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September 28, 2018, 12:39:02 PM |
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Wow... WTF Now we have to wait for how long??? It is not fer to investors...
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Thadeous
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Wow... WTF Now we have to wait for how long??? It is not fer to investors...
Contact FINMA and ask them. You can find all official contacts on the website. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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September 28, 2018, 05:56:35 PM |
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Thank you Thadeous for this update about Finma case. I was looking for some new info about this court case and proceedings. of course as always in such a cases everything is postponed because they need more details and a second look. Hopefully, Finma will finally speed up this process a little and in a few months, we will see the outcome. I know that Envion as a business is over and only hope to get some of my invested money back.
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September 28, 2018, 11:57:41 PM |
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Many investors lost money on this project and this is very sad about it. I Wish this project will start to make some develop soon or later.
Yes, this is very true about investors in Envion project, but in the same time this is very true with more and more other crypto projects.
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September 29, 2018, 01:10:35 AM |
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Many investors lost money on this project and this is very sad about it. I Wish this project will start to make some develop soon or later.
Thankfully i invested an amount i can afford to lose and ever since the troubles started i just assumed i had lost everything. It seems it will be a very difficult battle for them to regain their reputation after all this mess that followed after the ICO
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September 29, 2018, 07:42:35 PM |
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Many investors lost money on this project and this is very sad about it. I Wish this project will start to make some develop soon or later.
Thankfully i invested an amount i can afford to lose and ever since the troubles started i just assumed i had lost everything. It seems it will be a very difficult battle for them to regain their reputation after all this mess that followed after the ICO Well FINMA still proceeding envion case and let's see what happens next, maybe investors will get refund or maybe founders still want to run this project.
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September 29, 2018, 10:01:14 PM |
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Many investors lost money on this project and this is very sad about it. I Wish this project will start to make some develop soon or later.
Thankfully i invested an amount i can afford to lose and ever since the troubles started i just assumed i had lost everything. It seems it will be a very difficult battle for them to regain their reputation after all this mess that followed after the ICO Well FINMA still proceeding envion case and let's see what happens next, maybe investors will get refund or maybe founders still want to run this project. It is unlikely that the Envion project will be stopped by all these processes, but there are still chances even if it is very small for investors to get back the invested amounts.
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September 29, 2018, 11:11:25 PM |
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Many investors lost money on this project and this is very sad about it. I Wish this project will start to make some develop soon or later.
Thankfully i invested an amount i can afford to lose and ever since the troubles started i just assumed i had lost everything. It seems it will be a very difficult battle for them to regain their reputation after all this mess that followed after the ICO Well FINMA still proceeding envion case and let's see what happens next, maybe investors will get refund or maybe founders still want to run this project. It is unlikely that the Envion project will be stopped by all these processes, but there are still chances even if it is very small for investors to get back the invested amounts. What your saying makes No sense Either u think that Envion project Will be stopped and investors will get some money back .. Or you think it will go on and the investors will get Paid a decent amount over time.(especially the people that bought for peanuts when the market crashed.) So wich is it ?
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September 30, 2018, 06:31:08 PM |
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I remember when people used to say "but they are from Swiss/Germany..." like to say that it means automatically to trust of them without doubts...
People that scammed more than 100 millions of dollars with this ico should be founded and destroied of kicks till they wont have force to breathe. They deserve very strong revenge.
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September 30, 2018, 09:16:00 PM |
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I remember when people used to say "but they are from Swiss/Germany..." like to say that it means automatically to trust of them without doubts...
People that scammed more than 100 millions of dollars with this ico should be founded and destroied of kicks till they wont have force to breathe. They deserve very strong revenge.
I have read/heard of a group of people, who have the very same idea about revenge. They are lobbying about it, putting some money together and taking serious steps to locate those that are responsible for this scam. Let me tell you this, I really am against violence. However, if you scam people you should know there are ofcourse some consequences. Disclaimer: I am not responsible for any future harm that is maybe going to happen to anyone. I just came to know about this rumor and quite frankly I believe it.
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October 01, 2018, 08:44:22 AM |
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You have pointed out very interesting fact which actually motivated people to go for this project to invest in it. Majority of people trusted them because of their origin and thought they are serious people but after this experience they will look differently. When it is about putting your money in hands of someone judge them based on their qualities and facts not from their county or origin. There were many lessons to learn from this project for everyone including for the team.
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October 04, 2018, 09:53:24 AM |
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I keep coming back every few weeks to read the latest updates about court cases. Especially I am interested in the Finma court ruling but from what I see is postponed again.
Do you know what the reason was for Finma to delay this case?
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October 04, 2018, 09:58:59 AM |
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I keep coming back every few weeks to read the latest updates about court cases. Especially I am interested in the Finma court ruling but from what I see is postponed again.
Do you know what the reason was for Finma to delay this case?
It is all about big money which is involve in this project I don't have good hope about the future of this project. This is pure scam and investors have been lost their money nobody will get recover nothing.
