[ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure

[yxt]

It was Most Profitable for the founders and CEO, you guys all got "scammed" and still don't realise it

[Thadeous]

It was Most Profitable for the founders and CEO, you guys all got "scammed" and still don't realise it

Officials will decide who's scammed and who's not.
So let's stop spreading "statements" and wait for FINMA final decisions.

[dishku]

It was Most Profitable for the founders and CEO, you guys all got "scammed" and still don't realise it

Officials will decide who's scammed and who's not.
So let's stop spreading "statements" and wait for FINMA final decisions.

How long we have to wait for this final decision because the founders are also doing the same job like CEO did. Nobody has the accurate info what is going on behind the scene and what plan they have to give relief to all investors because that stupid thing almost ruined the spirit of this project.

[BivanF]

the spirit off this project was already gone a long time ago , the team did not do enough to keep that spirit alive , i also invested a little but my hopes are at a minimum at the moment

[dr.cheema]

It was Most Profitable for the founders and CEO, you guys all got "scammed" and still don't realise it

Officials will decide who's scammed and who's not.
So let's stop spreading "statements" and wait for FINMA final decisions.

Yeah now i am silent and waiting for 'FINMA' final statement.
So do you know that when statement will be release by 'FINMA' ??

[crypto mania]

Is there any possibility for refund for people who paid with credit card???

You are too late to use this option to take refund it is more than 6 months has passed since this ICO was finished. But this is confirmed this is failed project when attractive whitepaper and only marketing made this possible to steal huge money from people.

this project is as dead as it can be, i wish I could say it wasn't but we have to face the facts. The founders screwed up too hard and now its broken beyond repair. Sad though, with mining costs going through the roof this project had a ton of potential

"confirmed this is failed project" - please share a few confirmations with us.
"project is as dead as it can be" - please share some facts.

I don't understand what you are doing @Thadeous? Do you try to defend Envion project? Why?

Is obvious that Envion is a scam. There are already court cases ongoing and FINMA started an investigation. If there will be no suspicions that this is a scam then there will be no courts involved and everybody will receive their tokens. Bounty is not paid, price crashed, token delisted from the biggest exchange, full of scammers ( founders, CEO). There is nothing left to defend.

Are you defending them or I get you wrong? Please explain.

[September11Myth]

Is there any possibility for refund for people who paid with credit card???

You are too late to use this option to take refund it is more than 6 months has passed since this ICO was finished. But this is confirmed this is failed project when attractive whitepaper and only marketing made this possible to steal huge money from people.

this project is as dead as it can be, i wish I could say it wasn't but we have to face the facts. The founders screwed up too hard and now its broken beyond repair. Sad though, with mining costs going through the roof this project had a ton of potential

"confirmed this is failed project" - please share a few confirmations with us.
"project is as dead as it can be" - please share some facts.

I don't understand what you are doing @Thadeous? Do you try to defend Envion project? Why?

Is obvious that Envion is a scam. There are already court cases ongoing and FINMA started an investigation. If there will be no suspicions that this is a scam then there will be no courts involved and everybody will receive their tokens. Bounty is not paid, price crashed, token delisted from the biggest exchange, full of scammers ( founders, CEO). There is nothing left to defend.

Are you defending them or I get you wrong? Please explain.

At the moment everything is stalled and nothing happens as far as the developement of the project is concerned. If this condition won't change, the project is dead. Just as it happens to living creatures. If they don't move for enough time this means they are dead. It is up to the project now to prove that it can eventually resurrect. Full stop.

[zahidmoon]

It was Most Profitable for the founders and CEO, you guys all got "scammed" and still don't realise it

Officials will decide who's scammed and who's not.
So let's stop spreading "statements" and wait for FINMA final decisions.

yes its now upto officials lets wait and see what is gonna happens
also there will be no bounty payments for bounty hunters
their work is ruined
but still hope for the ICO participants and after good decision participants could get back their money that they spent on envion ICO
every participant realise that they get scammed but they did not lose hope like me

[traveler007]

Seems this is was really scam. their last iupdate in twitter on May 20th. But why developers still not in prison? And how MarketCap in this bad market cost 8.5 mln usd in this scam? Who buying this? 

[dishku]

Seems this is was really scam. their last iupdate in twitter on May 20th. But why developers still not in prison? And how MarketCap in this bad market cost 8.5 mln usd in this scam? Who buying this? 

