefer ...

ledger or trezor ?

I love Trezors - I have 3 of them.

Two for active daily use and the 3rd one for BTC, LTC for family savings.

But I have 1 Ledger Nano S too - mainly for alts like Ripple.

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yeah I get 587 with the 1800x

I do suggest a good cooler


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-CL12-V1
What frequency and voltage, out of curiosity?

first off I use this software from nicehash


NVIDIA
Download
Version 2.0.1.1 - NVIDIA

https://miner.nicehash.com/


and  while it can mine the cpu and the gpus I mine the cpu with it.

I mine ebwf 3_3 for the gpus.

I use rzyen master to clock the cpu to 3950  vs 3700

I left voltage stock.

The key is a good cooler
and realize the the temps shown on ryzen master are all offset 20c high

so if the temps read 60c a core  you are 40c

 have the biggest  evga water cooler


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-CL28-V1


it is overkill


I will get this cooler https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-CL12-V1


I think  I am going to build a 1920x  super beast next


just tried that, the result was $0.4 a day, for some reason the miner shows just 180 H/s, my cpu is at stock 3.7ghz, any tips?
 

you must not have the right cpu miner

are you getting


xmr-stak-notl miner  to run?  from your nicehash down load?

@ rs1x

 trezor is what I like but I never tried a ledger

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Perhaps a bit off topic, but one of the reasons WHY I insist on positive pressure FILTERED air intake.

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 FULL Moon last night was a rather ominous DARK orange (it should have been bright near-white), but the smoke got WORSE today.



Can you elaborate on your filtration setup?

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@ crazydane -

where are you located?
I'm in Virginia USA (but born and raised in Denmark, that land of the most expensive electricity)
Where in VA, me too Cheesy

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Any recommendation on PSU for 6x 1080 ti?
at least 2 x Modular Gold or Platinum 850W from eVGA, Corsair, Seasonic, Thermaltake, Rosewill + add2psu wire type


 I'd go with at LEAST a 1000 or perhaps an 1100 (3 cards + MB + HD + etc) and at least an 850 but preferably another 1000 (other 3 cards) - TDP on the 1080ti starts at 250, and I suspect there is SOMEONE out there that has even higher from the factory.
 Keep in mind that TDP is a TARGET, the card can AND WILL exceed it momentarily at times when the load level shifts.

 I'd EXPECT occasional issues from running JUST 3 cards on an 850, that's VERY little room for spike handling, unless they are going to be significantly reduced TDP all the time.

 An 850 is NOT going to be enough to run 3 cards AND the CPU/RAM/Motherboard/HD unless the GPUs are VERY MUCH REDUCED on TDP, and it's going to be iffy even THEN.



 A 2400 watt server PSU would be plenty, presuming it has all the ATX connections you need to run the MB with AND enough PCI-E and "riser power" connectors - AND presuming you have 220 volts to run it on.



I have 220v setup

whats your opinion on gold vs plat -- my electric bill is the bane of my existence lol

I've found the cards run well @ 200 watts on nvOC -- but if you think there's a better efficiency sweet spot i'm all ears!

http://www.parallelminer.com/product/power-supply-kit-for-3-antminer-l3-plus-litecoin-miners-ltc-94-platinum-high-efficiency-200-240v/

Also this PSU example only has 6 pins, but I need 8 pins ?

Is there a setting to disable that in the GPU?

pretty cool mobo adapter if you guys havent seen this already
http://www.parallelminer.com/product/180watt-max-24pin-atx-power-module-included-sata-molex-cpu-power-connectors-ditch-your-atx-power-supply-entirely/


+ I'm swamped and have been swamped with DIY projects I'm looking to just buy a solid gpu frame or case lol xD they seem relatively similar on ebay . . + around 150 which seems a bit high for what you get . . imo

I'd recommend those platinum server PSUs

This one comes with 6+2 pins at the card end of the cables http://www.parallelminer.com/product/2400-watt-power-supply-kit-for-gpu-mining-94-efficiency-200-240v-up-to-24-gpu

After testing on one rig I'm ordering another 4. Here's my two cents:

Pros:
Good value compared to decent 1000W+ ATX PSUs (in my region at least)
Lots of power overhead
Which also means you should be operating in the efficiency sweet spot
Run risers from a PCIE cable and drop the SATA-PCIE adapters
Compact size and the breakout board keeps the cabling tidy

Cons:
The small stacked fans are VERY loud if it gets hot. My rigs draw ~1100W and at 20˚C ambient it doesn't get loud at all.
Shorter warranty. But I trust server quality gear and will order a spare to have on hand.

If I was being picky:
The ATX replacement module has a screw on barrel plug on the PCIE cable which is a bit fiddly. Probably best to solder it together permanently.
The only C19 power cable I could easily source was more expensive than a regular kettle cord and had a 15A plug so I needed to change that to fit a domestic 10A socket. Both no big deal but a little more work if you were setting up lots of rigs.
Appreciate the input,

Now here's my next question... if you were setting up a max 1080 ti rig (6,8,12,13)
Each ti will get 200 watts.. is there a PSU thatll work for me here? Otherwise dual PSU's of choice?

