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September 06, 2017, 01:37:18 AM
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Phil, would you buy a 1080ti for $700 usd?, tax and shipment  included and 12 month 0% interest financing with my credit card?

its the gigabyte gaming oc model, actualy one of the cheapest avaliable in mexico, for example an aouros is up to $1100 usd

edit: already mining with two 1070 and two 1060

usa prices below

well the aorus is 769
https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-AORUS-GeForce-Graphic-GV-N108TAORUS-11GD/dp/B06XXJMF19/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504655777&sr=8-1&keywords=aorus+1080+ti



the gaming is $709.99 usd

see below
 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125989&cm_re=gigabyte_1080_ti-_-14-125-989-_-Product


so  to me    i would grab the  gigabyte gaming   set it soft like  75% tdp

much better deal for you then the aorus
The gaming card is OOS right now unfortunately. If you browse r/buildapcsales on Reddit and set the bot to message you whenever a post for a 1080ti comes up you can snag very nice prices for GPUs there. IIRC at some California Fry's or Micro Center last week a refurb 1080ti sold for ~600 or 500

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September 06, 2017, 01:50:43 AM
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September 06, 2017, 05:17:15 AM
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He is in Mexico so I would guess he is buying at a different store.

He should buy that miner for the 700.

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September 06, 2017, 08:15:36 AM
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Phil, would you buy a 1080ti for $700 usd?, tax and shipment  included and 12 month 0% interest financing with my credit card?

its the gigabyte gaming oc model, actualy one of the cheapest avaliable in mexico, for example an aouros is up to $1100 usd

edit: already mining with two 1070 and two 1060

usa prices below

well the aorus is 769
https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-AORUS-GeForce-Graphic-GV-N108TAORUS-11GD/dp/B06XXJMF19/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504655777&sr=8-1&keywords=aorus+1080+ti


the gaming is $709.99 usd

see below
 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125989&cm_re=gigabyte_1080_ti-_-14-125-989-_-Product


so  to me    i would grab the  gigabyte gaming   set it soft like  75% tdp

much better deal for you then the aorus

 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125955 I believe is the Gaming version OP was talking about.

 That one is on sale sometimes around $700 (which is one of the best deals on a low-cost 1080ti when it IS on sale), clocks lower than the Aorus but it's 2-slot-width and not a LOT lower performance, while having a LOT better cooling than the "turbo" blower-type card you posted.


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September 06, 2017, 08:20:55 AM
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whats your opinion on gold vs plat

 I don't think plat is worth paying more than a VERY SMALL premium for, unless your electric rate per KWH is well above 10 cents.

 Best answer though - crunch the numbers and see HOW MANY years it would take for a 2% savings (typical Plat vs Gold efficiency gain) to pay the difference in the price of the Plat over the Gold.


 The only reasons I recently bought some Seasonic SS-860 plat supplies were (1) the GOLD supplies I normally buy are out of stock and no longer made (2) I haven't found ANY decent replacement at the gold level in current production since everyone seems to be moving to that garbage "Fluid Dynamic Bearing" sleeve-type JUNK fan design (3) the plats were on sale at the time.


 I'm to the point of refiguring my "normal build" with the aim to drop power draw enough to be able to run it comfortably on a 750 instead of an 850 - I can still get Seasonic G12 series units, at least for NOW....

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September 06, 2017, 08:23:21 AM
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Perhaps a bit off topic, but one of the reasons WHY I insist on positive pressure FILTERED air intake.

https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipMYI-7BPIY5hzhHjCLureej6CYygjzr42Gk3fI4

 The antenna towers you can BARELY SEE on top of the ridge in the picture are about 1 mile from my door - and the bloody sky is GREY today.

 FULL Moon last night was a rather ominous DARK orange (it should have been bright near-white), but the smoke got WORSE today.


The pic is giving me a 404 error, but based on the smoke you mentioned I'm guessing wildfires?  There are plenty of downsides to living in the NorthEast, but thankfully wildfires are pretty rare here.

