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yeah I get 587 with the 1800x

I do suggest a good cooler


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-CL12-V1
What frequency and voltage, out of curiosity?

first off I use this software from nicehash


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https://miner.nicehash.com/


and  while it can mine the cpu and the gpus I mine the cpu with it.

I mine ebwf 3_3 for the gpus.

I use rzyen master to clock the cpu to 3950  vs 3700

I left voltage stock.

The key is a good cooler
and realize the the temps shown on ryzen master are all offset 20c high

so if the temps read 60c a core  you are 40c

 have the biggest  evga water cooler


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-CL28-V1


it is overkill


I will get this cooler https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-CL12-V1


I think  I am going to build a 1920x  super beast next

the board has correct spacing but is 389 the cpu is 799


What's the power usage on these CPU when mining ?

I am running the 1800x I will go in to the garage and shut off the two gpus give me 5 min

554 watts with 2 gpus and 1 cpu mining

144 watts with 1 cpu mining

500 watts with 2 gpu mining

78 watts no mining idle

and at idle the tdp on the 2x 1080 ti's are 6%  which is .06 x (250+250) = 30

so if you do 144-78 = 68 watts to do 580 for xmr   that is 1.6 kwatts a day or say 2 kwatts which is 20 cents at 10 cents a k-watt  the miner is making 1.35 - .20 =1.15

so I paid 380 /1.15 = 330 days the cpu is free  would I make 50 rigs like this no  but 1 yeah

I am going to make the thread ripper 1920x  in october  that will be a beast rig

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September 07, 2017, 09:39:25 PM
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Any recommendation on PSU for 6x 1080 ti?
at least 2 x Modular Gold or Platinum 850W from eVGA, Corsair, Seasonic, Thermaltake, Rosewill + add2psu wire type


 I'd go with at LEAST a 1000 or perhaps an 1100 (3 cards + MB + HD + etc) and at least an 850 but preferably another 1000 (other 3 cards) - TDP on the 1080ti starts at 250, and I suspect there is SOMEONE out there that has even higher from the factory.
 Keep in mind that TDP is a TARGET, the card can AND WILL exceed it momentarily at times when the load level shifts.

 I'd EXPECT occasional issues from running JUST 3 cards on an 850, that's VERY little room for spike handling, unless they are going to be significantly reduced TDP all the time.

 An 850 is NOT going to be enough to run 3 cards AND the CPU/RAM/Motherboard/HD unless the GPUs are VERY MUCH REDUCED on TDP, and it's going to be iffy even THEN.



 A 2400 watt server PSU would be plenty, presuming it has all the ATX connections you need to run the MB with AND enough PCI-E and "riser power" connectors - AND presuming you have 220 volts to run it on.



I have 220v setup

whats your opinion on gold vs plat -- my electric bill is the bane of my existence lol

I've found the cards run well @ 200 watts on nvOC -- but if you think there's a better efficiency sweet spot i'm all ears!

http://www.parallelminer.com/product/power-supply-kit-for-3-antminer-l3-plus-litecoin-miners-ltc-94-platinum-high-efficiency-200-240v/

Also this PSU example only has 6 pins, but I need 8 pins ?

Is there a setting to disable that in the GPU?

pretty cool mobo adapter if you guys havent seen this already
http://www.parallelminer.com/product/180watt-max-24pin-atx-power-module-included-sata-molex-cpu-power-connectors-ditch-your-atx-power-supply-entirely/


+ I'm swamped and have been swamped with DIY projects I'm looking to just buy a solid gpu frame or case lol xD they seem relatively similar on ebay . . + around 150 which seems a bit high for what you get . . imo

I'd recommend those platinum server PSUs

This one comes with 6+2 pins at the card end of the cables http://www.parallelminer.com/product/2400-watt-power-supply-kit-for-gpu-mining-94-efficiency-200-240v-up-to-24-gpu

After testing on one rig I'm ordering another 4. Here's my two cents:

Pros:
Good value compared to decent 1000W+ ATX PSUs (in my region at least)
Lots of power overhead
Which also means you should be operating in the efficiency sweet spot
Run risers from a PCIE cable and drop the SATA-PCIE adapters
Compact size and the breakout board keeps the cabling tidy

Cons:
The small stacked fans are VERY loud if it gets hot. My rigs draw ~1100W and at 20˚C ambient it doesn't get loud at all.
Shorter warranty. But I trust server quality gear and will order a spare to have on hand.