You should look over the trade volume and active exchanges at the moment in last 24 hours it has only $880 and Yobit is already marked as scam exchange. If you think there is potential to make comeback than you can take risk on this token maybe it will help you in long tern because now this is very risky investment so reward will be more higher if this could happen.

[chacha4twenty]

why envion disappeared from hitbtc exchange.. any body know about this??
envion founders still replying on telegram ?? if this is a scam then we will not see again envion on hitbtc ..
 

what ? this token disappeared from hitbtc are you serious ?
this is really serious issue with thus project
because in coinmarketcap the last updates of env at hitbtc is about 296 hours ago

em serious!! envion and other tokens disappeared  from hitbtc..
coinmarketcap showing in markets portal but not showing 24h volume ,,, very low volume..

That's why I mentioned that HitBTC issue has nothing to do with Envion.

By the way, Envion (EVN) still trades on Token.store and Yobit:
https://token.store/trade/EVN
https://yobit.net/en/trade/EVN/BTC

nobody buying envion token....there is only 24h volume $1,425 USD...
and price is also decreasing... if we have enough money then we can spend money on envion...
i bought envion month ago i made enough profit and i will try to buy again envion.. 

[MiBambino]

why envion disappeared from hitbtc exchange.. any body know about this??
envion founders still replying on telegram ?? if this is a scam then we will not see again envion on hitbtc ..
 

what ? this token disappeared from hitbtc are you serious ?
this is really serious issue with thus project
because in coinmarketcap the last updates of env at hitbtc is about 296 hours ago

em serious!! envion and other tokens disappeared  from hitbtc..
coinmarketcap showing in markets portal but not showing 24h volume ,,, very low volume..

That's why I mentioned that HitBTC issue has nothing to do with Envion.

By the way, Envion (EVN) still trades on Token.store and Yobit:
https://token.store/trade/EVN
https://yobit.net/en/trade/EVN/BTC

nobody buying envion token....there is only 24h volume $1,425 USD...
and price is also decreasing... if we have enough money then we can spend money on envion...
i bought envion month ago i made enough profit and i will try to buy again envion.. 

why would you buy tokens from a project thats technically already confirmed dead? The founders are pretty much gone, and the tokens are virtually worthless

[Thadeous]

Is there any possibility for refund for people who paid with credit card???

You are too late to use this option to take refund it is more than 6 months has passed since this ICO was finished. But this is confirmed this is failed project when attractive whitepaper and only marketing made this possible to steal huge money from people.

this project is as dead as it can be, i wish I could say it wasn't but we have to face the facts. The founders screwed up too hard and now its broken beyond repair. Sad though, with mining costs going through the roof this project had a ton of potential

"confirmed this is failed project" - please share a few confirmations with us.
"project is as dead as it can be" - please share some facts.

I don't understand what you are doing @Thadeous? Do you try to defend Envion project? Why?

Is obvious that Envion is a scam. There are already court cases ongoing and FINMA started an investigation. If there will be no suspicions that this is a scam then there will be no courts involved and everybody will receive their tokens. Bounty is not paid, price crashed, token delisted from the biggest exchange, full of scammers ( founders, CEO). There is nothing left to defend.

Are you defending them or I get you wrong? Please explain.

It's simple: I hate when people spread false statements without proofs.
Personally I think that Envion is a perspective project and hope that founders will win the final battle and be able to continue developing Envion.

[wwzsocki]

Is there any possibility for refund for people who paid with credit card???

You are too late to use this option to take refund it is more than 6 months has passed since this ICO was finished. But this is confirmed this is failed project when attractive whitepaper and only marketing made this possible to steal huge money from people.

this project is as dead as it can be, i wish I could say it wasn't but we have to face the facts. The founders screwed up too hard and now its broken beyond repair. Sad though, with mining costs going through the roof this project had a ton of potential

"confirmed this is failed project" - please share a few confirmations with us.
"project is as dead as it can be" - please share some facts.

I don't understand what you are doing @Thadeous? Do you try to defend Envion project? Why?

Is obvious that Envion is a scam. There are already court cases ongoing and FINMA started an investigation. If there will be no suspicions that this is a scam then there will be no courts involved and everybody will receive their tokens. Bounty is not paid, price crashed, token delisted from the biggest exchange, full of scammers ( founders, CEO). There is nothing left to defend.

