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September 22, 2017, 05:07:26 PM
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Is Onda a Biostar branding for Asian markets? We have done well with all of our Biostar motherboards this year, so if they are the ones that actually produced this D1800 it makes me allot more confident that it will work as advertised.

I do think that 8 slot Colorful motherboard (forgot the model name) that has been shown recently looks the most enticing, but these D1800s look slick too. --- Does anyone know of a case/frame that has been designed to fit these?


I don't think so. In Hong Kong, Onda is an unheard of brand, didn't know it existed till this thread. The colorful 8 slot board looks good and compact. Really liking 8 slots with no risers. That load of 6pin pcie requirement though, requiring a 2400W or dual 1200W for enough cables. It's troublesome unless we can use 3 or 4 way splitter cables... if they exist.

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September 22, 2017, 05:09:45 PM
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 Well, IF they are a scam they're at least not getting crazy on their claimed numbers - but a 6200 RPM fan is NOT intended for home usage, that piercing whine gets LOUD.

 I had some of the old 80mm Delta "screamers" that pulled very close to that RPM level - they were NOT easy to damp the noise from.

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September 22, 2017, 05:53:04 PM
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How well does the Zotac Mini do with cooling a 1080 Ti? We have some of the 1070s with that cooler and they do well, but at about half the power consumption.  That's a nice price in any case of course.

70% tdp  and they are fine

I do open case 3 card builds  riser free


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Is Onda a Biostar branding for Asian markets? We have done well with all of our Biostar motherboards this year, so if they are the ones that actually produced this D1800 it makes me allot more confident that it will work as advertised.

I do think that 8 slot Colorful motherboard (forgot the model name) that has been shown recently looks the most enticing, but these D1800s look slick too. --- Does anyone know of a case/frame that has been designed to fit these?


I don't think so. In Hong Kong, Onda is an unheard of brand, didn't know it existed till this thread. The colorful 8 slot board looks good and compact. Really liking 8 slots with no risers. That load of 6pin pcie requirement though, requiring a 2400W or dual 1200W for enough cables. It's troublesome unless we can use 3 or 4 way splitter cables... if they exist.


the six card comes soon

Goal is :

1080 ti -------- water
1080 ti -------- water
1070 ti -------- water
1070 ti -------- water
1080 ti -------- mini

there are issues  that may happen

 1) cpu is welded and may not like  that many 1080 ti's
 2) lot of juice for this  could be a problem
 3) max ram may be 1 8gb stick sodimm

I am going to work with spotswood

I will provide  measurements  for him to build a case.

this card below may be best card for the six card board


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-6161-RX

if it is in a case.

I could use a case build and put this with these 3







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September 23, 2017, 04:36:32 PM
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How well does the Zotac Mini do with cooling a 1080 Ti? We have some of the 1070s with that cooler and they do well, but at about half the power consumption.  That's a nice price in any case of course.

70% tdp  and they are fine

I do open case 3 card builds  riser free


1080ti - blower / 1080ti - blower / 1080ti - mini







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Is Onda a Biostar branding for Asian markets? We have done well with all of our Biostar motherboards this year, so if they are the ones that actually produced this D1800 it makes me allot more confident that it will work as advertised.

I do think that 8 slot Colorful motherboard (forgot the model name) that has been shown recently looks the most enticing, but these D1800s look slick too. --- Does anyone know of a case/frame that has been designed to fit these?


I don't think so. In Hong Kong, Onda is an unheard of brand, didn't know it existed till this thread. The colorful 8 slot board looks good and compact. Really liking 8 slots with no risers. That load of 6pin pcie requirement though, requiring a 2400W or dual 1200W for enough cables. It's troublesome unless we can use 3 or 4 way splitter cables... if they exist.


the six card comes soon

Goal is :

1080 ti -------- water
1080 ti -------- water
1070 ti -------- water
1070 ti -------- water
1080 ti -------- mini

there are issues  that may happen

 1) cpu is welded and may not like  that many 1080 ti's
 2) lot of juice for this  could be a problem
 3) max ram may be 1 8gb stick sodimm

I am going to work with spotswood

I will provide  measurements  for him to build a case.

this card below may be best card for the six card board


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-6161-RX

if it is in a case.

I could use a case build and put this with these 3








My favorite 1060 so far is this EVGA:

https://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-6163-KR

I bought 3 more recently. They work as expected and run cooler than my Zotacs.

EDIT: I think your choice (ie:  EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 GAMING)  should good in a case.

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September 23, 2017, 05:01:28 PM
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Anyone have one of these?  Asus A B250 Mining Motherboard With 19 PCIe Slots



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September 23, 2017, 05:52:10 PM
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I am old well if 60 is old  I am old.

I realize the forum has people from 13 to 85.

I have done 3 to 5 thousand in experimental builds the last 2 years.

I don't have time to argue with insulting posts.

The build is very specific it will be a water cooled build

Goal is 3 water cooled 1080tis or maybe water cooled 1070's
and 1 water cooled  ryzen 1800x

done riser free.

why  because I want to encourage people to build  all kinds of rigs.