 Nothing close except for one small fire about 30 miles upwind a couple weeks back, but pretty much ALL of Washington state (and Oregon and lots of California and Idaho and part of Montana) has been getting smoked out for large chunks of this summer due to massive wildfires all across the Western States and in British Columbia.

 Air quality was bad enough today I didn't set foot outside for more than about 1 minute total all day.
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September 06, 2017, 08:26:35 AM
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hi phil,

can you share latest images/pics of your ryzen water cooled mining rig? do you have it in an open air frame?
if so, where'd you put the radiators? are you using the rosewill platinum power supply? hows the power meter reading?

where else does one hunt online for 1080ti other than the stores below?:
amazon
b&h photo video
ebay
newegg

thanks.
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September 06, 2017, 12:07:52 PM
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hi phil,

can you share latest images/pics of your ryzen water cooled mining rig? do you have it in an open air frame?
if so, where'd you put the radiators? are you using the rosewill platinum power supply? hows the power meter reading?

where else does one hunt online for 1080ti other than the stores below?:
amazon
b&h photo video
ebay
newegg

thanks.

note the cpu cooler is over kill way better then needed

gear is a mess
but works well


one gpu
https://i.imgur.com/YssKeOb.jpg

two gpu
https://i.imgur.com/IQm1Yry.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mgto2Hh.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/UGjAoLI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kQ53b94.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8ZSipuN.jpg

places to buy below






https://www.superbiiz.com    they have a 10 off coupon

http://www.frys.com

https://jet.com

http://www.provantage.com/service/searchsvcs/Q/P2?QUERY=1080+ti

http://www.microcenter.com/

https://www.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=8&family=GeForce+10+Series+Family&chipset=GTX+1080+Ti





I am using this psu

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rosewill-Full-Modular-Gaming-Power-Supply-80-PLUS-TITANIUM-Certified-TOKAMAK-/291909426022?


550 watts

hashing numbers
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September 06, 2017, 12:35:05 PM
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Hey guys,

I see that Groestl or DMD is more profitable than ZEC for Nvidia Mining? I must specify that my cards are 6 x GTX1060 6GB. Is that true?
What's your miner recommendation?

Also, the settings for cards could be the same as for equihash mining? Or it does better on high mem clocks and lower core (like eth)?

Thanks,
John
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September 06, 2017, 01:20:51 PM
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thank you phil for the nice pics.

how about temperature readings of the cards and processor? and the OC settings you are running with?

are you adding a third or fourth water cooled card to your water cooled worker?

I found there are a lot of 1080ti cards that have 2 slots cooling setup here.

So for a riser-less build, is it really necessary to use gpus cooled by blowers or water?

Are all your rigs running blower type cards?

Do you have a favorite brand/model when it comes to 1080ti cards?


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September 06, 2017, 01:26:05 PM
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thank you phil for the nice pics.

how about temperature readings of the cards and processor? and the OC settings you are running with?

are you adding a third or fourth water cooled card to your water cooled worker?

I found there are a lot of 1080ti cards that have 2 slots cooling setup here.

So for a riser-less build, is it really necessary to use gpus cooled by blowers or water?

Are all your rigs running blower type cards?

Do you have a favorite brand/model when it comes to 1080ti cards?




the cards are 40c
the cpu is 35c

I have a 3 card build  here

Phil's rig DEMO VIDEO Link

Phil's 3x 1080ti rig configuration walkthru Link

Phil's 2x 1070 ZEC rig build / configuration / walkthru Link




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favorite cards  I will get back


The Evga water block are costly but they are now my favorite .

I like the Msi aero
I like the asus turbo
I like the pny turbo
I like the zotac mini as the third gpu in a riser less three card build,
I like all founder edition cards.

I did not like the aorus card I sold it.  It is very fat.

Most of my builds are open card card riser free.

I have built three closed case two card gamer/mining/working built pcs
They work well with founder edition cards.