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yeah I get 587 with the 1800x

I do suggest a good cooler


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-CL12-V1
What frequency and voltage, out of curiosity?

first off I use this software from nicehash


NVIDIA
Download
Version 2.0.1.1 - NVIDIA

https://miner.nicehash.com/


and  while it can mine the cpu and the gpus I mine the cpu with it.

I mine ebwf 3_3 for the gpus.

I use rzyen master to clock the cpu to 3950  vs 3700

I left voltage stock.

The key is a good cooler
and realize the the temps shown on ryzen master are all offset 20c high

so if the temps read 60c a core  you are 40c

 have the biggest  evga water cooler


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-CL28-V1


it is overkill


I will get this cooler https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-CL12-V1


I think  I am going to build a 1920x  super beast next

the board has correct spacing but is 389 the cpu is 799


What's the power usage on these CPU when mining ?

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Any recommendation on PSU for 6x 1080 ti?
at least 2 x Modular Gold or Platinum 850W from eVGA, Corsair, Seasonic, Thermaltake, Rosewill + add2psu wire type


 I'd go with at LEAST a 1000 or perhaps an 1100 (3 cards + MB + HD + etc) and at least an 850 but preferably another 1000 (other 3 cards) - TDP on the 1080ti starts at 250, and I suspect there is SOMEONE out there that has even higher from the factory.
 Keep in mind that TDP is a TARGET, the card can AND WILL exceed it momentarily at times when the load level shifts.

 I'd EXPECT occasional issues from running JUST 3 cards on an 850, that's VERY little room for spike handling, unless they are going to be significantly reduced TDP all the time.

 An 850 is NOT going to be enough to run 3 cards AND the CPU/RAM/Motherboard/HD unless the GPUs are VERY MUCH REDUCED on TDP, and it's going to be iffy even THEN.



 A 2400 watt server PSU would be plenty, presuming it has all the ATX connections you need to run the MB with AND enough PCI-E and "riser power" connectors - AND presuming you have 220 volts to run it on.



I have 220v setup

whats your opinion on gold vs plat -- my electric bill is the bane of my existence lol

I've found the cards run well @ 200 watts on nvOC -- but if you think there's a better efficiency sweet spot i'm all ears!

http://www.parallelminer.com/product/power-supply-kit-for-3-antminer-l3-plus-litecoin-miners-ltc-94-platinum-high-efficiency-200-240v/

Also this PSU example only has 6 pins, but I need 8 pins ?

Is there a setting to disable that in the GPU?

pretty cool mobo adapter if you guys havent seen this already
http://www.parallelminer.com/product/180watt-max-24pin-atx-power-module-included-sata-molex-cpu-power-connectors-ditch-your-atx-power-supply-entirely/


+ I'm swamped and have been swamped with DIY projects I'm looking to just buy a solid gpu frame or case lol xD they seem relatively similar on ebay . . + around 150 which seems a bit high for what you get . . imo

I'd recommend those platinum server PSUs

This one comes with 6+2 pins at the card end of the cables http://www.parallelminer.com/product/2400-watt-power-supply-kit-for-gpu-mining-94-efficiency-200-240v-up-to-24-gpu

After testing on one rig I'm ordering another 4. Here's my two cents:

Pros:
Good value compared to decent 1000W+ ATX PSUs (in my region at least)
Lots of power overhead
Which also means you should be operating in the efficiency sweet spot
Run risers from a PCIE cable and drop the SATA-PCIE adapters
Compact size and the breakout board keeps the cabling tidy

Cons:
The small stacked fans are VERY loud if it gets hot. My rigs draw ~1100W and at 20˚C ambient it doesn't get loud at all.
Shorter warranty. But I trust server quality gear and will order a spare to have on hand.

If I was being picky:
The ATX replacement module has a screw on barrel plug on the PCIE cable which is a bit fiddly. Probably best to solder it together permanently.
The only C19 power cable I could easily source was more expensive than a regular kettle cord and had a 15A plug so I needed to change that to fit a domestic 10A socket. Both no big deal but a little more work if you were setting up lots of rigs.
Appreciate the input,

Now here's my next question... if you were setting up a max 1080 ti rig (6,8,12,13)
Each ti will get 200 watts.. is there a PSU thatll work for me here? Otherwise dual PSU's of choice?

this psu

http://www.parallelminer.com/product/power-supply-kit-for-3-antminer-l3-litecoin-miners-ltc-94-platinum-high-efficiency-200-240v/

and   flminer has cables and a pico to add to it.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040729.msg20310280#msg20310280


I believe combining these 2 would allow for a true beast.

I like the 8 pin cables build by filmier
Like the pico he made.
I like the 2400 watt psu from parallel miner.

I have all this gear .

I am not to keen on huge 1080 ti rigs but if that is your choice  I would combine the gear above and have at it.

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