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September 20, 2017, 12:57:36 PM
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I'm seriously considering a couple of Vega 56's now... But I have a bit of a dilemma. I've got a thin client in the living room that's basically using iGPU. It's connected to my NAS, acts as a media server basically (it's running Kodi and also acts as a bluetooth receiver/air-port-thinngy for streaming music from ipad/iphone devices.

I could add one or two Vegas on that board and mine away but there are 2 problems: noise and temperature - see, that thing is tucked away inside a cupboard. I however would still want to expand this rig because I want to use it as a local pc to play games on occasionally in the living room. Unfortunately it's driven by a Celeron and sports 4GB of ram.

In the end I'm probably gonna have to take this little rig out of the cupboard, and put a new one in instead with a beefier cpu, more ram and a decent GPU if I want to run games from it. But I won't be able to use it for mining. I could recycle the old one though and put a few Vega's on. If I had space to put it anywhere... Sad

Choices, choices...

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September 20, 2017, 02:29:53 PM
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I'm seriously considering a couple of Vega 56's now... But I have a bit of a dilemma. I've got a thin client in the living room that's basically using iGPU. It's connected to my NAS, acts as a media server basically (it's running Kodi and also acts as a bluetooth receiver/air-port-thinngy for streaming music from ipad/iphone devices.

I could add one or two Vegas on that board and mine away but there are 2 problems: noise and temperature - see, that thing is tucked away inside a cupboard. I however would still want to expand this rig because I want to use it as a local pc to play games on occasionally in the living room. Unfortunately it's driven by a Celeron and sports 4GB of ram.

In the end I'm probably gonna have to take this little rig out of the cupboard, and put a new one in instead with a beefier cpu, more ram and a decent GPU if I want to run games from it. But I won't be able to use it for mining. I could recycle the old one though and put a few Vega's on. If I had space to put it anywhere... Sad

Choices, choices...

Vega's use so much power and are inferior to 1080 TI as well.

Why not buy those ?
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September 20, 2017, 04:41:08 PM
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I'm seriously considering a couple of Vega 56's now... But I have a bit of a dilemma. I've got a thin client in the living room that's basically using iGPU. It's connected to my NAS, acts as a media server basically (it's running Kodi and also acts as a bluetooth receiver/air-port-thinngy for streaming music from ipad/iphone devices.

I could add one or two Vegas on that board and mine away but there are 2 problems: noise and temperature - see, that thing is tucked away inside a cupboard. I however would still want to expand this rig because I want to use it as a local pc to play games on occasionally in the living room. Unfortunately it's driven by a Celeron and sports 4GB of ram.

In the end I'm probably gonna have to take this little rig out of the cupboard, and put a new one in instead with a beefier cpu, more ram and a decent GPU if I want to run games from it. But I won't be able to use it for mining. I could recycle the old one though and put a few Vega's on. If I had space to put it anywhere... Sad

Choices, choices...

Vega's use so much power and are inferior to 1080 TI as well.

Why not buy those ?
Vega 56 @ $520: 1800 H/s mining XMR = $3.35/day before electricity cost
1080Ti @ $900: 650 sol/s mining ZEC = $2.5/day before electricity cost

WTF are you talking about? Cheesy



have to delete this  since  your prices are wrong.

1080ti's are available for 700 in the usa

 $709.99

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126188

even lower from evga  679.99

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6390-RX

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September 20, 2017, 05:09:40 PM
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I disagree with you Phil on this one. The 1080Ti's might be a bit cheaper in the US but so are the Vega's, and my math still works. My argument is completely valid.

You get more hash per dollar and more dollar per day currently mining XMR with Vega than you do mining any other big coin with a 1080Ti.

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September 20, 2017, 05:44:14 PM
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why even buy vega, price on Rx 570 4gb is now $250 or so

half the price of the vega 56 at $549 , two of those mine more xmr than a single vega for around the same powe?

am I totally off with the numbers here?  I understand you can achive higer density with the vega but , at $550 , might

as well get teo 580 or add a bit more for 1080ti ?
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September 20, 2017, 05:59:58 PM
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I disagree with you Phil on this one. The 1080Ti's might be a bit cheaper in the US but so are the Vega's, and my math still works. My argument is completely valid.

You get more hash per dollar and more dollar per day currently mining XMR with Vega than you do mining any other big coin with a 1080Ti.


price for the vega was close enough  I see some at 549 and 539 so 520  is not off much.

but I see some 1080 ti's at 710 and 680    900 is way off. thus the deletion.



do I think

 549$ usd amd vega 56  is a better deal then the


 679$  usd nvidia 1080 ti    yes for today it is.

as xmr is good at the moment.

do I think 2 rx 570's  may be a better choice  maybe  .


gpu cards are flat for the moment  I am not buying them at this time.