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September 06, 2017, 02:21:47 PM
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https://www.amazon.com/COMeap-Express-Adapter-Braided-Y-splitter/dp/B072JR4H3N/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1504624588&sr=1-10&keywords=8+pin+pcie+cable

any problem using these to split a single 8 pin into a double 8 pin so that I can run a 1080 TI that requires 2x 8 pins
cards will only be receiving 200watts

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September 06, 2017, 02:51:46 PM
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whats your opinion on gold vs plat -- my electric bill is the bane of my existence lol

Go here:  https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator   Put in your info and it will tell you what size power supply will be best.  From there it will also tell you payoff times to pay extra for the more efficient options.
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September 06, 2017, 02:54:33 PM
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https://www.amazon.com/COMeap-Express-Adapter-Braided-Y-splitter/dp/B072JR4H3N/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1504624588&sr=1-10&keywords=8+pin+pcie+cable

any problem using these to split a single 8 pin into a double 8 pin so that I can run a 1080 TI that requires 2x 8 pins
cards will only be receiving 200watts

my nvoc0017 builds  do not like splitters  

my window builds seem to work  with splitters

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September 06, 2017, 04:06:10 PM
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hi phil,

your thoughts on the ryzen build below:
RYZEN 7 1700 + GIGABYTE GA-AB350-GAMING 3 = $381
ADATA XPG Z1 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4 = 70
Seasonic FOCUS Plus Series SSR-850FX 850W 80+ Gold = 110
3xASUS GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Turbo Edition Graphics Card  = 3 x 740
SanDisk Extreme 16 GB USB 3.0 Flash Drive = 20
2 x bgears b-Blaster 120 120mm Case Fan = 20
2 x Unique Bargains 2 Pcs 120mm 12cm Cooling Fan Guard Finger Grill = 11
Total = 2832

did I miss anything?

estimated daily income at current prices ~ 15
Breakeven ~ 189 days ~ 6 months 2 weeks

do you think the projected daily income is off?
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September 06, 2017, 04:33:50 PM
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https://www.amazon.com/COMeap-Express-Adapter-Braided-Y-splitter/dp/B072JR4H3N/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1504624588&sr=1-10&keywords=8+pin+pcie+cable

any problem using these to split a single 8 pin into a double 8 pin so that I can run a 1080 TI that requires 2x 8 pins
cards will only be receiving 200watts

my nvoc0017 builds  do not like splitters  

my window builds seem to work  with splitters

When you say they do not like splitters, what issue did you run into with them?

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September 06, 2017, 06:19:19 PM
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https://www.amazon.com/COMeap-Express-Adapter-Braided-Y-splitter/dp/B072JR4H3N/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1504624588&sr=1-10&keywords=8+pin+pcie+cable

any problem using these to split a single 8 pin into a double 8 pin so that I can run a 1080 TI that requires 2x 8 pins
cards will only be receiving 200watts

my nvoc0017 builds  do not like splitters  

my window builds seem to work  with splitters

When you say they do not like splitters, what issue did you run into with them?

the linux software  warns that  the cards are not powered correctly

does not happen with windows

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September 06, 2017, 06:44:56 PM
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https://www.amazon.com/COMeap-Express-Adapter-Braided-Y-splitter/dp/B072JR4H3N/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1504624588&sr=1-10&keywords=8+pin+pcie+cable

any problem using these to split a single 8 pin into a double 8 pin so that I can run a 1080 TI that requires 2x 8 pins
cards will only be receiving 200watts

my nvoc0017 builds  do not like splitters  

my window builds seem to work  with splitters

When you say they do not like splitters, what issue did you run into with them?

the linux software  warns that  the cards are not powered correctly

does not happen with windows
Did it give a warning and boot or give the warning and then require you to turn it off?