If I was being picky:
The ATX replacement module has a screw on barrel plug on the PCIE cable which is a bit fiddly. Probably best to solder it together permanently.
The only C19 power cable I could easily source was more expensive than a regular kettle cord and had a 15A plug so I needed to change that to fit a domestic 10A socket. Both no big deal but a little more work if you were setting up lots of rigs.
Appreciate the input,

Now here's my next question... if you were setting up a max 1080 ti rig (6,8,12,13)
Each ti will get 200 watts.. is there a PSU thatll work for me here? Otherwise dual PSU's of choice?

this psu

http://www.parallelminer.com/product/power-supply-kit-for-3-antminer-l3-litecoin-miners-ltc-94-platinum-high-efficiency-200-240v/

and   flminer has cables and a pico to add to it.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040729.msg20310280#msg20310280


I believe combining these 2 would allow for a true beast.

I like the 8 pin cables build by filmier
Like the pico he made.
I like the 2400 watt psu from parallel miner.

I have all this gear .

I am not to keen on huge 1080 ti rigs but if that is your choice  I would combine the gear above and have at it.
Phil why are you not a fan of huge 1080 ti rigs?
I will look into the gear you mentioned, what are the max cards with that setup?

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September 07, 2017, 10:09:15 PM
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you must not have the right cpu miner

are you getting


xmr-stak-notl miner  to run?  from your nicehash down load?

@ rs1x

 trezor is what I like but I never tried a ledger
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apparently its mining just with 3 cores, thats why the low hashrate, but i dont know how to tweak its config with nicehash gui miner
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September 07, 2017, 10:34:34 PM
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you must not have the right cpu miner

are you getting


xmr-stak-notl miner  to run?  from your nicehash down load?

@ rs1x

 trezor is what I like but I never tried a ledger

apparently its mining just with 3 cores, thats why the low hashrate, but i dont know how to tweak its config with nicehash gui miner




what is your cpu again?

also  have you booted the pc since the download?

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I have all this gear .

I am not to keen on huge 1080 ti rigs but if that is your choice  I would combine the gear above and have at it.

I tested a few of these 2400W Deltas and ordered a boatload more from Parallel. To keep the fans quiet, I run two of these per 8x 1080 Ti rig at around 1,000W per PSU. Can't really hear them now.

http://www.parallelminer.com/product/2400-watt-power-supply-kit-for-gpu-mining-94-efficiency-200-240v-ethereum-eth-zec-dash/

PicoPSU they sell do work fine, but I soldered the wires to the breakout board directly in order to bypass that iffy connector.

Later I ordered ten picos from China on eBay at $12 e.a. and they seem to be the same model. Just arrived today after only 10 days in transit. www.ebay.com/itm/322652028210. Seller accepted my offer of $118, which is a good deal.

Here's one of the rigs designed to maximize natural airflow for cooling. Note that you can run this PSU with just one breakout board attached, so it is possible to order one full kit with cables and two boards and add one more bare PSU at $79.


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September 07, 2017, 10:55:54 PM
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you must not have the right cpu miner

are you getting


xmr-stak-notl miner  to run?  from your nicehash down load?

@ rs1x

 trezor is what I like but I never tried a ledger

apparently its mining just with 3 cores, thats why the low hashrate, but i dont know how to tweak its config with nicehash gui miner




what is your cpu again?

also  have you booted the pc since the download?

ryzen 1700 (non x), yes i have, same results
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September 07, 2017, 11:42:47 PM
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you must not have the right cpu miner

are you getting


xmr-stak-notl miner  to run?  from your nicehash down load?

@ rs1x

 trezor is what I like but I never tried a ledger

apparently its mining just with 3 cores, thats why the low hashrate, but i dont know how to tweak its config with nicehash gui miner




what is your cpu again?

also  have you booted the pc since the download?

ryzen 1700 (non x), yes i have, same results

not sure why it is doing 3 cores.

try  uninstalling the all the software from nice hash.

boot twice.



then install it again.

do not open it

boot twice

open it and click just the cpu

benchmark the cpu only

then try running it.

my gear is doing 8 cores.