I want every gamer  to mine in his sleep and water cooled rigs are quiet.

yeah  I have 20,000 usd plus in mining gear paid off  earning me more then 1000 a month.

real expansion for me will be the new solar array. till then I build different gpu rigs.  with different models

You should take a look at the EKWB blocks that connect 3-7 GPU's all only using a single slot each Cheesy


There is not enough room between the cards for airflow to the components on the back of the card.
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September 23, 2017, 06:11:28 PM
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Anyone have one of these?  Asus A B250 Mining Motherboard With 19 PCIe Slots




 What OS can handle 18-19 cards?


I would think Linux only, which Linux or any will work?
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September 23, 2017, 06:27:17 PM
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Anyone have one of these?  Asus A B250 Mining Motherboard With 19 PCIe Slots




 What OS can handle 18-19 cards?


I would think Linux only, which Linux or any will work?

nvoc 0019  does at least  13

simplemining is over 10

I would guess they will be 19  soon if they are not already there.

I know 19 looks cool but it is pretty dumb  unless you have 5 or more.

reason why  if you have 1 and it goes down   19 gpus go off line.

if you have 3 rigs 6+6+7   and one dies  you still have  12 or 13 gpus running.

if you have a 2400 watt psu  like this


http://www.parallelminer.com/product/2400-watt-power-supply-kit-for-gpu-mining-94-efficiency-200-240v-up-to-24-gpu/


with a pico psu   you could do 19x 1060's with it


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September 23, 2017, 10:37:09 PM
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So I got one Onda D1800 BTC mb and tested it out this weekend.

First of all, the board cannot start it itself. There is a reset button but it cannot boot the computer. I tried to shortcut the pwr pins and it did not work either. Finally I found that if i unplug the mb psu input and plug in again, it will start. Maybe I got a fault one? I did not have a manual and cannot find one on its website.

Second, the pinput and poutput on the mb as it highlighted on its website is not true. Seemed to me they are all input. That is, you need to plug in all six input with either sata or molex.

Third, the distance between each pci-e slot is really short. wondering how to cool down those cards if you have all six on it.

Fourth, every time I restart it, there is something like "Get windows ready. Please do not turn off your computer". It would run like 10 mins.

Anyway, not a good start for me. I would probably buy another brand next time.

 

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September 23, 2017, 11:03:45 PM
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Anyone have one of these?  Asus A B250 Mining Motherboard With 19 PCIe Slots




 What OS can handle 18-19 cards?


I would think Linux only, which Linux or any will work?

nvoc 0019  does at least  13

simplemining is over 10

I would guess they will be 19  soon if they are not already there.

I know 19 looks cool but it is pretty dumb  unless you have 5 or more.

reason why  if you have 1 and it goes down   19 gpus go off line.

if you have 3 rigs 6+6+7   and one dies  you still have  12 or 13 gpus running.

if you have a 2400 watt psu  like this


http://www.parallelminer.com/product/2400-watt-power-supply-kit-for-gpu-mining-94-efficiency-200-240v-up-to-24-gpu/


with a pico psu   you could do 19x 1060's with it



Even so, it would take a lot of downtime to make up for the upfront savings of not having to buy 3 motherboards, ram, CPU's and drives. 19 cards on a single rig is also a solo mining beast!  Grin
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September 23, 2017, 11:12:10 PM
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Anyone have one of these?  Asus A B250 Mining Motherboard With 19 PCIe Slots




Isn't that the one where the pcie ports are too close together and usb risers can easily touch each other, shorting out (or frying) if they are bumped or lean a little in either direction? I think someone posted a picture of one with scorched usb risers after that happened, but I can't find it at the moment...

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September 23, 2017, 11:28:49 PM
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Anyone have one of these?  Asus A B250 Mining Motherboard With 19 PCIe Slots




Isn't that the one where the pcie ports are too close together and usb risers can easily touch each other, shorting out (or frying) if they are bumped or lean a little in either direction? I think someone posted a picture of one with scorched usb risers after that happened, but I can't find it at the moment...

You are thinking of the ASRock H110 Pro BTC+. The PCI-E slots are right net to each other in a row and barely have enough space for the usb risers. It's a stupid design. The solder on the back of the risers WILL short out on the metal USB connector unless you insulate them from coming in contact. I filed the back of the risers and put two pieces of electrical tape over them, which solved the problem. Even Biostar made fun of how stupid the design on the ASRock board is. The Asus B250 Mining Expert PCI-E spacing is much better and desen't have that problem.

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September 23, 2017, 11:32:15 PM
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Anyone have one of these?  Asus A B250 Mining Motherboard With 19 PCIe Slots




Isn't that the one where the pcie ports are too close together and usb risers can easily touch each other, shorting out (or frying) if they are bumped or lean a little in either direction? I think someone posted a picture of one with scorched usb risers after that happened, but I can't find it at the moment...