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October 04, 2018, 12:07:02 PM |
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I keep coming back every few weeks to read the latest updates about court cases. Especially I am interested in the Finma court ruling but from what I see is postponed again.
Do you know what the reason was for Finma to delay this case?
It is all about big money which is involve in this project I don't have good hope about the future of this project. This is pure scam and investors have been lost their money nobody will get recover nothing. How do you mean "nobody will get recover nothing" ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Money is there... Who will get money then???
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October 05, 2018, 04:07:15 AM |
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I keep coming back every few weeks to read the latest updates about court cases. Especially I am interested in the Finma court ruling but from what I see is postponed again.
Do you know what the reason was for Finma to delay this case?
It is all about big money which is involve in this project I don't have good hope about the future of this project. This is pure scam and investors have been lost their money nobody will get recover nothing. How do you mean "nobody will get recover nothing" ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Money is there... Who will get money then??? any news about envion project future planing from the team ? day by day hopes are dying with investors money but court cases are postponing when the case will be done and final decision will be made about the project. i think nobody will get recover nothing until the case will be solved and decision will be made
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October 05, 2018, 04:51:45 AM |
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I keep coming back every few weeks to read the latest updates about court cases. Especially I am interested in the Finma court ruling but from what I see is postponed again.
Do you know what the reason was for Finma to delay this case?
It is all about big money which is involve in this project I don't have good hope about the future of this project. This is pure scam and investors have been lost their money nobody will get recover nothing. How do you mean "nobody will get recover nothing" ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Money is there... Who will get money then??? any news about envion project future planing from the team ? day by day hopes are dying with investors money but court cases are postponing when the case will be done and final decision will be made about the project. i think nobody will get recover nothing until the case will be solved and decision will be made court case is still going on i thought that case is finished and court made final decision about who sold illegally envion tokens now it means their is still chances that envion could stand after court final decision and there are more then 100 million$ of investors. if project dead then investors should get their money back or project should start develop
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October 05, 2018, 07:42:06 AM |
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I keep coming back every few weeks to read the latest updates about court cases. Especially I am interested in the Finma court ruling but from what I see is postponed again.
Do you know what the reason was for Finma to delay this case?
It is all about big money which is involve in this project I don't have good hope about the future of this project. This is pure scam and investors have been lost their money nobody will get recover nothing. How do you mean "nobody will get recover nothing" ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Money is there... Who will get money then??? any news about envion project future planing from the team ? day by day hopes are dying with investors money but court cases are postponing when the case will be done and final decision will be made about the project. i think nobody will get recover nothing until the case will be solved and decision will be made court case is still going on i thought that case is finished and court made final decision about who sold illegally envion tokens now it means their is still chances that envion could stand after court final decision and there are more then 100 million$ of investors. if project dead then investors should get their money back or project should start develop Someone already arrested? I want to know who from the team is still hiding and who is already waiting for a court sentence. Lynching here would be appropriate ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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October 05, 2018, 09:44:06 PM |
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I keep coming back every few weeks to read the latest updates about court cases. Especially I am interested in the Finma court ruling but from what I see is postponed again.
Do you know what the reason was for Finma to delay this case?
It is all about big money which is involve in this project I don't have good hope about the future of this project. This is pure scam and investors have been lost their money nobody will get recover nothing. How do you mean "nobody will get recover nothing" ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Money is there... Who will get money then??? Yeah, where exactly IS the money? Have they moved or converted to fiat any of the ETH yet? And how much Fiat-money is left?
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October 10, 2018, 10:36:39 AM |
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How do you mean "nobody will get recover nothing" ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Money is there... Who will get money then??? Yeah, where exactly IS the money? Have they moved or converted to fiat any of the ETH yet? And how much Fiat-money is left? As far as I know ICO funds are still locked, probably by FINMA or other authority. That's why team had to sell part of their EVN tokens to cover all those court expenses. I keep coming back every few weeks to read the latest updates about court cases. Especially I am interested in the Finma court ruling but from what I see is postponed again.
Do you know what the reason was for Finma to delay this case?
I think it's better to ask FINMA directly, you can find all contact on their web site. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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October 10, 2018, 10:49:52 AM |
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How do you mean "nobody will get recover nothing" ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Money is there... Who will get money then??? Yeah, where exactly IS the money? Have they moved or converted to fiat any of the ETH yet? And how much Fiat-money is left? As far as I know ICO funds are still locked, probably by FINMA or other authority. That's why team had to sell part of their EVN tokens to cover all those court expenses. I keep coming back every few weeks to read the latest updates about court cases. Especially I am interested in the Finma court ruling but from what I see is postponed again.
Do you know what the reason was for Finma to delay this case?
I think it's better to ask FINMA directly, you can find all contact on their web site. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Any money still available will be used to pay their debts, legal fees, maybe bailout money, and VC investors
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