I did have your issue and I uninstalled then booted twice then benchmarked  it did better then

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September 07, 2017, 11:44:32 PM
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 If that is the blower model and the cooling on the Asus 1080ti Turbo is as bad as on the 1070 version, I would avoid it.
 SERIOUS cooling limitations to that system largely but not entirely due to the severe airflow blockage of the mounting bracket - they might be WORSE than the Founder's Edition cards for cooling.

 Aorus 1080ti and the Gigabyte Windforce 3 fan models work well.
 Down side of the Aorus is the 3 card width - but for a riser-based mining rig that shouldn't be an issue.


I don't like the aorus 1080 ti  I sold the one I had.

I do like the asus turbo cools fine...

but I have open air rigs not closed case rigs

so I could see why we the the opposite.

 My Asus 1070 turbo is in an open rig.
 It runs way too hot even when I had it in an unblocked end slot for a short while during testing.
 Removing the end bracket helps a LOT (at least 5 degrees C cooler when it's not there blocking airflow), but it STILL runs hotter than any other 1070 model I've worked with.


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 If that is the blower model and the cooling on the Asus 1080ti Turbo is as bad as on the 1070 version, I would avoid it.
 SERIOUS cooling limitations to that system largely but not entirely due to the severe airflow blockage of the mounting bracket - they might be WORSE than the Founder's Edition cards for cooling.

 Aorus 1080ti and the Gigabyte Windforce 3 fan models work well.
 Down side of the Aorus is the 3 card width - but for a riser-based mining rig that shouldn't be an issue.


I don't like the aorus 1080 ti  I sold the one I had.

I do like the asus turbo cools fine...

but I have open air rigs not closed case rigs

so I could see why we the the opposite.

 My Asus 1070 turbo is in an open rig.
 It runs way too hot even when I had it in an unblocked end slot for a short while during testing.
 Removing the end bracket helps a LOT (at least 5 degrees C cooler when it's not there blocking airflow), but it STILL runs hotter than any other 1070 model I've worked with.



 well i have these


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126188

and you have these

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126112

and you and I are both correct.   Grin   the 1080 ti has   18 slots for venting the 1070 has 9




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September 08, 2017, 12:11:07 AM
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This is why I try to read both

Phil and Quint  they write a ton of good posts  and when they disagree  one or the other figures out what is wrong instead of playing

the nasty name calling games you see all over the net.

Thanks to both of you discussing the Asus turbo politely and civilly.  I looked up the 1080 turbo  it is wrong like the 1070 turbo

and the 1060 turbo is wrong  all three have the dvi socket and 1/2 the air vents
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Yeah I could not understand  why my gpu was fine and  Quint's was bad.  I found photos  of the 1080ti and the 1070 after reading theyankesswin I checked the

1080ti
1080
1070
1060   and the 1080ti  is the only one with 18 vent slots.






















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https://new.nicehash.com/miner/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr >>>>>>>> five 1080 ti's on zec

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September 08, 2017, 03:01:50 AM
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For those CPU mining, make sure you enable locked pages (requires Windows 10 Pro); it can give you ~15% or more better hashrate.  It's quite easy to do if you follow the directions in the link below.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms190730(v=sql.105).aspx


For CPU mining with NiceHash, under Additional Settings > Algorithms when you click on Cryptonight you will have an option on the right side to enter extra parameters. If it says "less threads 1" it will use 7 out of 8 cores etc.... more information in the link below.

https://github.com/nicehash/NiceHashMiner/wiki/Notes-and-hints-on-CPU-mining


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For those CPU mining, make sure you enable locked pages (requires Windows 10 Pro); it can give you ~15% or more better hashrate.  It's quite easy to do if you follow the directions in the link below.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms190730(v=sql.105).aspx


For CPU mining with NiceHash, under Additional Settings > Algorithms when you click on Cryptonight you will have an option on the right side to enter extra parameters. If it says "less threads 1" it will use 7 out of 8 cores etc.... more information in the link below.

https://github.com/nicehash/NiceHashMiner/wiki/Notes-and-hints-on-CPU-mining



I did this da  I forgot I did it.