You are thinking of the ASRock H110 Pro BTC+. The PCI-E slots are right net to each other in a row and barely have enough space for the usb risers. It's a stupid design. The solder on the back of the risers WILL short out on the metal USB connector unless you insulate them from coming in contact. I filed the back of the risers and put two pieces of electrical tape over them, which solved the problem. Even Biostar made fun of how stupid the design on the ASRock board is. The Asus B250 Mining Expert PCI-E spacing is much better and desen't have that problem.



Yep, that's the one. Now I need to go find some coffee. :p

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September 23, 2017, 11:37:55 PM
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Anyone have one of these?  Asus A B250 Mining Motherboard With 19 PCIe Slots




Isn't that the one where the pcie ports are too close together and usb risers can easily touch each other, shorting out (or frying) if they are bumped or lean a little in either direction? I think someone posted a picture of one with scorched usb risers after that happened, but I can't find it at the moment...

very easy to fix that


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Silicone-Rubber-Sheet-High-Temp-1-32-Thick-x-36-wide-x-36-long-FREE-SHIPPING-/272740139962?


cut  a few 2 inch by 9 inch strips

the piece is 36 by 36

so that would be 72

  2 by 9 inch strips   6 per board

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September 23, 2017, 11:42:40 PM
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So I got one Onda D1800 BTC mb and tested it out this weekend.

First of all, the board cannot start it itself. There is a reset button but it cannot boot the computer. I tried to shortcut the pwr pins and it did not work either. Finally I found that if i unplug the mb psu input and plug in again, it will start. Maybe I got a fault one? I did not have a manual and cannot find one on its website.

Second, the pinput and poutput on the mb as it highlighted on its website is not true. Seemed to me they are all input. That is, you need to plug in all six input with either sata or molex.

Third, the distance between each pci-e slot is really short. wondering how to cool down those cards if you have all six on it.

Fourth, every time I restart it, there is something like "Get windows ready. Please do not turn off your computer". It would run like 10 mins.

Anyway, not a good start for me. I would probably buy another brand next time.

 



yes it can  but you need to go to the bios  and set power up after  a black out. (the pandaminer were like that)

did you get into bios?

is it in Chinese?

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September 24, 2017, 01:52:27 AM
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that new MB with a million PCIE slots is nice for rig density;  but at a certain point;  you are asking for heartache.

One rig goes down;  tons of hashrate goes down.

You still have the issue with power supplies and wattage draws with this many cards;  but amplified 10 fold.




I like the new board with 6 very well spaced slots;  and a built in processor on-board;  I think it was ~$150USD....   That's a deal right there.   It looks like you could fir 6x GPU with 2.1 slot spacing (like the larger EVGA ones) and still have room for them to breathe between them...  but I could be wrong on my perspective given they are only photos to me so far and haven't had one in my hands....   but the price for sure is right for what you get, and it has multiple ATX power plugs for each supply you plan to run with it....   Id prefer 6 card density over 12+....  because the MB itself;  doesn't really take up all that much space when you split that massive board's potential across separate machines.   Given the amount of power supplies you would need;  it makes sense to split them up for redundancy sake.

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September 24, 2017, 02:17:01 AM
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Sorry for the delay ...

1. BIOS is in English - no special settings - ran stock except for auto on after power down
2. Got 1 unit running in smOS, P106 x 6 - screen grab as soon as I get the 2xrigs below installed.
3. Work in progress, 2 x boards, 6 x 2 = 12 x P106s, 2400w Delta and 1 x ATX PSU
4. Phil's unit on the way - he can do more detailed review

Dimensions in mm - 38" x 19" Huh see pix








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Work in progress, 2 x boards, 6 x 2 = 12 x ZOTAC P106s, 2400w Delta and 1 x EVGA-G3-1000w powering 3x2=6 SATA and 3x2=6 Molex.

Without the SATA and Molex powered, only 1st GPU works.

My local supplier told me that P106 has been restricted to bulk/farm orders and not for retail sales anymore  Huh






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Work in progress, 2 x boards, 6 x 2 = 12 x ZOTAC P106s, 2400w Delta and 1 x EVGA-G3-1000w powering 3x2=6 SATA and 3x2=6 Molex.

Without the SATA and Molex powered, only 1st GPU works.

My local supplier told me that P106 has been restricted to bulk/farm orders and not for retail sales anymore  Huh



Thanks for the info, citronick. How do you boot up the rig? the reset button does not work for me. I have to unplug and plug in again the mb power to start it. And when I connect sata to the first sata power in, the second pci-e did not work. Did not try first since my sata hd cable is blocking the gpu.
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September 24, 2017, 03:12:25 AM
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Since using the Deltas 2400w Platinums - I dont worry too much about PSU threshold anymore.

In most cases, instead of running PSUs to near max capacity, I use the Deltas up to 1700-1800w even though they can handle 94% of 2400w. I have the both TB250/12slots and H110/13slots and all of them are on Deltas running steady and not hot at all. The GPU farm are all with ROM mods RX480, Rx470s - underclocked and not aggressively OCed. The overall results is the warehouse stays cool 33-34c -- instead of previous state of 37-38c without the Deltas. Previously using EVGA-1300, 1600 and 1200w HP server PSUs.




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