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September 06, 2017, 07:03:48 PM
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hi phil,

your thoughts on the ryzen build below:
RYZEN 7 1700 + GIGABYTE GA-AB350-GAMING 3 = $381
ADATA XPG Z1 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4 = 70
Seasonic FOCUS Plus Series SSR-850FX 850W 80+ Gold = 110
3xASUS GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Turbo Edition Graphics Card  = 3 x 740
SanDisk Extreme 16 GB USB 3.0 Flash Drive = 20
2 x bgears b-Blaster 120 120mm Case Fan = 20
2 x Unique Bargains 2 Pcs 120mm 12cm Cooling Fan Guard Finger Grill = 11
Total = 2832

did I miss anything?

estimated daily income at current prices ~ 15
Breakeven ~ 189 days ~ 6 months 2 weeks

do you think the projected daily income is off?

two things I think the income may be 13 not 15

I would buy 3 of these

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6178-RX 

 yeah hash is  3 x 480 = 1440  if  zcash  but price is 1380 for 3 cards 1070

hash is 3 x 700= 2100  if zcash   but price is   2220 for 3 cards 1080 ti  can you get the cards cheaper?

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September 06, 2017, 09:02:00 PM
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I found there are a lot of 1080ti cards that have 2 slots cooling setup here.

So for a riser-less build, is it really necessary to use gpus cooled by blowers or water?

Are all your rigs running blower type cards?

Do you have a favorite brand/model when it comes to 1080ti cards?


 I'm pretty sure there are only 3 basic "cards" (and some variations on those) that are 3-slot wide on the 1080ti.
 Gigabyte Aorus - which from personal experience is a MONSTER and cools very very well if you can give it space for the fans to access air.
 MSI .... spacing the name, it's their highest-end air-cooled card
 Zotac's highest-end card.

 Might be a couple I missed though.

 It's NOT needed to have water cooling or blowers in a 3-card build - they can be helpfull if you install your rigs in cases but there are SOME fan-cooled cards that also direct a significant amount of the airflow out the back of the card outside of the case - the Zotac Mini and Sapphire's "Nitro" series are good examples there.
 It IS very very helpfull for the "3'd card" to be a short card, like the Gigabyte ITX or MSI's Aero shortie, or a Zotac mini if your middle card is LONG, to let the middle card get enough air for cooling.
 If motherboard makers would SPACE THE BLOODY SLOTS OUT RIGHT that last wouldn't be an issue, but every single "3 PCI-E 16x slots" motherboard I've ever seen uses a 2-5-7 spacing which crams the last 2 cards too close together, instead of a SANE 1-4-7 spacing that would leave space for COOLING the middle card.

 I've got only 4 blower-type cards on hand at this time - a pair of Sapphire reference-type 470s (which are so-so on cooling), an Asus "Turbo" 1070 (which is BAD on cooling if you can't keep the air intake area COMPLETELY CLEAR due to the excessive blockage on the output metal bracket - the card turns into a "POOR" cooling card if you remove the bracket entirely), and an old HIS IceQ HD 7870 that's a "2.5 slot" card with a HUGE blower on it that stays very cool indeed.

 I've only got 2 1080 ti cards at this time:
Gigabyte 3-fan "Windforce" model, decent but not great cooling but 2 slots wide and CAN survive in the middle card slot if you have a VERY SHORT outside card - the Zotac does not work, the Gigabyte ITX does and the MSI super-shortie should also work.
 Gigabyte Aorus - VERY nice cooling but doesn't play well with other cards due to it's huge size, except probably in a riser rig setup with WIDE spacing.

 
 I just pulled the trigger on my next 2 "new" system builds - the Aorus along with a Ryzen and a big M.2 Ultra and probably one of the HDs from the current gaming system become the core of that, then the MB/RAM/CPU (AM3+ based) get used in my rationalization project grabbing the 3 GPUs from one of my existing FM2-based mining systems, then the AMD GPUs in the gaming system get used with that FM2 MB/APU/RAM to build a new dedicated MooWrapper system with.
 I'm not sure yet what I'm going to do with the MB that the 1080ti is currently in - it's the "failed experiment" Intel system I built a few months back, and I'm not sure if it would work with my pre-built "mining LINUX" setup (ignoring the iGPU on the G4600).



 EVGA has some very nice pricing going on right now on their B-list page - but check them against Newegg, sometimes Newegg will BETTER that pricing by a few dollars on "refurbished" card offers for the same parts, and EVGA doesn't accept BitCoin for payment.




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