That fucking group buy for avalon  made me forget.  sorry Embarrassed

but the less thread option  was missing on the new build  I did a nvidia 2.0.1.1

https://miner.nicehash.com/

the legacy build  is supposed to be not as good .

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you must not have the right cpu miner

are you getting


xmr-stak-notl miner  to run?  from your nicehash down load?

@ rs1x

 trezor is what I like but I never tried a ledger

apparently its mining just with 3 cores, thats why the low hashrate, but i dont know how to tweak its config with nicehash gui miner




what is your cpu again?

also  have you booted the pc since the download?

ryzen 1700 (non x), yes i have, same results

not sure why it is doing 3 cores.

try  uninstalling the all the software from nice hash.

boot twice.



then install it again.

do not open it

boot twice

open it and click just the cpu

benchmark the cpu only

then try running it.

my gear is doing 8 cores.

I did have your issue and I uninstalled then booted twice then benchmarked  it did better then

couldnt make it work, i will try with a fresh and clean install
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For those CPU mining, make sure you enable locked pages (requires Windows 10 Pro); it can give you ~15% or more better hashrate.  It's quite easy to do if you follow the directions in the link below.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms190730(v=sql.105).aspx


For CPU mining with NiceHash, under Additional Settings > Algorithms when you click on Cryptonight you will have an option on the right side to enter extra parameters. If it says "less threads 1" it will use 7 out of 8 cores etc.... more information in the link below.

https://github.com/nicehash/NiceHashMiner/wiki/Notes-and-hints-on-CPU-mining



I did this da  I forgot I did it.

That fucking group buy for avalon  made me forget.  sorry Embarrassed

but the less thread option  was missing on the new build  I did a nvidia 2.0.1.1

https://miner.nicehash.com/

the legacy build  is supposed to be not as good .


seems the problem got fixed by downloading nicehashs legacy miner, done 500 h/s @stock settings which looks like a better number

thank you phill & elder III
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What are you guys using for centralized monitoring and management?

I see awesomeminer and ethmonitor.

Any other options that might be cheaper?
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What are you guys using for centralized monitoring and management?

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I have all this gear .

I am not to keen on huge 1080 ti rigs but if that is your choice  I would combine the gear above and have at it.

I tested a few of these 2400W Deltas and ordered a boatload more from Parallel. To keep the fans quiet, I run two of these per 8x 1080 Ti rig at around 1,000W per PSU. Can't really hear them now.

http://www.parallelminer.com/product/2400-watt-power-supply-kit-for-gpu-mining-94-efficiency-200-240v-ethereum-eth-zec-dash/

PicoPSU they sell do work fine, but I soldered the wires to the breakout board directly in order to bypass that iffy connector.

Later I ordered ten picos from China on eBay at $12 e.a. and they seem to be the same model. Just arrived today after only 10 days in transit. www.ebay.com/itm/322652028210. Seller accepted my offer of $118, which is a good deal.

Here's one of the rigs designed to maximize natural airflow for cooling. Note that you can run this PSU with just one breakout board attached, so it is possible to order one full kit with cables and two boards and add one more bare PSU at $79.

-scsi

nice rig -scsi, I use alot of these Deltas for my 12/13 GPU mobos - I never have to worry about PSUs anymore.

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What are you guys using for centralized monitoring and management?

I see awesomeminer and ethmonitor.

Any other options that might be cheaper?

have you tried smOS?

see my sig

I run Windows miners due to the much better voltage/power control. Even setting the same tdp on nvOC vs Win10 has resulted in the windows box having measurably lower power. That includes adding a hard drive to run windows
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What are you guys using for centralized monitoring and management?

I see awesomeminer and ethmonitor.

Any other options that might be cheaper?

have you tried smOS?

see my sig

I run Windows miners due to the much better voltage/power control. Even setting the same tdp on nvOC vs Win10 has resulted in the windows box having measurably lower power. That includes adding a hard drive to run windows

in my pre-Linux days..... I was using AwesomeMiner and the tools ethpool provides etc. Android app and web dashboards.

For cost effectiveness -- then ethmonitoring / https://ethmonitoring.com/ is probably best for Windows.

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