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September 20, 2017, 06:30:46 PM
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Seems UK pricing is a lot closer to US for Vega than it is for 1080Ti.

For the records, Vega hashes easily at 1800 h/s on Cryptonight. Some have reached 2000 with custom tweaks. That's 2.5 times RX570 for less than 2.5 times the price AND power draw.

The ratio is only that good for XMR now, that's true. Maybe more potential can be unlocked for other algos, too early to tell.

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September 20, 2017, 07:21:44 PM
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Seems UK pricing is a lot closer to US for Vega than it is for 1080Ti.

For the records, Vega hashes easily at 1800 h/s on Cryptonight. Some have reached 2000 with custom tweaks. That's 2.5 times RX570 for less than 2.5 times the price AND power draw.

The ratio is only that good for XMR now, that's true. Maybe more potential can be unlocked for other algos, too early to tell.


That is why  when I delete a post I almost always quote it.  Especially in this case.  As pricing varies place to place.

No question for you in the UK  the vega 56 looks pretty good.

Even now with patient shopping I can sometimes get a 1080 ti  at 665 usd.

I have never seen the vega lower  then 529.

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Guys

I am trying to get my hands on these 8 x slot Colorful motherboards via my contacts in China.

The board was just launched and my contacts will get in touch with me on how to get them in bulk at the right price (ie. not from crazy resellers and huge markups).

Will revert as soon as I have more info.

Thanks

Nice I look forward to testing it.

I got some info from my guy in China.

1. He said he could get them at 220 USD per mobo and payable in BTC only.

2. The above price is without shipping - he can arrange it for DHL, Fedex etc.  - additional charges for this.

3. Taxation when goes through US Customs or Europe, Asia - I have no eye deer  Grin

My thoughts:
1. I think that price is on the high side. I dont mind giving my guy some markup for his efforts but gut feel this price a tad above my comfort level.

2. I don't see it selling in any of the China online markets yet - Aliexpress, TaoBao, AliBaba - I reckon we wait awhile more since this Colorful announcement was just last week.

3. I would not recommend buying in bulk - maybe 1 or 2 units for testing - and when we see better pricing from him or elsewhere then we group order for higher qty.

4. I would wait for awhile more for the mobo to officially get into the market - I think think this board no more than 150$-180$ (maybe).

5. This mobo is marketed by Colorful a massive IT company in China - currently largest NVIDIA distributor and they make their own OEM cards too.

This seller is my trusted seller - bought many mining stuff from him and he is quite resourceful getting the parts I need in China for my farms.

Let's discuss further this in this thread.

I have never done any group buys, escrows etc. so I may need Phil to suggest better options, for those who wants to buys now at that 220$ price.



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Guys

I am trying to get my hands on these 8 x slot Colorful motherboards via my contacts in China.

The board was just launched and my contacts will get in touch with me on how to get them in bulk at the right price (ie. not from crazy resellers and huge markups).

Will revert as soon as I have more info.

Thanks

Nice I look forward to testing it.

I got some info from my guy in China.

1. He said he could get them at 220 USD per mobo and payable in BTC only.

2. The above price is without shipping - he can arrange it for DHL, Fedex etc.  - additional charges for this.

3. Taxation when goes through US Customs or Europe, Asia - I have no eye deer  Grin

My thoughts:
1. I think that price is on the high side. I dont mind giving my guy some markup for his efforts but gut feel this price a tad above my comfort level.

2. I don't see it selling in any of the China online markets yet - Aliexpress, TaoBao, AliBaba - I reckon we wait awhile more since this Colorful announcement was just last week.

3. I would not recommend buying in bulk - maybe 1 or 2 units for testing - and when we see better pricing from him or elsewhere then we group order for higher qty.

4. I would wait for awhile more for the mobo to officially get into the market - I think think this board no more than 150$-180$ (maybe).

5. This mobo is marketed by Colorful a massive IT company in China - currently largest NVIDIA distributor and they make their own OEM cards too.

This seller is my trusted seller - bought many mining stuff from him and he is quite resourceful getting the parts I need in China for my farms.

Let's discuss further this in this thread.

I have never done any group buys, escrows etc. so I may need Phil to suggest better options, for those who wants to buys now at that 220$ price.




I would like one for testing and demo in the thread.

220  usd with a cc purchase would be okay.

220 usd with BTC  = let us wait just a bit.

I am looking forward to the 6 card boards you got.

I am pretty sure  I can do 6 1070's  if I make tdp 70%

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September 20, 2017, 11:15:07 PM
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Guys

I am trying to get my hands on these 8 x slot Colorful motherboards via my contacts in China.