Are you defending them or I get you wrong? Please explain.

It's simple: I hate when people spread false statements without proofs.
Personally I think that Envion is a perspective project and hope that founders will win the final battle and be able to continue developing Envion.

I wanted to hear your opinion about Envion too because I see your comments and you are an Envion supporter.

Do you still believe the Founders? Will you that they run this company further? Are they trustworthy?

They lied to us, changed the contract illegally, sold tokens which were in fasting period closed and there are many more accusations against them.

[traveler007]

Seems this is was really scam. their last iupdate in twitter on May 20th. But why developers still not in prison? And how MarketCap in this bad market cost 8.5 mln usd in this scam? Who buying this? 

You should look over the trade volume and active exchanges at the moment in last 24 hours it has only $880 and Yobit is already marked as scam exchange. If you think there is potential to make comeback than you can take risk on this token maybe it will help you in long tern because now this is very risky investment so reward will be more higher if this could happen.

I dont think so. There are a lot of promising and real project which even have more low cap right now. Im just confuse why they have so big cap.

[Thadeous]

Is there any possibility for refund for people who paid with credit card???

You are too late to use this option to take refund it is more than 6 months has passed since this ICO was finished. But this is confirmed this is failed project when attractive whitepaper and only marketing made this possible to steal huge money from people.

this project is as dead as it can be, i wish I could say it wasn't but we have to face the facts. The founders screwed up too hard and now its broken beyond repair. Sad though, with mining costs going through the roof this project had a ton of potential

"confirmed this is failed project" - please share a few confirmations with us.
"project is as dead as it can be" - please share some facts.

I don't understand what you are doing @Thadeous? Do you try to defend Envion project? Why?

Is obvious that Envion is a scam. There are already court cases ongoing and FINMA started an investigation. If there will be no suspicions that this is a scam then there will be no courts involved and everybody will receive their tokens. Bounty is not paid, price crashed, token delisted from the biggest exchange, full of scammers ( founders, CEO). There is nothing left to defend.

Are you defending them or I get you wrong? Please explain.

It's simple: I hate when people spread false statements without proofs.
Personally I think that Envion is a perspective project and hope that founders will win the final battle and be able to continue developing Envion.

I wanted to hear your opinion about Envion too because I see your comments and you are an Envion supporter.

Do you still believe the Founders? Will you that they run this company further? Are they trustworthy?

They lied to us, changed the contract illegally, sold tokens which were in fasting period closed and there are many more accusations against them.

Founders avoid any comments before FINMA investigation is over and it's obvious why they do.
As for me, I realize that investigation may take months, but I'm still sure that founders team will fight for the project till the very end.

Concerning tokens sold, here is what Laurent says:

"There was a policy not to sell for the founding team tokens.
That policy changed in order to save the company. Those tokens had to be sold when Envion's debts caused an existential crisis. This was done according to consultations with Envion's legal team and in compliance with financial regulations."

[wwzsocki]

Is there any possibility for refund for people who paid with credit card???

You are too late to use this option to take refund it is more than 6 months has passed since this ICO was finished. But this is confirmed this is failed project when attractive whitepaper and only marketing made this possible to steal huge money from people.

this project is as dead as it can be, i wish I could say it wasn't but we have to face the facts. The founders screwed up too hard and now its broken beyond repair. Sad though, with mining costs going through the roof this project had a ton of potential

"confirmed this is failed project" - please share a few confirmations with us.
"project is as dead as it can be" - please share some facts.

I don't understand what you are doing @Thadeous? Do you try to defend Envion project? Why?

Is obvious that Envion is a scam. There are already court cases ongoing and FINMA started an investigation. If there will be no suspicions that this is a scam then there will be no courts involved and everybody will receive their tokens. Bounty is not paid, price crashed, token delisted from the biggest exchange, full of scammers ( founders, CEO). There is nothing left to defend.

Are you defending them or I get you wrong? Please explain.

It's simple: I hate when people spread false statements without proofs.
Personally I think that Envion is a perspective project and hope that founders will win the final battle and be able to continue developing Envion.

I wanted to hear your opinion about Envion too because I see your comments and you are an Envion supporter.

Do you still believe the Founders? Will you that they run this company further? Are they trustworthy?

They lied to us, changed the contract illegally, sold tokens which were in fasting period closed and there are many more accusations against them.

