ASICMINER Speculation Thread

[velacreations]

It pains me to see your AM value melt away, but your false hope can't help you. No one in their right mind is going to buy into a steadily declining stock with the hopes of a temporary div increase. There is only one thing that can stop the decline.

while you were typing this, the price went up...

And for the record I never said I or anyone else for that matter would get rich from Labcoin.

no, you would say things to pump the price or make people dump to your advantage.  So, like I said, nothing you say holds any credibility.  You're a pumper/dumper.

[limbaugh]

Woot, we are about to exit the .3's! Please fasten your seatbelt!

[limbaugh]

By exiting the .3's you mean entering the .2's?

Yep a couple of mini walls and it's free fall again.

[bigdude]

By exiting the .3's you mean entering the .2's?

You mean entering the .1's

[jimmothy]

Anyone else notice the massive buy walls on havelock right after the supposed price crashes? Possible price manipulation or panic selling?

[ujka]

Now the bids are going up! What, the sale is over?

[bitcoin.newsfeed]

Anyone else notice the massive buy walls on havelock right after the supposed price crashes? Possible price manipulation or panic selling?

Yes, and I noticed guys "limbaugh" & "bigdude" and others spamming FUD in AM threads, I never saw them here before participating in discussion ... so obvious price manipulation 

[bigdude]

Anyone else notice the massive buy walls on havelock right after the supposed price crashes? Possible price manipulation or panic selling?

probably a bit of both

[bbxx]

https://blockchain.info/pl/blocks/ASICMiner

270677 (Główny łańcuch)    2013-11-20 22:54:32    0000000000000005180af273e37238d5ba6635fa5b3e40421fcd373818f160d2
270660 (Główny łańcuch)    2013-11-20 20:35:45    0000000000000002c34fee5a293f437e053d3f5944ea3fd0b19ccb0f539d139c
270616 (Główny łańcuch)    2013-11-20 14:12:43    0000000000000003887279c0e89b994af3733911a774b6750064158ba5b40f41
270573 (Główny łańcuch)    2013-11-20 07:12:06    00000000000000057f124916e87fee0c7c5158f6395dba4830806644d91bada7
270531 (Główny łańcuch)    2013-11-20 01:38:52    0000000000000003bdab645a3efb313c74d3ef16a7d6b425687054cb82e0d5b9

not bad
hashrate is going up

[bitcoin.newsfeed]

https://blockchain.info/pl/blocks/ASICMiner

270677 (Główny łańcuch)    2013-11-20 22:54:32    0000000000000005180af273e37238d5ba6635fa5b3e40421fcd373818f160d2
270660 (Główny łańcuch)    2013-11-20 20:35:45    0000000000000002c34fee5a293f437e053d3f5944ea3fd0b19ccb0f539d139c
270616 (Główny łańcuch)    2013-11-20 14:12:43    0000000000000003887279c0e89b994af3733911a774b6750064158ba5b40f41
270573 (Główny łańcuch)    2013-11-20 07:12:06    00000000000000057f124916e87fee0c7c5158f6395dba4830806644d91bada7
270531 (Główny łańcuch)    2013-11-20 01:38:52    0000000000000003bdab645a3efb313c74d3ef16a7d6b425687054cb82e0d5b9

not bad
hashrate is going up

I saw something similar ~2weeks ago ... 7 blocks in few hours ... then again 0-3/day, just wait if this last for at least 2 days.

btw CUBEs are sold out  

SOLD OUT.

I assume that Canary had 100 CUBEs in this group buy, sold out in 24hours.

[Vycid]

Hey guys, how've things been?

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[Elokane]

Hey guys, how've things been?

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So what's your current buying price?

[Vycid]

Hey guys, how've things been?

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So what's your current buying price?

My PT from a couple months back was 0.3 BTC, but I'm sitting out for now because of the lack of information, and because there is no indication that the value of the company has kept pace with the value of a bitcoin. Certainly immersion cooling solutions don't keep pace with bitcoin.

I am not a buyer above 0.1 right now.

[jimmothy]

Hey guys, how've things been?

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So what's your current buying price?

My PT from a couple months back was 0.3 BTC, but I'm sitting out for now because of the lack of information, and because there is no indication that the value of the company has kept pace with the value of a bitcoin. Certainly immersion cooling solutions don't keep pace with bitcoin.

I am not a buyer above 0.1 right now.

less FUD please

[Vycid]

less FUD please

OK, Friedcat hasn't said anything about next gen because the Silicon Elves have sworn him to secrecy. They don't want anyone to know about their magicsparkle ultra-hasher until it's ready to ship. Microchip Santa is particular like that.

The balance sheet from October actually had typos in it, shareholder's equity is 0.05854BTC a share, not 0.005854BTC.

3M is going to be so impressed by Friedcat's cooling solution that they're going to stop selling their own immersion cooling products and start using his to mine Bitcoins, and they're going to use an exchange rate of $130/BTC forever.

And look on the bright side! The company is still worth 88 million USD.

Better?

[freedomno1]

less FUD please

OK, Friedcat hasn't said anything about next gen because the Silicon Elves have sworn him to secrecy. They don't want anyone to know about their magicsparkle ultra-hasher until it's ready to ship. Microchip Santa is particular like that.