The board was just launched and my contacts will get in touch with me on how to get them in bulk at the right price (ie. not from crazy resellers and huge markups).

Will revert as soon as I have more info.

Thanks

Nice I look forward to testing it.

I got some info from my guy in China.

1. He said he could get them at 220 USD per mobo and payable in BTC only.

2. The above price is without shipping - he can arrange it for DHL, Fedex etc.  - additional charges for this.

3. Taxation when goes through US Customs or Europe, Asia - I have no eye deer  Grin

My thoughts:
1. I think that price is on the high side. I dont mind giving my guy some markup for his efforts but gut feel this price a tad above my comfort level.

2. I don't see it selling in any of the China online markets yet - Aliexpress, TaoBao, AliBaba - I reckon we wait awhile more since this Colorful announcement was just last week.

3. I would not recommend buying in bulk - maybe 1 or 2 units for testing - and when we see better pricing from him or elsewhere then we group order for higher qty.

4. I would wait for awhile more for the mobo to officially get into the market - I think think this board no more than 150$-180$ (maybe).

5. This mobo is marketed by Colorful a massive IT company in China - currently largest NVIDIA distributor and they make their own OEM cards too.

This seller is my trusted seller - bought many mining stuff from him and he is quite resourceful getting the parts I need in China for my farms.

Let's discuss further this in this thread.

I have never done any group buys, escrows etc. so I may need Phil to suggest better options, for those who wants to buys now at that 220$ price.




Piggybacking on this I would like two to demo as well , ... $220 is fine for a few demo units

I usually get two in case one is a dud when i test out new boards.
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for the moment I suggest waiting until you can us a cc or some legit payment.

I do not want to spend 12 or 13 hours organizing a group buy like I did with canaan.io  only to be told  sorry no deal.

when you are getting lets say your  box of 10 order a box of 20 I can collect  btc  for the 10  .  and no one is left with sorry no deal.

much better to collect when we know the gear is being shipped

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September 21, 2017, 12:20:43 AM
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hi guys, is anyone mining HUSH? looked at whattomine and it showed as the most profitable coin for my setup (nvidia rig), im mining zen atm
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Do you have any update on the Onda D1800?
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Mining with GPU's took a dive since last summer. Here's to hoping!
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Do you have any update on the Onda D1800?

here it is


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He told me he shipped me a test one via EMS  I am waiting on it.

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September 21, 2017, 01:52:03 AM
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Was browsing aliexpress and saw this

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Computer-Motherboard-PCI-E-PCI-Express-Riser-Card-16x-USB-3-0-Data-Cable-SATA-to/32821305989.html?spm=2114.12010108.1000013.1.5b051f64ywS3va&traffic_analysisId=recommend_2088_1_89359_shotall&scm=1007.13339.89359.0&pvid=e51f2d3c-5b2b-4964-8781-60b3890125f4&tpp=1


Pcie 16x to 8 risers slots. Could be cool if it works, even if it isn't cost effective.

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hi guys, is anyone mining HUSH? looked at whattomine and it showed as the most profitable coin for my setup (nvidia rig), im mining zen atm

I mined it for quite some time.  I stockpiled enough, and am now sitting on it while the devs do their thing.  It fluctuates wildly in price.  They have a presence here on bitcointtalk, but are more active on their slack channel.
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September 21, 2017, 02:37:14 AM
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Yup - one on its way to Phil.

I am halfway setting up the boards for the remaining P106 that I got previously (18 pieces) so 3 x 6-P106 rigs with 2 x 1500w HP or 1 x 2400w Delta, and 1 x EVGA1000-G3 to power up the 3 x onboard SATA. Got sidetracked due to my travel commitments, but should be able to continue working on the rigs this week.


@KaydenC -- short answer. NO.

Long answer.

I ordered a test unit awhile ago but it got lost in the mail and courier blamed a technical glitched when the package with my name contained a GPS unit with car mount instead. After 3 weeks chasing them to find the other guy who had my package -- gave up.

Anyways - 8 concurrent 1x streams on a single 16x PCI lane ?? That's a mouth full and further invitation to potential PCI lanes limitations, special drivers, compatible with Windows. Maybe possible in Linux. Anwyays, the search goes on for full 16x slots, like the 6 and 8 x full PCI mobos  we are discussing here on the thread.

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Yup - one on its way to Phil.

I am halfway setting up the boards for the remaining P106 that I got previously (18 pieces) so 3 x 6-P106 rigs with 2 x 1500w HP or 1 x 2400w Delta, and 1 x EVGA1000-G3 to power up the 3 x onboard SATA. Got sidetracked due to my travel commitments, but should be able to continue working on the rigs this week.

Cool. Look forward to seeing your & Phil's updates. And thanks as always!
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