Founders avoid any comments before FINMA investigation is over and it's obvious why they do.
As for me, I realize that investigation may take months, but I'm still sure that founders team will fight for the project till the very end.

Concerning tokens sold, here is what Laurent says:

"There was a policy not to sell for the founding team tokens.
That policy changed in order to save the company. Those tokens had to be sold when Envion's debts caused an existential crisis. This was done according to consultations with Envion's legal team and in compliance with financial regulations."

From what I understand this is the explanation provided after community finds all about CEO problems and founders sold their tokens which should be closed for a half year.

If this explanation is true why they lie to us for so long?

When we asked about dumped tokens they told us that they don't know who is selling. People provided back then in Telegram group addresses and tx from transactions which shows exactly that these tokens are from founders and sold illegally before fasting period end. They banned this guy and deleted all posts. Now they are coming with new explanations each day.

Where were they in the first 5 months? Why they lied so long?  

I just can't believe that you trust them further. Tell me why?

[Thadeous]

Is there any possibility for refund for people who paid with credit card???

You are too late to use this option to take refund it is more than 6 months has passed since this ICO was finished. But this is confirmed this is failed project when attractive whitepaper and only marketing made this possible to steal huge money from people.

this project is as dead as it can be, i wish I could say it wasn't but we have to face the facts. The founders screwed up too hard and now its broken beyond repair. Sad though, with mining costs going through the roof this project had a ton of potential

"confirmed this is failed project" - please share a few confirmations with us.
"project is as dead as it can be" - please share some facts.

I don't understand what you are doing @Thadeous? Do you try to defend Envion project? Why?

Is obvious that Envion is a scam. There are already court cases ongoing and FINMA started an investigation. If there will be no suspicions that this is a scam then there will be no courts involved and everybody will receive their tokens. Bounty is not paid, price crashed, token delisted from the biggest exchange, full of scammers ( founders, CEO). There is nothing left to defend.

Are you defending them or I get you wrong? Please explain.

It's simple: I hate when people spread false statements without proofs.
Personally I think that Envion is a perspective project and hope that founders will win the final battle and be able to continue developing Envion.

I wanted to hear your opinion about Envion too because I see your comments and you are an Envion supporter.

Do you still believe the Founders? Will you that they run this company further? Are they trustworthy?

They lied to us, changed the contract illegally, sold tokens which were in fasting period closed and there are many more accusations against them.

Founders avoid any comments before FINMA investigation is over and it's obvious why they do.
As for me, I realize that investigation may take months, but I'm still sure that founders team will fight for the project till the very end.

Concerning tokens sold, here is what Laurent says:

"There was a policy not to sell for the founding team tokens.
That policy changed in order to save the company. Those tokens had to be sold when Envion's debts caused an existential crisis. This was done according to consultations with Envion's legal team and in compliance with financial regulations."

From what I understand this is the explanation provided after community finds all about CEO problems and founders sold their tokens which should be closed for a half year.

If this explanation is true why they lie to us for so long?

When we asked about dumped tokens they told us that they don't know who is selling. People provided back then in Telegram group addresses and tx from transactions which shows exactly that these tokens are from founders and sold illegally before fasting period end. They banned this guy and deleted all posts. Now they are coming with new explanations each day.

Where were they in the first 5 months? Why they lied so long?  

I just can't believe that you trust them further. Tell me why?

I think the best place to find answers for all your questions is https://t.me/EnvionFounders

As for me, after tracking hundreds of ICOs since the beginning of 2018 I'm still sure that Envoin holds top position among them.

[marketone]

Is there any possibility for refund for people who paid with credit card???

You are too late to use this option to take refund it is more than 6 months has passed since this ICO was finished. But this is confirmed this is failed project when attractive whitepaper and only marketing made this possible to steal huge money from people.

this project is as dead as it can be, i wish I could say it wasn't but we have to face the facts. The founders screwed up too hard and now its broken beyond repair. Sad though, with mining costs going through the roof this project had a ton of potential

"confirmed this is failed project" - please share a few confirmations with us.
"project is as dead as it can be" - please share some facts.

I don't understand what you are doing @Thadeous? Do you try to defend Envion project? Why?

Is obvious that Envion is a scam. There are already court cases ongoing and FINMA started an investigation. If there will be no suspicions that this is a scam then there will be no courts involved and everybody will receive their tokens. Bounty is not paid, price crashed, token delisted from the biggest exchange, full of scammers ( founders, CEO). There is nothing left to defend.