The balance sheet from October actually had typos in it, shareholder's equity is 0.05854BTC a share, not 0.005854BTC.

3M is going to be so impressed by Friedcat's cooling solution that they're going to stop selling their own immersion cooling products and start using his to mine Bitcoins, and they're going to use an exchange rate of $130/BTC forever.

And look on the bright side! The company is still worth 88 million USD.

Better?

Well we are in speculation this is more than acceptable

[stripykitteh]

less FUD please

Ah, the best way of reducing that would be if friedcat gave an update! None of us who aren't on the board can say with certainty how advanced Asicminer's various projects are. I mean, the difference between FC saying "40nm chips are being fabbed now, first batches due in 2 weeks" and "we still have issues to sort out with the 40nm chips and we hope to place an order with a fab next month" are significant.

The other thing Vycid pointed out is that the value of a company measured in bitcoin needn't automatically scale with the appreciation in the value of bitcoin. Bitcoin mining has just become a whole lot more lucrative, which means more competition.

I took a punt and have taken a small position in an information vacuum; I guess I'm an optimist. I think there's a good chance Asicminer can deliver their shipping container solution and have several months where they are again the 800-pound gorilla of mining. Of course the competition will come after them but it will go on for long enough to be worthwhile. They might even form partnerships with their rivals helping them to deploy hardware with economies of scale.

[jimmothy]

less FUD please

OK, Friedcat hasn't said anything about next gen because the Silicon Elves have sworn him to secrecy. They don't want anyone to know about their magicsparkle ultra-hasher until it's ready to ship. Microchip Santa is particular like that.

The balance sheet from October actually had typos in it, shareholder's equity is 0.05854BTC a share, not 0.005854BTC.

3M is going to be so impressed by Friedcat's cooling solution that they're going to stop selling their own immersion cooling products and start using his to mine Bitcoins, and they're going to use an exchange rate of $130/BTC forever.

And look on the bright side! The company is still worth 88 million USD.

Better?

You honestly think that AM is worth less than 20 million? You are aware that AM has nearly 10 million USD in capital just waiting to be spent on next gen chips. What makes you think FC is going to spend all his time answering the same questions over and over when he literally has no incentive to waste his time like that. AM is not trying to sell more shares, and it is not selling more hardware at the moment until next gen so there is literally no reason FC has to come here and explain how much the company is really worth to pump up the value. It doesn't matter to him how much these short term investors like yourself are selling your shares for.

Unlike every other asic company Friedcat doesn't make up bullshit specs on future hardware. With FC already competing with every other asic manufacturer using 144nm tech so you can easily imagine how much better 40nm and 28nm will be.

I don't know why I waste my time to point out the facts that can easily be found out by looking at FC's post history as it is obvious you are not trying to inform people but create panic.

[Vycid]

less FUD please

OK, Friedcat hasn't said anything about next gen because the Silicon Elves have sworn him to secrecy. They don't want anyone to know about their magicsparkle ultra-hasher until it's ready to ship. Microchip Santa is particular like that.

The balance sheet from October actually had typos in it, shareholder's equity is 0.05854BTC a share, not 0.005854BTC.

3M is going to be so impressed by Friedcat's cooling solution that they're going to stop selling their own immersion cooling products and start using his to mine Bitcoins, and they're going to use an exchange rate of $130/BTC forever.

And look on the bright side! The company is still worth 88 million USD.

Better?

You honestly think that AM is worth less than 20 million?

Nope! 0.1 BTC/share is still more than 20M. And I actually don't know it's only worth ~20-30M, I'm just not enough of a risk-taker (or an optimist, I guess) to go in blindly at these prices.

I don't know why I waste my time to point out the facts that can easily be found out by looking at FC's post history as it is obvious you are not trying to inform people but create panic.

Oh. You're new, I didn't realize. Sorry for the snark.

[jimmothy]

less FUD please

OK, Friedcat hasn't said anything about next gen because the Silicon Elves have sworn him to secrecy. They don't want anyone to know about their magicsparkle ultra-hasher until it's ready to ship. Microchip Santa is particular like that.

The balance sheet from October actually had typos in it, shareholder's equity is 0.05854BTC a share, not 0.005854BTC.

3M is going to be so impressed by Friedcat's cooling solution that they're going to stop selling their own immersion cooling products and start using his to mine Bitcoins, and they're going to use an exchange rate of $130/BTC forever.

And look on the bright side! The company is still worth 88 million USD.

Better?

You honestly think that AM is worth less than 20 million?

Nope! 0.1 BTC/share is still more than 20M.

I don't know why I waste my time to point out the facts that can easily be found out by looking at FC's post history as it is obvious you are not trying to inform people but create panic.

Oh. You're new, I didn't realize. Sorry for the snark.

Good news the FUD is over, you can stop trying to create panic now.

If you are truely thinking the company is worth 0.1/share sell me all your shares now for 0.3. But you wont because you know that it is worth more and the price will triple the second gen2 is released.

Why you think FC would waste his time explaining every detail of his company with people like you is beyond me.