Are you defending them or I get you wrong? Please explain.

It's simple: I hate when people spread false statements without proofs.
Personally I think that Envion is a perspective project and hope that founders will win the final battle and be able to continue developing Envion.

I wanted to hear your opinion about Envion too because I see your comments and you are an Envion supporter.

Do you still believe the Founders? Will you that they run this company further? Are they trustworthy?

They lied to us, changed the contract illegally, sold tokens which were in fasting period closed and there are many more accusations against them.

Founders avoid any comments before FINMA investigation is over and it's obvious why they do.
As for me, I realize that investigation may take months, but I'm still sure that founders team will fight for the project till the very end.

Concerning tokens sold, here is what Laurent says:

"There was a policy not to sell for the founding team tokens.
That policy changed in order to save the company. Those tokens had to be sold when Envion's debts caused an existential crisis. This was done according to consultations with Envion's legal team and in compliance with financial regulations."

From what I understand this is the explanation provided after community finds all about CEO problems and founders sold their tokens which should be closed for a half year.

If this explanation is true why they lie to us for so long?

When we asked about dumped tokens they told us that they don't know who is selling. People provided back then in Telegram group addresses and tx from transactions which shows exactly that these tokens are from founders and sold illegally before fasting period end. They banned this guy and deleted all posts. Now they are coming with new explanations each day.

Where were they in the first 5 months? Why they lied so long?  

I just can't believe that you trust them further. Tell me why?

I think the best place to find answers for all your questions is https://t.me/EnvionFounders

As for me, after tracking hundreds of ICOs since the beginning of 2018 I'm still sure that Envoin holds top position among them.

Whether they overcome the issues with law suits filed on them, what is happening in the background we are not getting any updates because even they are not bothering about the payments to bounty people and till now the spreadsheet is not yet updated?

[sluppy]

Is there any possibility for refund for people who paid with credit card???

You are too late to use this option to take refund it is more than 6 months has passed since this ICO was finished. But this is confirmed this is failed project when attractive whitepaper and only marketing made this possible to steal huge money from people.

this project is as dead as it can be, i wish I could say it wasn't but we have to face the facts. The founders screwed up too hard and now its broken beyond repair. Sad though, with mining costs going through the roof this project had a ton of potential

"confirmed this is failed project" - please share a few confirmations with us.
"project is as dead as it can be" - please share some facts.

I don't understand what you are doing @Thadeous? Do you try to defend Envion project? Why?

Is obvious that Envion is a scam. There are already court cases ongoing and FINMA started an investigation. If there will be no suspicions that this is a scam then there will be no courts involved and everybody will receive their tokens. Bounty is not paid, price crashed, token delisted from the biggest exchange, full of scammers ( founders, CEO). There is nothing left to defend.

Are you defending them or I get you wrong? Please explain.

It's simple: I hate when people spread false statements without proofs.
Personally I think that Envion is a perspective project and hope that founders will win the final battle and be able to continue developing Envion.

I wanted to hear your opinion about Envion too because I see your comments and you are an Envion supporter.

Do you still believe the Founders? Will you that they run this company further? Are they trustworthy?

They lied to us, changed the contract illegally, sold tokens which were in fasting period closed and there are many more accusations against them.

Founders avoid any comments before FINMA investigation is over and it's obvious why they do.
As for me, I realize that investigation may take months, but I'm still sure that founders team will fight for the project till the very end.

Concerning tokens sold, here is what Laurent says:

"There was a policy not to sell for the founding team tokens.
That policy changed in order to save the company. Those tokens had to be sold when Envion's debts caused an existential crisis. This was done according to consultations with Envion's legal team and in compliance with financial regulations."

From what I understand this is the explanation provided after community finds all about CEO problems and founders sold their tokens which should be closed for a half year.

If this explanation is true why they lie to us for so long?

When we asked about dumped tokens they told us that they don't know who is selling. People provided back then in Telegram group addresses and tx from transactions which shows exactly that these tokens are from founders and sold illegally before fasting period end. They banned this guy and deleted all posts. Now they are coming with new explanations each day.

Where were they in the first 5 months? Why they lied so long?  

I just can't believe that you trust them further. Tell me why?

prob a shill.

But its worse then you think apperantly the Founders can see the future because those changes to the contract that enabled them to sell their tokens where made long before the problems started.